Interview with Vince Everett Ellison

We are going to bring on our special guests this week. Today's guest is Vince Everett Ellison. Welcome to the program. I'm so happy to be with you too, handsome gentlemen night. Thank you for inviting me. First of all, people have videos, so they know that's not true. He didn't prove the screen by coming on. But for those who don't know, you do your podcast, Yes I do. Man, it's great here. I mean, it's just it's it's it's a family affairs, a beautiful places. It's just you know, the black and I heard you talking about the Blue Ridge Mountains up here. Yeah, it's just it's magical. Yeah, everybody that comes here, they look at it and they're amazed. I remember when I was on Talker Carlson. Talker asked me where I live. I told my live in AMers County and he said, I know that place. I said, how do you know Amer's County, Tucker? He said, my daughter goes to Uva and every time I come to visitor, I go trout fishing there. He said, it's the most beautiful place in the world. He said, why do you live, Vince? I said, I don't leave until you called me Tuckers. I'd be home right now if it wasn't. I said, yeah, man, I came down. I saw it. They're gonna bury me there. It's just the most beautiful place in the world up there in the blue ridgemonds of Lynchburg, Virgenia, Rowanoke. That area is just beautiful. Yeah. And he's up in Maine, right, you want to. Tucker Tucker's other man. I when I went to see him first time, we were down in Boca. So you know, Tucker, Tucker's blue blood. He got a lot of money, right, So he's got a winter house in Boca, in the summer house in Maine. So I said, man, you got it made. So at that time I was down in Bocha. But I've been I've been on his show in person twice, and I've been on the show many times, you know, podcasting and whatnot. So, but he's he's he's an excellent young man. He's an excellent gentleman. I really enjoyed, Well, I'll tell you what I watch. I've probably seen on X probably eighty percent of his interviews, which are fantastic because I love their long form and there is no holding back. And he's so talented at letting the person speak. You're the first person that I have ever You're the only person that I have seen in his interviews where he's had to take a break to go use the bathroom. That is true. He literally got up to go use the bathroom. I've never seen that before. I was. I was there. We got we we I came in that night. We did the thing that that morning, and we were just talking, talking, talk to me, and Tuck was cutting for we. Y'all saw it, and I'm thinking they were going to cut it up, you know, because I was there talking for three hours. And when I got in the cab to go to the airport, the lady said, well, they must have liked you because I've been out here waiting. Usually they're out in an hour and a half, but I've been waiting for you. I said, oh, you know. So they called me the next week and said, hey, the interview is coming out today. So I turned it on and I saw two hours and fifty seven minutes. That's all, no train wrap, nobody. Most have listened me for three hours. It was riveting. Yeah, And so I was I was so concerned that man. So anyway, I did not watch it until eleven o'clock that night. It's a true story show. I said, let me see the damage. You know, everybody's calling me said it was great, but you know people are gonna say that, right, So I said, oh, let me watch this thing. It's about eleven o'clock that night. Tucker cost me and I look at my phone. I said this Tucker, and I thinked, hey, Tucker's going He said, hey, Vance. He said, look, man, me and myself are here together, and we decided to call you and tell you this. He said. I've done interviews with people all over the world, he said, and we agreed that this was my third one of my top three interviews. Of all time. Wow. Wow, And I was blown away. And his staff said, can't talk. Him says, best interview of all time. And I watched it, and the thing that really intrigued me was the stories I was telling. And my life was just the American life, yes, and many people had just not heard it in so long. They had been bought up into my new shot. You're like you. We were talking about white privilege, right, and we talked about all of us grew up poor, and it's no black privileges, just go out there and you got to earn it. And when you tell people these stories that I grew up in the South and no, I didn't have to run from the klan, and know my white neighbors didn't hate me, and know me and my white friends got along at school, and it was it was real. It was an idyllic upbringing. Tucker said, what yeah, I said, I'm just telling you talking. It wasn't what people say. I loved growing up in the South around my neighbors. I didn't have any problems with anybody. Everything was fine. And he said, Vince, you're educating a lot of people. I said, I'm just telling you about my life, and it was. It was great growing up in Bronsville, Tennessee. Well see, it's one of those things like I used to watch all the presidential debates and I like the not necessarily that I like when they're running for president, when it's the Republicans and the Democrats. When when they're running the primaries primary especially when you've got you know, ten or twelve of them, they're like you just that's when you get to kind of see the real person come out. Is later on they're more polished in a presidential debate and most of that stuff. But it wasn't until to be honest with you, For me, you kind of look at the candidates, you hear their answers. But when Herman Kane was running, he started you kind of got to know who the person was and how he grew up and where he came from. And that's when I started researching the candidate more than just listening to them. Right. Of course, the smartphone came along and you could google these this stuff. But when I heard Herman Kane's story, that's what attracted me to him more so than his policies at the time, was I understood more about him. And so that's why today I want to know more about you and your upbringing, because that's the stuff where you got to you kind of get to really know the person. Yes, like you know, to this day, I still who was Barack Obama? Did he come from? I don't know anything about him? Yeah, how could you become president and us not know? Like Trump? We know pretty much. You know everything about him or any candidate. Vince, I knew who you were. And I've been doing this show with Brian, He's been doing this for five years. I've been with maybe four little listen for and I'm walking into the doorway and you walk out, and it took me three steps in here to realize that's Vince. I had no idea you were in Lynchburg. I had no idea that I seen you nationally for and I followed you along and I was like wow. So when Brian told me you were coming on, I mean I got chills. I was like, this is this is awesome. Can't wait to find out more about you. Well, it is my pleasure to being around here with my neighbors and with my friends, and the people here are just so nice. And I explained to people it's the area, but it's also the people here. I mean, I understand the people. You tell them, I live in the Blue Ridge Mounds of Virginia. The men up here am in. I ain't got to worry about guys walking around in high heeled shoes and pink panties around in this area. These guys are going to judge you by your manager. They don't care anything about your race, they don't care anything about your nationality. They're going to judge you by your manhood. And if you're a man and you keep your word and you're a good man, you're fine. But if you're up here complaining and begging and you're a liar and you're performed that, I don't have any time for you. And I understand men like this, to understand people like this, So people up in New York City and Boston, that would drive me crazy because you don't know what the hell's going on up it's all over the place. And growing up in Brownsville, it was that binary way of living life. Man. I was born on a cotton plantation Heywood County, Tennessee. My dad was a sharecropper. The only thing that kept me being born at the lord's wrong of society was the fact that I had a father. But it wasn't strange because most of the people in the Mississippi Delta at that time were poor. I mean, the white people were poor, the black people were poor, and this is what it was. But my father bought us out of poverty by working an insurance industry. My upbring was interesting because you just had had people, and you had rich white folks, poor black white folks, black people that did well, black people that didn't do well. So the color thing wasn't the issue. The richest man that lived in my county was a black man. His name was Al Raws. Everybody knew our Raws. He owned a funeral home and he owned an insurance company. And Al Ross was so rich that he would have giveaways every Christmas, giving away washing machines and refrigerators and money, and they called it Al Ross's turnout. He just give stuff away. He was very wealthy. Well, my father needed a job, but he got a job working for Al Ross's insurance company, collecting money. Back in those days, poor whites and poor blacks did not have checking accounts, so you had to go pick up the money on the insurance route they called the debit route. And they gave my father this big old book with the names of the people he had to go pick up money from. And so monthly he would go buy that house, knock on the door insurance man. They'd give him whatever it was two three dollars for the premium. He'd give him a receipt, write them down in the book, and turn all the money into mister Ross at the end of the week. From there, my father learned the insurance business. So he learned to sell insurance. He'd opened up his own insurance agency after that, and he started making money. And that's how he brought us out of poverty. Dad started and he bought us out. We got our first home in nineteen seventy two. He bought it FHA home car Porch, Central