Joining us in the studio today is Sergeant Specialist David Stokes. Thank you for coming on the program. Thank you for inviting me. I am really excited about this. As I tell most of the veterans that come in that we talked to, I don't do any research because I want to know everything about you starting today. So tell me where you grew up, what do you call home, and we'll start there and move on through it. Okay. I was born in Lynchburgh, Okay. Graduated from Mecglass in sixty five, got drafted into the Army in sixty six, so I tell people that was almost my senior trip wow. I was working for Otis Elevator in Roanoke, Okay. I was on the waiting list to start night school for electronics in March. In the meantime, I'd applied and been accepted to go to dan Technical Institute for Machine Shop that started in March, and Uncle Sam got me in February, and I got drafted before of the lottery of a started. Oh wow. I was uh nineteen when I went over to Vietnam. Everybody I would run into was mostly from sixty nine to seventy two. They found out I was sixty six sixty seven. They called me the old man, but yet they were older than me. I was over there most of the time. If the thing about it was you went over as a as a unit. I after my basic training, I was in Fort Hollibrod, Maryland Intelligence School. I got orders halfway through my class to go to Vietnam. And I go down to the headquarters and the captain said, Stokes, you got orders. You're going to Vietnam. And I said, sir, I'm going halfway through my class, Solder, your orders are cut. You are going. You bt to pass. So I went over by myself. I was an individual, and at the time I had orders to go, there was a nationwide airline strike. Friend of a family worked at Andrews. I went up and spent the night with him. He got me connections to finally get to California. I'd never been passed Tennessee. I get there a day early, so I checked into the Army terminal. I wanted to go see what California's like. The guards locked the gate because too many people were going to a walk. So today I'm supposed to arrive in California. My orders were Class A, supposed to fly commercial land in Saigon. I member my Class a's with the first air calf on a maiden flight of a C one. We made three emergency landing on the way to Vietnam. The last one was in Guam. They had the runway foamed up and all of the apparadis out, and I'm thinking, my god, I'm gonna get killed for again to Vietnam. Holy. Instead of landing in Sigon, I landed up country and play coop and Vietnam has two seasons, hot and dry and hot and wet. As soon as we got secured at a tent, I changed into my fatigues. That night after Chav they put us in a deuce and a half and took us down to the runway which was metal planking, and we was in the little guard shack and they had three flights coming in to take us down to Sigon. First two flights came and went fine. Third flight, as it started to come in, we came under a mortar attack and we're standing there. No one had a weapon. We're standing there. You could see the blast go off and you could see silhouettes of the I don't know if it was Viacong of NBA coming over the hill. Well, our plane pulled up. They cut the engine to the inside, left off and running. They dropped the ramp. We go to get on it. It's full of dead bodies. Blood was running down the ramp and we had a big master sergeant, big black guy and the hollering, come on, come on, we're taking fire. He said, We're not riding on those dead people. Come on, we're taking fire. He said, we're not riding on dead people. So they raised the ramp. The plane took off, probably half an hour later. The attacks overwhelmed, so waiting on another plane to come in. He said, men, I want to tell y'all something. When your numbers up and it's time for you to meet Tamaker and the Good Lord has called for you, it's a done deal, he said. But you got all these thousands of bullets flying around. It says to whom it's concerned, that's the ones you got to worry about. Don't take any unnecessary chances. He told me that August of sixty six, and it's as fresh in my mind as if he told me that last night. Now, just to back up a little bit, we've had a few guests come on already, my dad being one of them. And I mentioned to you before that I learned as much about my dad's experience of Vietnam being at the show that I did living with him for eighteen or twenty years before I went out on my own. So I haven't I don't think I've ever talked to anybody that had been drafted. So how did how does that happen? Like you didn't have any intention of going into the military, You get drafted and you told you're going to go. So did you go into like a boot camp before you went to. LA I took basic training at Fort Gordon, Georgia. I graduated from there. I went to Ford Hollabird, Maryland. From my aiit or Advanced Individual Training, and then from there straight to Vietnam. You had no choice whether it was Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine as well. Just said, it's funny you said that I had already passed. You had to go to Ronto at deduction station. I had already passed my physical So my first detailed I'm shopping in pencils for the ones going up had to take the test, and I'm sitting on the front row and the Marine sergeant walks in and he says, men, the Marines are drafting. I want five volunteers one, two, three, four five. I'm in the number six chair. You heard of those five guys out? Wow. The army