ayer Man. We thought we had moved into the Tajba home. He lives at home still today, fifty years later. Had paid it off. He's still there, won't move and we man, you know what, with all the nice houses we got, if you try to take that house for me and my brothers and sisters, you're gonna have a war. That's the one. We love going home. We love going to that house. We have nothing but fond memories there. So my dad was has always loved gospel music. He's just singing qua texts, you know, when he was younger. So he was so thankful that it was eight of us so we would like the Parchers family. He decided to get a gospel singing group. He taught us to play the instruments in singing three point harmony. We went around the South playing gospel music. Man, we got three albums and forty fives. If you want to look at that, look up the Ellison family were on YouTube. We're own there. So for years we went around saying gospel music. And I went to the University of Memphis it was Memphis State at the time. Played football. There After college, I started working in the prison in South Carolina. I thought we had overcome Memphis. Wasn't the Memphis that it is now? Oh great, Yeah, it just wasn't that. The crime and the murder, it just wasn't that. So I was under the influence that we had all overcome. The civil rights movement had done what it was supposed to do. Everybody was happy. Then when I started working in that prison, it was in the nineties doing the Clinton Biden crime bill, and they were locking up all these black men. And before nineteen ninety, South Carolina had three prisons in it before, but after nineteen ninety it had over thirty five prisons. Good lord, that Biden Clinton crime It was like a forty billion dollar crime bill. If you can remember, one hundred police officers, one hundred thousand police officers and prisons, that's what it built. And I was looking at these young black boys going to jail and they were all about my age. I was about twenty seven twenty eight years old at that time, and I'm asking the question, why did all this young black men go in to prison? What's going on here? And of course the black intelligencia had told me, oh, evil, rich white Republicans hate black people. I was very naive and I'm like, oh, really, well, I'm going to I resigned my post went down there to stop this. And when I went down into the ghettos, I saw something very very interesting. I saw no evil, rich white Republicans anywhere down there. You see a leprechaon or unicorn before you saw a rich white Republican down in those areas. What I did see was three entities making a lot of money off of the chaos. And they were most black preachers, most black politicians, and most black civil rights workers. Wow. And I called their crew in the Iron Triangle. I wrote my first book about the Iron Triangle. Book authority gave that book number sixty one of the greatest political books ever written in the history of the world. Wow. I self published it. They said that the odds of a book self published book selling ten thousand copies were the same odds of getting struck by lightning and bit by a shock at the same time. My book has sold tens of thousands of copies. Tens of thousands, almost fifty thousand copies. Wow, And it shocked the hell out of everybody, and it got Simon and Schuster calling. So my next two books were done with Simon and Schuster, twenty five Lives Criming and now The End of Tolerance. And so I started writing these books, but they were always from this conservative point of view, this Christian point of view. And it's a point of view that is unbreakable because when somebody talks to me about white supremacy or black inferiority or systemic racism or something like that, I said, look, nobody can be superior to me. Why because out in there of Jesus Christ, and I'm a child of God, it's nobody infear to me. God gives us all gifts. And I don't believe in equal outcomes. I believe in equal opportunity. You know why, because I'm kind of selfish, and I know that if you have a gift and I give you the opportunity and you find your gift and you do it well, I benefit from it. So if I go out to dinner and your gift is to be a cook and you found it. I'm gonna get a good meal. If my car breaks down and I need a good transmission, guy, next your gift. I'm gonna get a good transmission. If I am sick and you're a good doctor, I benefit. You're gonna benefit from each other. You're not gonna ask the shift to make change the transmission. There you go. It's you got talent and we all benefit from that. So we want equal opportunity in America so that person can find what they're good at. And God has given us all these gifts, yes, and we want to make sure you get that. So when somebody. Starts talking about white privilege, I said privilege. It is a privilege to be white, but it's also a privilegy to be black. Sure, it's a privilege to be Asian. It's a privilege to be Hispanic. It's a privilege to be a Christian. It's a privilegy to being an American. When I try to go back into history talking about we need reparations, I said, man, you need reparations. You go to Antietam, you go to Vicksburg, you go to Gettysburg where those boys died to free you without your knowledge, your participation, or your permission. It was just a gift. Here it is we died to give it to you. And then after they give it to you got the nerve to come and say, I'm not going to sue you for money. It's an insult to me. I said, no, you get to work, you get busy. And in America, and even if they say, you know, racism, racism, racist racism, this is the cool day. Grod See. Let me tell you something, player. If you believe in racism, which I don't, if a person is racist, it has no power over me because are racist as an idiot, and an idiot cannot control me. So but if you believe that here something for you in capitalism, keep this with you. I don't care how racist you might think that man is. He's not gonna let the color of your skin get in the way of him making a project. No said, if you are his best salesman on that car lot, he's. Gonna keep you. You bring all the brothers in the hood to back card. It's okay, he's gonna keep you all right. Absolutely, he's not gonna kick why because you're black? This sucker make me ten thousand dollars a month. Man, it's not going anywhere. You see the NFL, the whole defense use the African American man, why and people just come up the stadium to see them. Yeah. Cost they're good at what they do, and the owner's going to keep them because they're good. So when you start talking about racism, so you don't understand how capitalism works, people do not get the only thing that matters in capitalism gringing, gringing. So we're trying to we're trying to get educate young people on this. But the one thing I really want to start doing, and I want to because this just bothers me more than anything. I want to start teaching my white American Christian brothers and sisters to stop living in condemnation behind this assault on you, because I've seen it and it bothers me. I've heard some of my younger white friend tells friends tell me that they're almost embarrassed to be white. And I said, don't do that, because it's your fault. You owe this, you bad people. And I said, there's no condemnation in Jesus Christ, none, He's paid it. All all you do is this and say if you need a good teacher, I have to find one. You need a good job, I help you get one. If you need a good doctor, I'll take you to it. If your job, I have to get one. Said. But short of that, I'm not going to live in condemnation for you. I'm not. And if you come and try to take anything from me in mine, I got two things that'll get you off of me. And that's Jesus in my thirty eight. Don't try. Don't live in condemnation for these people. So growing up with seven brothers. Yeah, yeah, seven brothers and sisters, yeap. Where did your passion because I mean when you speak, it's with passion. Where does that come from? Is that it's just looking at the lie? Yeah, my family has done. Everybody in my family's done exceptionally well because my father just all these absolutes in life. You got good and bad people. Race don't matter. Race doesn't matter. You don't have good bad white folks, bad white folks, good black folks, bad black folks. I asked my father this question last time I saw him. It's a question I asked a lot of old African Americans. Now that's a daddy. Growing up in the South did ye have did white folks up do you any harm? You thought about it? He said no. I said no, you said no, He said most of all, I'm done, and he was done abou black folks. It wasn't not my white folk, You're dumb. I asked that my mother in law, she's ninety three years old, same question, Ms. Chaucy, growing up in South Carolina, white people up in the harm? She said no, we help me more than anything. And I as I've asked older black people that very same question, and they might have heard about something happening to somebody else. But when you ask them now, I'm talking about. You now, and you'll find that most much of it is propaganda where they will tell you these things have happened, but when you ask them the question, has it ever happened to you, they'll sit back and say no. It's almost like be being afraid of a rattlesnake. Right, I've never been bitten by one, but propaganda on television tells me that they're evil. So if I see a snake, I'm running right, and the snake is never done anything to me, say looks at me something else? You problem. Still running out the room. But We've been propagandaised to believe it. That's what the media has done with Black white relations here in America. They propagandize us to believe that we hate one another. And when you ask us, has any white never done you any harm? You know, any white, any black person? Know? Then why are we angry at one another? Propaganda? I'm the television telling us that. So I grew up in an area where the propaganda didn't get to me. And then when I come out into the world and I see this lie and even right now, y'all, I walk between these two worlds. That's amazing. It's the black and the white world where I just walked. It's it's it's effortlessly through both. And I see the two sides not talking, but I know both of them so very well. I did the speech in Memphicennancy at World Overcomis Church, ten thousand black people there and Memphicenancy and Martin Luther King Jinn and got killed down the street. Okay, a black Democrat group of people. The pastor asked me to come. He's a conservative, but he doesn't speak a lot of politics from his poor pet sure, but he wanted me to come. And sat in Black History Month in two twenty twenty three, No. Twenty twenty four. I'm sorry, so I want you to talk to my congregation about the Democratic Party. I said you sure? He said yes. I said, woman, call them my name, because I'll do it. He said, I what you call it my name? I called Tuck and Shawn. They talked about I'll be dead in ten minutes off they understand. That said I you'll see. I promise you. I got up there, that started my speech. My father was there, my brothers and sisters were there, just in case they need to run out to the church real quick. I need some help. It's five standing ovations. Wow. Wow. When I stood up there and gave the history of the Democratic Party and I said, they're the party of slavery from eighteen hundred and eighteen sixty, the Party of the Confederacy in eighteen sixty eighteen sixty five, Party of Jim Crow from nineteen eighteen sixty five to nineteen sixty five, another private party of transgenderism, open borders, taking your guns away, putting pawn in schools, drag queens and schools. Then the anted, I said, the Democratic Party is even's organization in the history of the world, the whole church God clapping. Wow. And when I called my friends and told him about it, Tucker and Sean, they said, Okay, we're gonna win this election. Now, he said, because if you said that amongst these people, and they cheered. He said, something has broken in the Democratic Party. Yes, something has happened here that they don't see. And sure enough, Trump got more of the black vote than any president has gotten since the eighteen hundreds. And he got it because we went out there and did the hard work. I didn't ask permission from the GOP anymore because they weren't gonna give it to me. Now you went out there and just started taking it to the people. And the message of conservatism, of Christianity, of telling people your politics or match your religion. I did a documentary called Will You Go to Hell? From Me? And I told Christians voting for the Democratic Party, you're going to be putting your soul in jeopardy because how can you be a Christian believing in Jesus Christ and believe in now I'm an abortion? Baffles me. How can you be a Christian. Believing in Jesus Christ and believe that you can cast straight little boys and call them little girls, give double as sextimies little girls and call them little boys. Allow fittandel across the border as kills over one hundred thousand young people a year, and sex trafficking across the border, and taking your way to your right to keeping their arms, Allowing the minted men to go into the bathroom and watch your wife and your daughter you'urnate, allowing grown men to participate in sports with your children, Allowing them go into the locker room with your daughter and shower I mean, good guy. Allowing drag queens to come into the schools, to. Shake their behinds in your children's faces, to pull the Bible out of the libraries with pawing in. And you're gonna look at me and call yourself a Christian? You know? And you and I confront men with this. Women are emotional. Men are supposed to be logical. He says, You caught up in your feelings because what well, Donald Trump racist? All you want to go on a date with it. I don't give a damn by a man been a racist. I don't care that comes round. It's unprovable. I'm not gonna fall into that trap. So somebody says Trump's racist, they want me to try to defend that he's not a racist. Would saying, and what's your point? Does he make the trains run on time? Is he doing what I hired him to do? Is he closing the border? Well? Yeah, Is he trying to end these wars? Well yeah he is? He lawn taxi? So yeah, yeah, he's doing what I hired him to do. I don't want to go on a date with him. I want the plumber to fix my plumbing. Perfect. I want the guy who's fixing my car to fix my car. If we end up being friends afterwards, that's cool. But showing her that he does a job, I pay him the wage, we shake hands. We're fine. That's what the present's supposed to do. You mentioned your family at the church with you, do you and maybe just step back a little bit. I've heard you mentioned your father, your mother. I haven't. Yeah, yes, my mother down in cancer in twenty twelve. My mother, he had a beautiful singing voice. She was a real star of the group. Was her background back basically, yeah, mam, Mam was a very beautiful woman. Her and dad got married in nineteen sixteen and stayed married until she passed on. He was holding a hand when she passed away. Wow. And my mama was one of those, one of these was a typical Southern mother's emotional loves her children. And my dad was that typical Southern man. Binary get the job done so or it's gonna be hell to pay. And it was an easy way to grow up because you knew the rules. Daddy said, he be his car back by ten o'clock. Yeah. Amen, you have his car. Back before ten o'clock, and that ain't till on one. You might have it back at nine fifty five. Really, that's right, and if not, that's going to be hell to pay. I need the yard mode before five o'clock. I'm gonna be coming home. I want to see my yard mode. The yard be. Your room needs to be clean. I don't want any grace under a bee coming into this house. It was always these binary rules of growing up. You go to church on Sunday mornings unless you know that's it. You go to school every day. It was easy to grow up in that environment. It's not like it is now with gray areas. That's right. And so Dad was that type of guy. He was he was tough but fair, and now he's this lovable old grandfather. I said, what was that guy when I was growing up? Right? But he kept me alive. And that's one of the reasons why my brothers and sisters and I are so are so successful because we look at this world in this real binary way. Even when I do business, it's not too much of a great area. Either you did it or you didn't. Sure, and if you didn't do it, you need to have a good excuse why you didn't do it. And of course we got common sense if there was a good reason for it. But life works better for me like that. And you know, but I but I just learned it from you playing football. So were you the only one in your family that was an athlete or no? Everybody in the family. All my brothers played. And as you know, when you learn in three part harmony and how to play instruments, everything's got to be right. The harmony has to be right. Everybody's playing in the same court with the same beat. It has to go together. This's binary. When you play football, right, you break that huddle. Everybody has their You can't go out and do what. You want to do. It's you do what you're supposed to do. You do your job. And when we understand that, life is so easy. But now when you have this party that says do without wilth, there are no rules. So how do you break it? I mean when you see a city like Detroit or Chicago or Baltimore, Memphis, Yeah, I mean, how do you break that hold? What I found is a being byary. I've said it. The Democratic Party is an evil institution. People say, evens, aren't you going to do far? No? No, Now it's Republican Party, good, Democrat bad? I said. I say the Democrats are bad, Republicans are neutral. The Democratic Party really wants. The Republican Party says, if you rise your eyes, if you do well, you do well. We're not going to stop you ain't gonna have you too much. But the Democrats say, we have a vested interest in making. Sure that you fail. That's an amen. Yes, we want. You have to stay poor for us to do well. You can't have a good educational system, you can't have an economic system. You have to stay afraid. We got to have drugs on the street because they're the ones that give us money for our campaigns. You have to have the unions, the teachers unions, and so because they give us money. So the Democrats have this. It's almost like a plantations plantation system plan. We can't educate our slaves because if we do, they won't be slaves anymore. We can't teach the Marina right, we can't give them too much hope the God depend on us. And if we keep them that way, y'all, we can keep power forever. So lack the slave master. They have a vested interest in keeping their constituents very, very poor and dependent. The Republicans say, hey man, look, we are going to get out you way, will help you as much as we can, but you're gonna have to go out there and make it on your own now, and if you make it, we're behind you. But we believe you're an American. We believe that the market and the incentives in the market are going to drive you to do great things. And it has worked. I mean, I remember reading about the Homestead Act. What did the Congress do say, hey man, we got this new land from the wolf in Mexico and from Louisiana purchase. You need people settle on it. If you're willing to work for five years, will give one hundred and fifty acres. It's yours. And what happened, people from all over Europe's undercoming to America. They didn't kill the land for them. No, they said it's out there if you want it, you can have it, if you're willing to work. And also they try to they forget that. They gather gave that to the free slaves too. The freedmen had the same option. You can get one hundred and fifty acres of land if you're willing to work it. You can use the land as collateral to get your mule and to get your tools. Go out there, build a life. That was America, that was America. We