sergeant come in, he said, Ben, the Marines are drafting this month. If you don't want to go into the Marines, raise your hand. I stood up. Wow. So I tell people I came within an inch on what chair of being in a marine. Wow. And then it was kind of ironic because uh, I was military intelligence and the DMZ, the then lens On was my area specialty, and I stayed with marine and interrogators five miles from the DMZ, off and on for two weeks. So I came close to being a marine. Wow. But so then you so you're now you're over in the army. And the plane when you finally get there where the plane goes? And then now do you have training? Are you ready to do? You said it was intelligence, Yes you were part of So are you gaining intelligens a recon? I was ready. But when we left play coup, we went to Saigon. Another mortar attack the next day. It took us down to ben Wa of Long Bend ninety Replacement Battalion, another mortar attack. They lost my orders, so I got shipped to Cameron Bay for two months unloaded ammunition off of ships. Finally they get my orders. I go back to Long Ben another mortar attack, and then I go into Saigon where that's where I was stationed. Our compound, we were eighteen clicks south of Saigon. They boss us in every morning and brought us back and sometimes it was two weeks before I saw a bed. We'd work twenty hours and they let us sleep on top of a desk for four hours. And that's how it was. We're in Vietnam. Was really not a secure area because it was in was the borderline, you know, war zone. In their country. Yes, exactly, and this is around sixty seven, sixty six, sixty six, so you're really early in the Vietnam So intelligence you're probably were critical to that whole mission of trying to learn is that what is that? What your Yes, we were originally our headquarters was in on Thompson New, big sprawling airbase. We were cramped in a little two story building and one day the colonel walked out and the phantom Jests were parked in hangers right beside our building, and the colonel walked out and the land instruct almost hit him. After that, they built us a brand new facility that was air conditioned right across from third Hospital, third Field Hospital, right adjacent to the AUV in High Command. So we were safe on that part. And our son of was combined intelligence and the Vietnam We had Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and the Vietnamese counterparts well. As a courtesy, and most of the Vietnamese were either upper echelon, enlisted or officed, so as a courtesy, the government dave their wives got them to come in to do janitorial work. Well, when you entered the compound, you had a badge you had to show to get onto the facility. Then once you got inside the building, you turned that one in and they gave you a picture badge that you had to wear at all times. Well, they found out when you went into the facility, the government had to hire the civilian police to frips the women coming out because some of them were trying to steal classified papers to give to the BC and their husbands were working alongside of us. Wow, so you really you couldn't you couldn't trust anybody because one we were round eyes. Bid to me, you can tell if they were friendly or not because now looking like yeah, so. I mean, do you do you feel like you know what you're doing when you're there, like you've been trained enough to be doing your job? Well? Yes? Uh. My title was uh. I was an area hand List Order of Battle Specialist, and I had a situation map and everything on it was confidential. And I had this overlay but updated daily, weekly and monthly. It's called spaws Special Agent Reports. And I evaluated the agents and they were operating under the auspices of the CIA, okay, And I made contacts and good friends with the CIA. So anyway they would send you a say, for instance, Fred, I would get a report from Fred, I'd get his coordinates, I'd put it on the map, and over a period of time you could see his operating area. And so I'm inend that one day and we gave briefings all the time. I called it the Dog and Pony Show. And we was in there one day and colonels came by and they said, soldier, what is that right now? And I said that special Agent reports, sir, Okay. So gave him my briefing on it. They left. Captain Salmon came up and he said, stop, you got to change your map And I said for what. You got to change it from confidential to secret? And I said, okay, why you're not supposed to be smart enough to figure out the spies and the agents. I said, okay, so I changed my map the secret. Well, I had to evaluate the agents and going back. If I saw that Fred six weeks ago, same location, same information, he send it in to get paid, Well, I tell my friends over with the CIA. Next thing you know, there's no more Fred. Well, don't ask, don't tell. I don't know if they got rid of it or what they did to him. The next thing I know is Joe. And then it's kind of strange because I was nineteen to turn twenty. I took my job serious because I had troops on the ground depending on good intail. And when I've gone to schools, I've been asked about it. First question the elementary kid will ask did you kill anybody? And I said that's a no in yes answer, and they get this bewildered look, and I said, okay, did I take the rifle pointed at the enemy and pulled the trigger. The answers, no, I said, but because of evil bombardment, ground artillery and the jets, I was responsible probably