can't hold your hand and make you do it. All we can do is provide the incentives for you to do it. That's the Republican Party. But the Democratic Party has a vested interest. God, they have appranchice that party. Kamala Harris starts her campaigning an abortioning clinic. That's true, have a vested interest in killing people. They have a vested interest in this Lgbtqia thing. And when we look at it, we know these children of dining up, these young men are dinabaides. We know that they're not having children. We know that right now America is in a death spiral cut of not having any babies the family have, but that'st in interest and make sure the family is destroyed. If you leave your husband, we'll give you a section eight. We'll give you a wick if you got a baby, and snap if your children are growing up, we give you free medical care. I mean, hell, why stay with him? You know we will, well, well, we'll give everything you need to leave in So now eighty five percent of the divorces of America are caused by who the women. When you speak, first off, the truth, and this is why you have the following. This is why you have the standing ovations. People recognize the truth. Charlie Kirk, that's why his crowds were growing in twelve years that he could have a memorial with seventy thousand people. Beautiful, beautiful me because it's the truth. Right. People attracted you because of the truth. Your family that's watching you on the stage in Memphis. You've got seven brothers and sisters. Do they all think like you? Or is there disagreements? But you just go on in your what's your family's style like that. I had to bring them all over because and and and they'll they'll tell you this. They all voted for Obama the first time, and I went crazy on. I really went crazy on. And they'll tell you about the conflict, but my facts were so specific. And then when they saw him doing it, they said, oh my god, when they saw those rainbow colors on the White House, the ABA fail versus idges, I said, told you, when they saw the type of animosity that he calls in America after Traymon Martin, and how he calls the racist to start fighting each other again. So I told you, when they saw what he did, what he did with Obamacare, that and and and and and then my brother have his own business, so so premiums and insurance just go sky high. So I told you, And they saw who he was. But the thing that really got them was when how he voted on abortion, how he put abortion into Obamacare a borsdn birth control, demanded that every insurance company had to carry it in their premium, put that in there. And then he put sex change operations in Obamacare that we now in the United States of Americas subsidized sex change operations. And when he did that they for say, all of them did a Mayle couple and they all came apologized to me, and all of them turned conservative overnight. My best friend is the exact same way. My best friend voted the first time and went, what in the world. Did we do? What did we do? We got shocked because he lied to everybody. And then when you and then when I showed it to them, and they said, oh my god, because they're Christian and they couldn't and they and they weren't going to vote against their conscious but watching him run, they said, well, you know, he says he believe marriages me one man to one woman. I say, he's lying. Well that's what he said. When they talked about the bortion was above my pay grade, you know, I said, he's lying there. But then he came in and he did it. I said, I told you, and they all understood it then. And now, man, my sisters are rough than I am. I mean goodness, they can't they send me stuff from my podcast. They they tell me, they give me pointers all the time. No events, you call them evil, don't give them no. See, that's what we haven't done. When when Lamaregan came out and said that the Soviet Union was the evil empire. That's when we defeated them. Yes, when Abraham Lincoln came out and said that slavery was evil, that's when we took it down. When Churchill walked out and said that Hitler is evil, we stopped playing the political game and we took this thing and we and we and we made it binary. It becomes good against evil. And so when you look at the Democratic Party, we said, oh, no, it's just you know, they are the loyal opposition. No they're not. These suckers have led thirty million ilegals in this country. Man. They have an army in the U Nyoned States of America, and then they give them sanctuary cities where they can come and they're going to feed them and clothe them and show from until they activate them. And the community that gets hurt the most is the community that lives there, the blessed that black. Community, your black community, whether the housing shortage, the costs exactly. And black people started seeing it and they bring them in there their spaces and you look at this and you see, dude, this is the equivalent of what we did to Nazi Germany during World War Two. Great Hill. They took over all of Europe and he hit Great Britain. Churchill ran him back, and then we came over to Great Britain and went across the English Channel and invaded Europe. We invaded Great Britain. Then when they invaded Europe, Churchill told us come over, I need your help. The Democrats have told these illegals, we need your help. And it's a long game that they played. But they but they're but they're canty. These blue cities and blue states are bleeding citizens. The census counts people, not citizens, and we didn't know that until just recently. Donald Trump suwed them to try to say no citizens, Samen, what says man, The constitution says people. So if they get illegals up there, they get they get congressional districts. And because their cities are bleeding citizens and their citizens are coming down south at Tennessee and gaining congressional district South Carolina game one, I think Texas, game like two or three. I think Florida game two. In California and Illinois and New York are losing those of them. Why they lose them? People are moving because the taxes and the crime. Yes, but then abortion, murder, prison, drug overdoses. People are dying. How do we get these people back? Illegal immigration and they don't only just get congressional seats. If you get congressional seats, you get electoral College seats also, so they can determine the Congress and the presidency. And guys, threaton Brown is the most amazing thing. These illegals have got so much power. They've made the Democrats shut down the government. The most powerful government in the history of the world is shut down because illegal sold the Democrats. U, let's you destry health catch shut government down and the Democrats did it. Brother, This is strange. When you got an alien force that has enough power to shut down the United States government. This is extraordinarily frightening. Yes, and can hold us hostage until we give them trillions of dollars. Gods, we've talked about this before. I think the power that Trump brought when he was the outsider in twenty sixteen, because I think, I mean, maybe y'all saw it different, but when I first saw him on stage, okay, is he is he joking? You know? Is you know? But then I think it was his first six months in office. That's when the light bulb went off in my head. That and this guy's changing more than just you're used to the guy just taking the reins, right, just making a few change guy. Yeah, he has legitimately changed the party that I've always been a part of. Two people who can speak, like you said the truth back to the other side before you and I both know the GOP would have caved to anything. The Democrats ask, absolutely yes, and. They and they were as happy to see Trump go as anybody was when he believe me, a lot of them. Yes, here's the thing now, and this is interesting. This is not just personal for Donald Trump. This is the bible for the Trump family. Trump knows if the Democrats ever get power again, they're coming out the baron, They're coming out to his children. They're coming after his grandchildren. This is game of thrones. Now, you don't have the game of thrones. When you take power. You killed everybody on the other side, with the children and every choke. Yeah, man, he knows they coming. They are coming because they tried to get him. Y'all saw what was going on. How many ninety five charges on the man, four trials, one at the same time, trying to knock him out, they did everything to defeat Donald Trump, and he won. And Trump comes in and let the Jerry Ward January sixty guys out. He's driving them crazy. But Trump knows this, and this is why he's tearing up the underpendings of the party from the colleges and universities, through the cartails and sell the dope on the streets, and and and and from the Democratic Party through these k Street lobbies up in Washington. He's pulling up the underpendings of the Democratic Party right now because he knows that they get power even when he goes back into these states now. And this was just a master move and started drawing the CONGRECTIONI congressional districts before the census count. I've never seen that before, but it was genius because he knows if they ever get power, the first thing we all know they're gonna do is try to impinch him. We know that that's like they need to lie. They don't care if it doesn't pass in the Senate. They're gonna try to impeach him. And then if he's if he's still alive, they're gonna probably put those charges back over him again, the Jack Smith charges and all of them. They're coming at him again. They're gonna try to push the T James charges by. They're coming again. Trump knows it, and so he's saying, guys, they're still saying about me right now. I got about three little over three more years ago. We got about three years to pull these guys up because they came at me. They're gonna come at my family, and they're gonna come in people like me and you. Yes, and they have their army here they want to activate it. And I'm telling