tens of thousands of the NBA being killed. As you know, American casualties were a little over fifty eight thousand. It is estimated that between the Vigcong and then off at the Mees they lost two point five million. Wow. Lord, and they would never admit to that, but that's what we derived on casualt accounts. All right, So how long were you doing this particular thing? I did that until three days prior to me rotating back home. Okay, I had not gotten a replacement, and they said, were you going to You can do a thirty you can extend for thirty days. You'll not sixty days off of your enlistment. I told them, one year's enough. I'm getting there. Well, we can put we can slap an admin hold on you. I said, what do you mean? He said, we can extend you for thirty days. If you haven't got a replacement, another thirty days, we can do that. Finally, I had two days left and I had a replacement come in and I grabbed him and I hugged him. I felt bad because he did not have time to train him. I had to clear the clear post from there and had to go back to the compound to clear to make my flight out. And it was funny because when I arrived in country to replacement Battalion, we were in tents, and when I got back eleven months, almost twelve months later, they had two story barracks like you had in basic training. The one short time was that were going home. We were still intents, but they were double walled with sandbags. And so the night that I finally got to go out, we're on three flights and we go over to the airport and the first two planes come and go. That flight didn't come in, so they busted us back over another day to sweat it. The next night. You would think because we missed that flight, they would put us on the first flight. Sure, No, we're on the third flight. First two flights come and go. Fine, we look up in the sky, we see the landing lights. A heart start pounding. This is it. Here's our freedom flight back home. Guess what. The plane touched the runway. Mortar attack. He pulled up and he left skid marks with sparks flying all the way down the runway. So I told people I arrived in Vietnam with a bang, and I left Vietnam with a bang. So I survived five mortar attacks, got shot at once on guard duty, but I had an angel looking over top of me because I did not get wounded. Didn't have to. No thing ain't back safe and sound. Now there's a question we haven't discussed with anybody yet, and you're there, how do you communicate to anyone back at home? I mean in lines, aren't I don't know if that's prevalence. So is it just letters? Is that letters? Uh? And when you send a letter, it might take a week for it to get from from there to home and then from home and back. And that was the only way. Now you could go down to the USO, and they had kind of like ham radios. But uh, there's quite a bit of difference. When you're over there, you're a day ahead of back here in the States. And so there was ways, you know, no use trying to do that. But one thing that was kind of strange, and I'll tell you about it. We had I was in when they had me Ted TD Wine Cameron Bay unload ammunition. I was there when the Korean White Horse Infantry Division landed. They did god dauty for the same missile sites up in the mountains. And the American we never could understand the VC. We called them, Charlie. If you went by the American compound, you had these shipping connectes with slots cutting them, sandbagged inside and out, guard towels, floodlights, constantina wire, bob wire gates and everything. This was the American compound. You go by the Korean compound that looked like an old hitching post. No nothing, there was a white line. There was a VC with ice tongs sucking his head hanging over top of it. Charlie, did not mess with the Koreans. Wow. The first mistake they did. They attacked the Koreans. They run into the village, hid the weapons. You couldn't tell if they were friendly or not. You know, the Americans we got slammed by the news met with the Medli massacre. Okay, the Koreans when they went into a village, they killed every man, woman and child and burned it to the ground. And they would not stop till they got a three to one kill ratio. Well, the United States government says, it's no way possible, no way. They would cut the left ear off of the VC and put them on a piece of raw hide, and they would throw them down on the desk and it looked like pork rides. Finally they con the Americans were convinced, Okay, don't bring any more ears than here. We want your word for it. Tally after that, John, and never messed with your Koreans. Yeah, good lord. So while you were there, what kind of is it breakthroughs that you're getting, Because, like you said, you're starting and you're trying to figure out who's friendly and who's not. And do you start building a rapport and you start getting some consistent, consistent. Consistent one you relied on intel from your other units. If we got in a report. I'll give you an example. I had a report of the Russian B one rocket off the on the ben Lynn Province, which was right across the ben High rubb and separating the two countries north and south. As soon as I posted that, my lieutenant, second Lieutenant Nash if you ever watched Beatle Bailey, Lieutenant Fuss, he was to post the boar for that. He had gone through in c O school he was E five, then he went OCS. He was my second lieutenant. As soon as we got posted about the one forty rockets, he and I had to