you, the biggest mistake we make is believe that these people are not as evil as they are. What was it, the biggest trick the devil ever played, Pull Pull pull on man Capal and make us believe he no longer existed. We don't believe these people are that evil. It's gonna be Hitler and the Night of the Long Knives again. If they ever get powered. They're coming at. Us, I really think. And that's it's funny you mention that, because the whole No King's movement that they've done twice now with these charades that they've been putting out. Often you can tell what the Democrats do by what they say. Your side is doing and they literally, if they can gain power, you're going to find out what a king is you thought Biden was before. They're going to say, well, we just experienced that king. Watch us be kings, and you're going to see that. They're going to act like, hey, that we've been telling you that that's the way it's been, So we're going to do that. It'll be worse than ever. Yes, So how do you get Mandani? How does that take off? On their side? I'm gonna give Mandanni money because he's going to be the best foil we ever had. We want him to win. So people are gonna look at this and just to destroy it. So crazy they are, how insane they have gotten that this is no longer with the Democratic Party of Johnny F. Kennedy. This is a Marxist party. You know, it started after the Civil rights movement. They try to take it on in nineteen sixty eight, and you remember Daily beat them up down in Chicago. They started screaming, the whole world was watching, the whole world is watching, And Saul Olensky told them you got three choices. Either go and find a whaling walling started crying or started throwing bombs you're gonna turn everybody over to the Republican Party or come back in four years and you beat the delegates. They chose the third and then came back in four years and went to Miami and they took over the party. And it was the first time that the party talked that had abortion on the plank, LGBT kill on the plank, all this crazy stuff. And Richard Nixon destroyed them in that election. Well, they had something they did to mixing what they tried to do to Trump, so put Watergate on it, got Nixon kicked out. Then Jimmy Cardy comes in after Jill Ford. As you know, America still rejected them because then we got in Ronald Reagan. And if George George H. W. Bush hadn't been in sucha pansy, we probably still kept it. We wouldn't have to deal with Bill Clinton. But he came in read my lips, no new ties. Actually they kicked him out. But Reagan was you know, we had we had we had Nick Son, then we had Reagan, and then we had Bush. Clinton comes in George Bush the second everything with Justice went on wrong and his you know, from nine to eleven Katrina to the housing crisis, so we never got a chance to see what he could do. And then when Barack Obama came in, that's when they did it. Patience and they got it. They got what they wanted and Barack Obama slid in there and put in that conservative lgbt Q climate change racism, and the Democratic Party has been on that plank ever since. So what do we do. We have to show them. It's almost like during the Cold War, how do we beat the Russians? Not with moms. We showed the world that our ideals were better. They said what they said that Coca Cola, blue jeans and rock and roll beat the Soviet Union. They would look on TVNC US Americans just having a good time. And we have to show the world again. You guys got ghettos, We have suburbs. You guys have terrible government schools. We have great we have great choice. We have we have charters, we have private schools, and and and and I and I children get a great education. You have you have broken families. We have intact families out here. Yes, you have chaos and you have criminality. We have God and we have order. Young man, which life do you want to live? As a young man in Brownsville, Tennessee, I could watch the TV and understand which life I wanted to live and I and I molded myself to live that life. Yes, we have to show them again that they can have that life in Americas. These young people in these young children want that life. We have to show them again. You tried the Swingers life. You see what it got you. You tried government dependency, You see what it got you. You tried the gang Bang of life and the hip pop life, see what it got you come to this side. So if we do a comparison in contrast, you know, we talked about the American Dream going up, we boys watching it and he said, that's what I want. I want my house, I want my wife, I want my car, I want my children. And we all believe that if you just believed in the process and the process still works. The Pure Research Center said, finish our school. Don't have children tell you over twenty one to get married and work full time. You'll never ever be poured in their state, South America, that's right. The process. We have to start selling them on the process again. These children don't believe the process works for them. We have to tell them it does work. I promise you try it. It's almost like what we said about Jesus. Try Jesus, right, I promise you it'll work. And people like us have to go awad and tell these children again, forget what the game bankers tell you, forget what Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAATP tells you. This process works. It has worked for me, It has worked for my brothers. Graduate high school, go to the military, Go get a trade, yes, go get a job, married before you carry, and you will live a great life in America. And we have to give them these binary tools again. No, you're not. You ain't supposed to be rich before your twenty one. You're not supposed to go out there. Everybody's not going to be a rapper or basketball player. Right. It's not gonna the process, young man, the process. And we need to give them this process and tell them it works, and you'll see it'll change. But we have not been able to give it because the legacy media has been controlling the narrative for far too long. And now with podcasts like Yours and Mine and others, we sell them on the process and sell them on America again. We're selling America again. I think that's what's exciting about the whole sending National Guard troops in to make cities safe. People are actually able to see on TikTok the appreciation that people on the street are living that they never would have gotten by the mainstream media or still won't give about the mainstream so correct, but it gets on fire when you see how many. People talking on Instagram. You see it and you said, we would have never seen it left to the legacy media. I played it last week. It was a guy that was on TikTok and he was just as rough as it could be. In fact, Brian couldn't stand that I brought it up because it was so much cuss on it. But the guy talked about why ends, which I don't any you know what that term. He talked about why ends? Yes, the young in words, and those guys need to be arrested. As what he said, it's just what has to happen. How do we get to those guys which you just mentioned, is that the examples, like you just said, is I mean, what what options do they have? I don't know, it's that whole culture. I don't know how to Brian and I have coached. I had three kids that I used to come down to Bedford to pick up to take to Lynchburg. We would talk about college. We would talk about what they could do with their lives. My son saw where they lived. We were in a white suburb area, but I wanted to see where they lived. So he had some appreciation about what we have for one thing, but he played with them elbow to elbow, sweat to sweat. Two of those kids, one of them has two kids already. Another one has kids, no, no marriage, no wife, no, nothing like that. But the third one did go to college. I don't know how I could have done anything different. What is the difference between the one versus the other two doing the same thing. I don't know what happened. This is why I'm such an advocate for school choice. Yes, I think that you know, we all have some aidge on us. I can remember reading about the times when they started making public education compulsory, and there were a lot of Southerners and a lot of mountain focus that that bought. I don't need no more education than I got. And the sheriffill come and say that boy's going to school. Yeah, why we didn't make it compulsory. Everybody knew that those children's parents couldn't teach them because they weren't educated themselves. So the government came in and said, those children are gonna go to school now, Bob, I don't care how you feel about it. It's the law. He gonna go to school. We're gonna educate him. Now. This boy is gonna have him. He's gonna learn to read and write and count and science because we got plans for him right now. The ghettos are the same way. These parents are so dysfunctional and can't teach these children. Yes, but if you put together a school choice program where you send men like us down there, and we tell this mother with four children by four different men, ma'am, you want a better life for your child, don't you. Yes, I do. We gonna take your boys and educate them. We're gonna teach them how to be men. They're gonna either go to the military, they're gonna have a trade, or they gonna go to college. But they gonna when they grow up, they're gonna be able to take care of you, and they're gonna be long. He's six years old and by the time he's eighteen, we're gonna make a man out of him. Yes, let us happen. It's not the government, we'll do it. That's why they hate school choice because they know that will happen organically. Churches. Men, we'll come and get those boys. Like those boys you talk about. You did your best, but you needed more time with them. We needed to catch them earlier. We need to hold them account It needs to be social pressure, you know, and you don't how boys. Our boys want to look up to someone and want to be proud of. And that's the boy. Hell we screwed up. We was going up and we had to look at daddy, said daddy, I'm sorry. But going to daddy and having sad dadda, i'm sorry showed you wanted your dad's approval when you walk up to them. Okay, what you say, but you went to your dad shamed man. I'm sorry, Bobs, And you knew better than that. Yes, I knew better. I do better. And even if you whooped your behind and punished you, you knew you were wrong and you wanted to make your teammates held you accountable. Your coach held you accountable. And these young men want to be held accountable. But the public educational system does not do it, and they have no motivation to do it. So that's why I'm such an advocate for school choice, because I believe it will open up an opportunity for a lot of good men to open up schools in these inner cities. And when they do it, miracles happened. Y'all heard about what happened down in New Orleans and what's going on in Mississippi right now. Miracles are happening with school choice. Hurricane Katrina came through taught New Orleans. Every school was tort and they wanted and they needed money to rebuild the system. Well, Republicans were running the state House in Louisiana and they said, we are not going to give you a die unless you put school choice in the New Orleans. We want charters and we want vouchers, and we want private schools. They had to agree to it. They fired like seventeen hundred teachers, built it up, made it more efficient. New Orleans now has one of the best educational systems in the whole United States of America. Even the Washington Post at the twenty fifth anniversary of Hurricane Katrina had to call it a miracle in New Orleans. Can't have to happen, but it happened. Mississippi was at the bottom of education in America. Mississippi now is in like the top ten. You know why? School choice. Yes, they've said, look, man, they were at the bottom. The Conservatives took over, gave choice. They ain't just giving choice to white children. All of them get the choice. It's like you want to call conservative racists, right, you said, well, when you say i'm pro life, you're not a board and black children either, and we're more concerned about that. And it look like the Democrats are. We're trying to save black children from dying. And when you can get into the inner city, that's who's dying, and we're dying. They're trying to save those children. We're trying to get those children to get education. Why because our children don't get a good education. Yes, they're going to go to a private school, they're going to go to a suburban school. We're trying to help you. Why because that's the Christian way of life, that's the American way. And so we fight for these things, not so much to help us, but help our neighbor, to love our neighbor, and I believe that school choice taking these children away from the public educational system because we found out what they've been doing, sexually grooming these children, putting point in the libraries, bringing drag queens in, not educating them, a gender fluids flu fluidity, and were wondering why these children are coming out of school crazy. Yes, we found we found out now, so because we found out how this functional, they are the school choice movements getting more and more powerful and and more and more conservative. Statement Florida got a great school choice for a program going out there right now. But I think it's also probably the quickest way to fix public education. Is school choice correct, enough people leave it, you'll finally start focusing on how the heck did. We get it. It'll be just like the postal service when fair X and and uh ups came in that the Postal Service in the United States of America wasn't think about doing anything overnight. They didn't have to. But then when fair X came in and started doing things overnight, they had to up their game or they were losing customers. And now they're and and and and and now they're competing. But they know this The teachers. You don't don't want to lose their power. They control the Democratic Party and they control the amount of money that they get. Brandon Johnson's about to go broke up in Chicago now because the teachers unions that you're going to keep your word to us, and he's given these teachers these big time raises. The children still not learning the freaking thing. But they take care of these teachers. The teachers give them ninety nine percent nine nine percent of the teachers union and contributions go to the Democratic Party and they keep these And you don't have one school up in Baltimore that's fluid in math, science or reading, but yet the superintendent gets paid four hundred thousand dollars a year. That's the crazy. And these teachers are getting in tell Washington, DC, the average income for school chiaches almost six figures now. And just like unions, what the unions do they want to do. They want to get the most amount of pay for what the least amount of work, and that's what they do. We touched on that a little bit here where we did a little bit of a study on the school system here in Bedford County over a fifteen year period they had lost combined with all three schools, around nine hundred students. And when you start digging into it, you also find that in that same period of time, the central office administration expanded and teachers expanded. Yeah, they kept the money. Now, I said, now, wait a minute. In business, if I lost nine hundred, you know over a period of the third years, more vice. Presidents, it is, I'm not hiring more workers. But that's what's happening in us the school system. And they if the child left and the money went with that child, they straightened up that. Oh and if the child leaves, the money stays with them, so there's no incentive to change, and they can always go up the capitol. He'll pay some campaign contributions. Then they can get a raise. So that's the problem that we have. And you know, people like us are talking about it, and we're educating people about it, and people are getting it finally. But again with the legacy media, they weren't saying anything about this at all. Now we're talking about it. One of the things that you know, I always ask these people in the media, said, I haven't seen a good news report yet on holding the Democratic Party responsible for the Inner cities of America. I haven't seen you guys go down there and stay and ask the Democratic Party, how can you justify Detroit? How can you justify y'all? They want to go down and tell you about how bad it is, but they won't say the Democratic Party is in charge down here. And so they'll say, Oh, it's racism, or it's it's systemic racism, or it's lack of opportunity, all this all that. He said, No, the Democratic Party is a Marxist political party, and they don't instink I understand anything about economics and help using it as a tool for control. Yes, it's not. And and and when you look at you know, during. The Civil Rights movement, I was reading this book by Taylor branch It's called American in the King Years. It's a great book. Taylor Brandt won the Policer Prize for this book. He's a liberal. He was Bill Clinton's roommate at Yale. So at the beginning of this book, talking about the Civil rights movement, he said that in nineteen fifty six, the communists who had invaded the Civil rights movement had infiltrated it. Was given a command and a directive from the common turn in Russia. They wanted to take the black community and make it a direct replica of the Soviet bloc. That's what they've done. He's inner cities and direct replicas of the old Soviet Union, apostate religion, dictator worship, you know, just one party rule, dictator worship, poverty, substance abuse, loyalty to the state. And they've done this, and politicians have allowed this to happen as long as they can go up to Washington to make deals. So when it comes time for an election, the Republican Party will not put any money behind any Conservative candidate, black or white. They'll go in there and try to politic so the people never hear the truth. The first time they've heard the truth is in maybe the last five years when we've been able to come on our podcast and do this. And I've been so amazed to find that so many people, black and white people read my books. They've shared my books, my podcasts are being shared. This is why I'm so raw on my podcast. You have to be able to get through the noise, and there is an aggression down in the inner city that they respect. The biggest problem we've always had with quote unquote black conservatives, that they were all kind of too bookish, too ivery towered, and the guys down in the hood wouldn't give them any respect whatsoever or listen to them. They love Malcolm Max. You know, Malcolm wore tie everywhere he went in a suit because Malcolm still had that grit about it. You know. One of the ways that I'm able to get through them is the same thing. I go down there and I deal with them as a man, and I have taken Christianity, and I call it through Christianity because you meant a Christian. Y know. Jesus wasn't no punk, that's right, But they try to portray him as one soft spoken and easy, like a hippie smoking weed. Right, that wasn't him. Martin Luther King Jr. Came out and said that Jesus was non violent. Christianity is not a religion of non violence. It's a religion of non aggression. It's no virtue and us leaving tonight and seeing a young girl going out there getting a costant, seeing somebody grab me, I'm gonnary to put in the car. And we said, well, we can't do that because we Christian man were not violent. No, we gonna grab the God. We're gonna whoop until he stopped fighting and called the police and turn him in. It's not virtue. And you guys going home tonight. Somebody breaking your house tonight, trying to harm your wife and your children. He said, well, we're Christian, man, We're none violent. That's a lie. Yeah. So they convinced these young men to be a Christian, you have to be like that, and they rejected it. Malcolm comes