go down to the MCV headquarters and we had to brief General Westmoreland. And wow, the lowest ranking person there was probably a full bird colonel. I walked in that room and I've never seen as many stars, and I mean stars, one, two, three, four star general while in there and I'm at holding the out trying to point, yeah, I'm scared to death, shaking like a leaf. And he's got his squeaky voice he's trying to say about the one forty rockets. It took twenty minutes to get from MACV from MACV headquarters back to our unit. When we got there, we had orders cut to go with the Marines into the DMZ on interrogation mission. So I get my gear, we go up, we get a flight to dogh third Marine Division headquarters, and we are staying with the Marine interrogators. Well, somewhere along the way the Marines misplaced their orders so they would not take responsibility of us going into the DMZ. Thank god for that. So anyway, we stayed with interrogators off known for about a week. They brought in They would not let us set in on the interrogators, even though they were in the hoops right behind us. But I'll give you for instance, they brought in five NVA captured Christmas and three marine and the interrogators told us that they worked on the marines. The NVA they had mine of cashness. Anyway, one of the Marines died on the operating table, and this one North Vietnam. His officer sat there with a cheesy grin. He said, okay, we patched them up, we fed them, we gave them cigarettes. We put them over into the compound. The next morning they brought all five of them out and he walked up to the lieutenant and he said talk, and he started giving that cheesy grin. All right, you were the one that left was laughing. One that marine died on the operating table. Now I've not told many people this. He said. We took detondate accords and we wrapped it around each one of their necks. I walked back up to that lieutenant, I pointed my finger at him and I said talk. And about the time he's tried to de grin Pam. His head went one way, his body went to the other. He said, we had to take a baseball bat and beat the evil Ford to shut them up. Wow. Now, had the news media got ahold of that, that would have been an end of it. Because I told people, if you were in Vietnam and you were in a combat situation every evening we were in your living room with Walter Cronkite, Yes, And if you were in a combat situation with a reporter and a newsman, you had to put yourself in harm's way to try to protect those two. So they can tell you all of the negative stuff that took place. As you know, now, good news doesn't sell. It's always the bad news, the negative news. The news media lost the war for us. Ho Chi Minh. Everybody thought Ho Chi Minh was pulling the strings. He was a puppet figure. General Gap. He was head of the notorious three three two four B Division, the most of the tourist division in North Vietnam, and he was the one calling the shots. And he realized that they don't have to do anything. The news media and the public back home is going to end the war. They were ready to declare a truce, and had the president continued with the bombing of Haifong Harbor and Hanoi, it would have been a different outcome to the war. But because of the news media back in the United States, we lost the war. And as matter of fact, Vietnam veterans, we never lost a battle. Congress and the public lost the war for us, no doubt. So how long you were there for about a year? Yes, and then you come back. I came done with your service at that point I came back. I went to Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Okay. The rest of my class from Fort Hollibird stayed at Fort Bragg the whole time, complaining about the living conditions. Lord, I told them, I said, look, you don't have a clue. And I've gone to schools and I tell people, especially elementary kids, I said, when you were eating a meal at your house or your grandparents, did they ever give you any food that you really didn't like? You know? The kids shaking their hiss. I said, I was the same way. My mama would tell me, you know, that kid's overseas starving that would love to have that. And I said, Mama, can't you mail it to them? He said, well, you can't do that. Well, they told you the truth, because when we stayed with interrogators up at dog Hob, there was two sergeants and one of them he kept wanting to go on control and go on recon, and the other one says, no, you're too valuable. I can't risk you going oattel. So the second week we were up there, we're sitting there and at five o'clock you had a choice. You could go to the mess tent and eat up slop, or you could get a hot shower. The only time I got a hot shower in Vietnam was five miles from the DMZ with the Marines, so we would eat sea rations packed in nineteen forty five or forty six. Oh my god. So anyway, he's bugging the sergeant. He said, why don't you get the trash together and take stoaks and go to the dump. His expression changed drastically. Come on, come on us the dump. He said. Yeah. We put all of our unopened cans in one box, took the trash in the oven, We got in the jeep. We go down on a dirt road. If you've ever grown up on a farm and had pigs, you called it slopping the hall. Yeah. They would take a deuce and a half and have fifty five gallon drums and it would go down to the end of his car de sack and they would turn around and they would dump it out, and the truck was right in front of us. Well, we're going down the road in this garbage dump. These heads start popping up. The Vietnamese are living in the garbage dump. They would take boxes and ten in wood oven. They had a little holes dug out and they would wait for the truck to go down there to dump the slop, and they're standing under fighting for it. Well, the deuce and a half they dropped their stuff and they turned around and went back there. So we pulled up and turned around and he handed me a baseball bet and I said, what's the bat for. He said, hold on to it. You're gonna need it. So he would take a can and he would hold it up like this. And you've seen these apocalypse movies the zombies. These people started coming at you and they got this crazed look and he would toss it up and they would fight over it. He said, Stokes, when you get too close to you start swinging. If you don't hit them, they're gonna let her kill you. This food and I couldn't believe it. Well it was true, and we had people coming up and I never will forget that was this I reckon. She was an elderly woman. She had that craze look and the eyes like this, and she's grabbing at me like that, and he said, stops Hill. If you don't, they're going to kill you. I hit her between the eyes. Her eyes rolled around, it never faced, her kept coming at me. And it was maybe fifty of them. And we at the time, we've swung that bat until you could not swing it anymore. He jumped in the jeep and we go back to the cock pan. We get back to the hoots, and I'm in shock. And the other sergeant laughed. He said, how was your experience at the dump? And I'm just taking my head in disbelief. He said, I call that physical therapy. Said he'll be good for another month. That's how you got it out of his system. But you know they would have literally killed you for whatever they had there. Wow, did you ever get in did you ever have any liberty? Did you ever get any time? A time away? From the Central Intelligence. Once in a while we would get an afternoon off and we would go to Sigon, and they told us, when you go to Sigon, the national bell was bombie bar. They said, do not drink bombie bar. It's got for mail to hide in it. So we figured, hey, you already pickled, and you could go ball hopping and you could get plastered. You could stop, get a coke, sip on it. Twenty minutes later you just thrown sober. You could start all over again. Oh wow, yeah, and then you know you've heard they'll saying winning Rome do as the Roman. Well, on the street vendors, they had these little carts I called them to have with Johnson's. You could get a bowl of steam rice and a raw fish head. Well, I'd get the rice, I give a fish head to the kids. I'm not gonna eat raw fish head. But a lot of times we had been a ball and some of the girl ball girls would go out and bring something in, and I said, what is that? Okay, so I'd give them the equivalent of twenty cents worth, called twenty peas. That girl can't bring something in. I think one time, I think it was monkey nuts. I'm got sure. I think that's what should try. The thing. Other times they had something. It was on a clear broth. It had some weeds and onions, and it looked like a piece of white bologney, and it's about the thickness of a piece of white BLOGONEA. Well, you know, I'm plastered. I'm eating. I don't know what it was. I think she told me it was raw fish gut. I don't know. Oh my goodness, I didn't try anything went in Rome do was the Romans? All right? So when you get back home, you at Fort Bragg? How long are you there before you're out? I got back. I had fourteen days liberty at home, and when I went to Fort Bragg, I had not quite six months. The problem I had was before I left Vietnam, I had paper after paper after paper. I could not disclose what I did because of my clearance. Yeah, so I couldn't even tell my parents that. So when you came home, I know, my first weekend back, that was a roadhouse right across from the airport called Dicky's Place. So my first weekend back, I go there and people came up to me and grabbed me and hugged me, where have you been. We haven't seen you forever. Well, as I got back from Vietnam, poor, no kidding, they spaced out like you were contagious. Nobody wanted to hear about it. So I had a double flam in one. I couldn't tell the family what I did. When I did get out of the service. You did one of two things. You took your uniform off. You either threw it in the back of the closet or you threw it away. And that's the way it was. Nobody wanted to hear bird Vietnam. Now they realized that we did make go with it. Matter of fact, a couple of years ago, we got invited to go to with the Exchange Club, go up to d C at the wall, and while there I was standing looking at the wall and the Vietnamese came up to me and he said, were you in Vietnam? And I said yes. He said when I said August sixty six to August sixty seven, he said, so was I I said, oh, he said, but I was on the other side. There was a North Vietnamese. Wow, so we reached out and shook hands. No kidding, Yeah, So anyway, it was kind of strange. Here you are two people against each other and we're there at the wall in d C. And we shook hands, and so I said, you know, that's pretty cool. But anyway, we finished up there. We got a FBI escort going you know, have traffic bed in ninety five had We were running eighty five going down ninety five and we went to Quantico and the general stayed oval waiting for us to get there, and he said, men, I