in with this native of Islam stuff and even though it was a lie, he did tell them you have a right to be a man. And these young men responded to this when I go up to them and I tell them, no, no, young man, you have a right to be a man. You have a right to defend yourself in Christianity. You know, you want to talk about racism. Well, you're trying to tell me and this is me always as racism. Yeah, trying to me the white man and know you down. Then he has stopped. He can't hold me down. Yeah, now you're telling me hold o every bit. Wait. Wait, you spoke to me, this big, tough, strong black guy and you said that the white man can hold you down. I'm bruhah, no wonder you ain't got no woman, then you ain't married, and then see they have to deal with this. So hold on, man. So you're trying to tell me the only way you can make it is that this white man got to let you make it. It's like going on the basketball court and that's him' apout you twenty points. That's the game you brother? You asked him like you're a punk. I'm just gonna tell you because the brothers, I know, we don't need that. I don't need the ei. Man. I got put on the. The Southern Party lost and this hate list with Charlie Kirk because I did a speech for tv USA and I said that any any one of you little I was college campus children talk to him and said, any one of y'all come up to me and my brothers with a d e I written on your chest and you walk into our world, I'm gonna slit your throat. And they said, oh, that's hate speech. I said, man, it's a matter for okay, quit custing your pearls. You know we all play football, right the coach is starting to come out on that field, and you know he didn't earn it. You start salivating. Yeah, man, we gonna tell you yes, and we because he didn't earn it, right, and that say, it's the same thing they setting you guys up to fail. You have to earn it, and when you earn it, you get the respect of men. We've seen too many movies of these two men that hate each other and then they end up being because throughout the trials and tribulations they earned each other's respect. It's a human element involved in it here, and they're taking that away from you. Yes, you have to earn it. And I said, so if you tell me you can't earn it, yeah, I can earn it. What are we talking about? I always use that psychology with them when it's not talking about racism and white supremacy. Man, you know that flip side of white supremacy. Brother is a black infilureity. You say in your inferior no, I ain't a failure. Why are we discussing that? What they got the system shakes with the Democratic Party control all the systems in the black community. Why you're still voting for them? Right? Wow? You got a plantation mind, that's the conversation. I never lose them Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different results. You've been doing the same thing between and fifty years. Brother, you crazy as hell? Yes, and they respond to it. I always go back to what they do. I'll ever let them get off the hook. I don't go in arguing about crime or you need to usually get a job, a cli up your own community. No, I talk about how can you sit in front of me and tell me that you are a man and at the same time tell me to you infailor right? How can you tell me you are a Christian? And that's one of the first questions to You're Christian? Yeah, I'm a Christian. You believe in Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's your father. Yes, he'll take care of you about all your leeds? Yeah, why you're begging? Yeah, take as much time as you need on that one. Broh. You know you've touched on something here that Brian and I have talked about in the past. Because we talk with a question, we have no answer and I'd love to get your thought on this. What has happened in the last twenty to twenty five years for a disregard of life amongst young men, and we watch shows where or news stories and there's just a death, a shot to kill someone. I'm going back to my coaching, but one of the kids that I coach from, you see Glass just recently is playing a video game with the headset on in Bedford Avenue in Lynchburg. In the middle of the video game, someone walked into his house and executed him from behind the anniversary. What I mean this kid played with my son. I mean, I just literally what is it? What is it that has happened that we could actually take someone's life when even if it is raised by a mother, they love their moms, Their moms loved them. There is love in that house. What is it that they lose to kill someone else? What is It's a systemic problem. Don't talking about a systemic problem. That's a systemic problem. We actually do have. What what's going on? Great right to Thomas Wolf said that culture is the arts elevated to a set of beliefs. Whatever the arts are, it will become your culture. We learn from the art culture. Your culture is the art ars elevate to us other beliefs. This is why John Adams said, after they did the Constitution, our Constitution is designed for a moral and religious people, is adequate in any other. And for the first one hundred and fifty years this country, the church is controlled education. The founding fathers will have been gassed to think the government was educating its citizens. It's about no, not government. What that's that's Marxism, the government educating its citizens. No, the freedom of religion was the first freedom because we our religion was going to teach us how to lift together. Our religion was going to teach us what type of government we should have. So what did John Locke say in the Second Treaties of Government? He said that our rights are unabilable rights give them to us by whom God. Yes, they are irrevocable, non transferable, and unsellable. You can't take them away. Jefferson read that and put it in our Declaration of Independence. And yet you've got a sitting senator in Virginia who recently said that your rights come from the. Come from the government. And it was a higher law, as Suart said the Center of New York, we have a higher law in the Constitution. Those higher laws led us to the thirteenth fourteen fifteenth Amendment. The higher law when we as men look at our Bible and say does it match? And when it does it we got to change it. Yes, because it's the higher law that always mattered. What is our higher law? Our religion? So what happened our religion was called We all know about the abolitionist movement and how it led to the Republican Party and the Abolitioners movement. Candy's ideas from Christianity and everything that we've done that's been good in America came from Christianity. Everything came from Christianity. So now what did they do? Devil Is Candy? You took a culture. And I remember when hip hop music came out, Yes, and I started hearing you and I you know, when I was my late twenties, so it didn't really have an effect on me. But I said, man, children hear this stuff. They have no reference to other music. I mean, how's this going to affect them? This is terrible stuff. I want to killing N word. And now we see the results of it thirty something years later. Yeah, a savage culture where and we and I know he liked like you guys, I've watched this in horror. The black community is the only community that defines itself as us negative terms. What's up? N word, what's up? B, what's up? W? Put it into music. We never heard such a thing before. We talked. We did rock and roll and Evis talked about about the most violent thing you ever heard was on set on My Blue Stray Shoes man, most violent song ever come out of rock and roll was talking about killing people, Yes, selling dope, shooting police, raping women, calling uh black women the B word, the W word. You got black women on there. Kamala has brains, these nasty people and have them campaign for her. Ronald Reagan would have never bought a flint and and the guy from what's his name, the guy that did Playboy magazine? You know what? About them to the White House. Now we had Biden and Kamala Harris actually having carniate b sexy red glow. Reller show this year for the NFL. Thank you, y'all Blue. Whatever they has, whatever that is, they have taken the culture and the culture the arts have become the culture. That's why even when you talk about the arts martial arts, but teaching somebody how to fight it oratory is an art. Books, DBDs art. What we're doing now is an art form because we're teaching people, entertaining people. It's art, and the arts have become completely fractured and immoral in the inner city. And and I saw it coming. But I'm thinking, like you know, we were all thinking when were younger, Well, they gonna take this stuff and do what they do with point on magaze things. They're gonna put some plastic on it and put it in the back somewhere and raise taxes on it to a point where it becomes you can't buy it. Well, these stuck as start making so much money that they started paying off politicians. Yep, they first started paying off the black organizations that were coming out against them. The NAACP started getting money from these these record companies that were selling the rap music and the things to wrap and they shut up. Then when they shut up, they start giving money to the politicians. And they saying, you know, this stuff is all over the place, and children are hearing the most viral, terrible stuff. I remember watching the movie Slim Blade, and slim Blade will tell me you shouldn't be talking like that. You're just the boy. You shouldn't be seeing these things. You just slem Blade had enough sense to know there's certain things children shouldn't see. And we all knew that growing up, our parents would hode our eyes. And somebody kissed them to tell me they knew that there's gonna be a time when you can see this, but right now in your mind can't deal with it. They are showing these children this stuff that and doctor nating them now. Can't give them such education classes on gender fluidity when they're five, six, seven years old in its own