want to tell y'all something. Y'all's efforts in Vietnam was not in vain. Y'all were the first generation of soldiers to go up against guerrilla warfare. And he said, y'all have y'all's legacy is making a difference because what y'all went through and what y'all experience, it's being taught in all of the military installations now. So he said, you can hold your head up high and be proud of it. That is y'all's legacy. Wow, as well as the wall as our legacy. Now, your description of people just van mousing when you told them you were in Vietnam, you know, reading your bio, and I appreciate it for you answering the question that you have and in that kind of thing. But I noticed you were very involved with Vietnam veteran efforts in the community and that type of thing. Is that why you're so active in that as. Well, not only the Vietnam veterans, but all that all of the veterans organizations except the Marine Corps eg in Purple Heart didn't qualify Purple Heart, Thank goodness for that. I'm a mom of all of the organizations there, plus going to the VA in Salem. Uh if I sign in and I'm the only one representing report back to each of each of the organizations, what's going on, what's coming down, and so forth. So yeah, you would say I'm a veterans advocate. Yeah, yeah, very good. And it was so needed. I mean there was like there was a time where it was a gap. But it seems like it's rebuilt. The patriotism the people that respect, like Brian and I, what you did in Vietnam is unbelievable. Yeah, it's it seems like it built back up. But it's a lot of it's from your all efforts through these organizations. Exactly that there's one thing one made a difference when we were at at the Vietnam Veterans wall. Young kids were coming up and they were shaking your hand and thanking you for the service. And when we left there, we went over to Arlington, and Steve and I had the aunt of place in the reef, a tomb of the unknowns. Well, we had a World War two veteran on our bus, and everybody else on the bus won World War two, one Korean and the rest Vietnam veterans. We were going down the sidewalk toward the main gate at Arlington, these teenagers coming up. You even stopped and stood steel or you stepped there in the street, they'd walked right by you, no respect. World War II veteran. He walked with a kinge. He said, if they knocked me down, I'm going to hit them. I said, well, you might as well get ready because they're gonna ignore you. And the same is true here in Lynchburg. Now, Inchburg is very veteran friendly. Yeah, yeah, I'm praud to say that, but there's still one group of people from Lynchburg that will ignore Vietnam veterans. And that's my age group. Once they graduated in sixty five, they I don't know if they still hold a grudge against it, yeah, or what it is, but they will not come to terms. You know. You say that, and I know it's getting out of what your purview is. But we discussed this a lot. It's the same people that still protest everything. You know, they just are not patriots. I don't know what it is. I don't know what happened, but yeah, you're talking about protests. Yeah. I'm on the Virginia State Council and i'm also saw than at Arms for Virginia State Council and Publicity chairman. I got an invitation from the Army. They wanted first Come, First serve twenty five Vietnam veterers to be up on the stage on the fourteenth for the Giant Parade. Oh yeah, yeah. And I didn't go for three reasons. One, you had to be at the Pentagon early that morning. They was bus you down to be on the parade podium to watch the parade. Second reason I didn't want to go. Well, first reason was the traffic. Second reason, understand there's going to be multiple protests everywhere. I didn't want to get involved in the protest. And when I got the National dr Veteran of Year Award, in DC in twenty nineteen, it was eighty dollars then to park your car in the hotel parking lot. So if I had gone up, I'd have had to spend the night. Hotels are not cheap in DC, and I can imagine what the parking would be now, So I declined to go. We've got State Council coming up the end of this month, and I'm curious to find her how many took the government offer up on it to be on the on the platform. That's interesting. Uh, you're listening to Life, Liberty, Happiness. We're talking to Sergeant Specialist David Stokes before we let you go, because we think you've spending the time with us today. We always end their segment with a question of if you could any doesn't matter, any time in history. Uh, any individual, dead or alive, who would you pick to spend a whole day with and where would you spend with them? Wow? Only one person? Yep, you get one? Only one? Well, I'm uh, I'm a I taught a mom of his sons of an American revolution, So I reckon I would like to spend a day with some of my ancestors that thought that fought in the American Revolution. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's comparing then plus now. Yeah, you know, that's amazing how things have changed. Oh yeah, that would be a very interesting conversation. Yeah. Well, appreciate you taking your time out of your day to spend with us. We uh, we love doing this segment and we learned so much. I know I speak for Emma and Trent, but it's thank you again for your service. We we support all veterans and thanks for joining us today. It was my pleasure. Thank you for inviting me here.
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