purpose, you know, yes, when we know that children should be wired up at that time to try to please God. They won't let them pray, won't let them have a Bible, won't let them even do a prayer for lunch. Oh, but they'll bring lgbt Q and drag queens in front of them. And that's where it's come from. This this violence, this this this, this, this sexual degeneracy, the anger, the the putting society on on on top of his head backwards. Everything that we saw is virtuous and good. They frowned upon if you're if you are forgiving your week, but if you kill it, n word you hard. You know, Jogas brag about going to jail. They do rap videos of jokes any penitentiary and like it's a hard life. You know. It's the most insane culture ever. And right now, black men in America are the most violent subculture in the world, not in America, in the world. Black women in America are the most pubisco subculture in the world. It is a dystopia, and the Democratic Party forced meeed ahead instead of damning this. Kamala Harris has the nerve to bring these people on the campaign trail with her telling every young person watching her, this is a paradigmic virtue. This is who you should be, this is what you want to be in America, and little children watching her unless the parent is in that ear telling them this is a lie, this is wrong. We'll look at that and say, Okay, it makes sense to me. So we have to again, Brothers and I, there's so much money behind this, it's so much The only thing that we can do and I don't know is get the Supreme Court or get the government to start calling this stuff obscenity. Finding a way to use the FCC to keep it off of the airwaves. Well, we had that fight earlier in the eighties, like you did. Yeah, we have to bring it back. We have to start giving empirical evidence that this is the strong society. There is no redeeming value in it. It's poison. I'll tell you there's another one right there along with it. And I don't know why there hasn't been research about the murderers that have been assassins. But how many of them play video games where can actually blow somebody's head off? And you can recall that debate when we were back then, when they were coming, I was in your you're creating a generation of monsters. Now we're seeing it. And of course these children know nothing about that debate, but we remember those debates. We also had that same debate when they started talking about gay marriage and all this kind of stuff. We said, you're going to end up what they wanted to have, domestic partnerships, and everybody was arguing about it. We were telling them this is going to end up being gay marriaged a crazy They're not gonna be a gay man. Gay marriages insanity. I'm telling you, it's the drip, drip, drip, Yes, it's the frog in the hot water. And so in the later America becomes desensitized and then we have to do a serious correction, and this is where we are. But one of the things we're going to have to do when one of the most serious corrections we got to do is dealing with this culture, the the the arts that elevate this this violent culture. And I can tell you, brother, I believe that that is the primary driver of it. The second music that they're listening to and the fact that the educational system not only doesn't counter it, they are immersed with it. Also. You'll go to some of these school in inner cities and they got these people up on the walls as heroes. Oh wow, yeah, it's it's so, that's that's the problem. You know, you said something and you're talking to two guys that kind of like Tucker, we grew up in a little different way, although I grew up in a rough neighborhood myself. But I don't know what you're saying that some of the stuff that you're saying. And you said something before and like you said it here too. What music do you you suggest you listen You did gospel tours. What music do you suggest that people could listen to? Because I actually wrote that down in one of your interviews and added to Spotify because I want to start listening to that myself. So just on this podcast, what would you recommend people to have their kids listen to. I'm gonna tell you something. You guys are gonna laugh. I have a daughter. She has turned seventeen, and I listened to so much good old music. She was into the Beatles, and she called me and said, Daddy, Paul McCartney is touring America and this is going to be his last tour. He's eighty three years old. You have to take me to see Paul McCartney. I said, baby, are your sirius now? She said yes. Went in all tickets, tickets like about fifteen hundred dollars. Lord, and the closest place is Atlanta. I said, you really want to go see Paul McCarty Dead Bay? She said, Daddy, the Beatles are going to be done after this, and I have I have grown up on the Beatles and I got to see the Beatles. I said, Okay, we're going to see Paul McCartney. I was so happy. My daughter didn't want to go see Sexy Rey Ed or some rapper. She wanted to go see the Beatles. That's beautiful, and that's because all her life. That's the move that's the music I played for the old classics. Didn't play that crap in mouse. She listened to music, but it was the good classics and the and so I listened to gospel music a lot. I listened to Oh my Goodness. I listened to the old Jackson southernaiers. I listened to a whole lot of old Motown music. I listened to Elvis. I'm I'm from Memphis, so you know I got a love Elvis, right, Elvis is the only guy that you can have a crush on it. I be gay, right, I love Elvis. We listen and I just listened to the gospel choirs. I listened to Tashakabb Leonard. I listened to the old Jackson southernareers. I listened to the William Brothers. This stuff just never gets old. It's it's old gospel music, and it's the best music in the world. Even Elvis will pull up with a gospel song every now and again. Aretha Franklin did gospel old Moltown stuff was just it was great, and you know what, and that bought black and white peopgether more than anything. We listened to the same music when we were young and white people like Motown, we liked Elvis and it all just it bought us together as as as a community. The music did and it was good music. You danced to it. It was happy music. I was showing her. They were showing the war in Ukraine, and they showed this bombed out place, and it showed this these people in this village, and it was telling the story. The person was timing it was taking it. This woman was sitting there and everybody was sad, and she put on a song by the Beatles. So when I saw her. Standing there and everybody got them started climbing and started dancing. I said, that's the Beatles. That's what it does to you. It's just happy. Yeah, I shoot nobody, it's out about killing anybody. But those people started hitting the Beatles, just started clapping their foot and started getting happy because it reminded them of the time we we That's the music that I listened to. I listened to music, the good stuff, the classics. I try to strain through the new stuff. A lot of it is not good. But I listened to Aretha Franklin, the old Moltown stuff, the old gospel stuff, Elvis and Johnny Cash and I love it and I listened to it every single solitary day. And my daughter, you know, and my children grew up on it. And when she says she wanted to go see the Beatles, I said, well, I've done pretty good with you and she and she hasn't. She doesn't play that nasty garbage rap stuff. But again, parents let their children hear it. It bleeds into their homes through these things. Yes, And I said, it's like when God was walking through the garden after the Satan had tempted Adam and even caused him the sand. And when God was walking through the garden, Adam was hiding because he knew it was naked and God was looking for Adam and he said, Adam, where are you? Adam said, am, I, while you're hiding, say I'm naked, And he said, who told you you were naked? Who told you you were naked? And you walk into your child's room they're crying, So what's wrong? I think I'm transgender? Who told you was transgender? I didn't tell I didn't tell you you were Who told you that? I think I'm not embarrassing? Who told her you were non binary, where'd you get that from? Yep, a snake has got into your garden. They come in through this, Yes, they come in through the TV. They come in through the educational system. And you educated your children, right, You've told them, and somehow I know they've gotten these crazy You know, you come in and your child is. Oh, d you on't fit Noel, where'd you get those pills? I didn't get them for you. This is the danger we're in now where we we got into a place where you know, when we were growing up with you had one TV and it was in the family room, and mom and daddy sat down there and they did knew everything you was looking at. Yeah, and they had to sign off on it. And my dad had this rule we get to argue. You said, you got to agree. I'm gonna turn the thing off, and we had to sit down and agree about what we were going to watch. Now, every child got this oh yes, and they're looking at it and you don't know what they're looking at. Ida, and these dirty satanic people send that stuff to these children. Yep. And before we catch it, the serpent is in the garden. And you said, oh my. God, you know, it's really cool. You said this because this is a self thing that I noticed this weekend. So my girlfriend's sons are a senior and a freshman in high school, and we're having dinner with their their grandparents, and while we're at the table, they're doing what they always do. They're in the phone and they're both laughing at the phone. Both grandparents, the grandfather and then the grandmother. Later both said what are you looking at if you're laughing. One of the grandfather said, if you're laughing that hard, let me see what's so funny. I was like, that's they still parent They're still parenting. They're still I was like, that is it was beautiful, they're still those parents. And that's we've gotten lazy with it. We've let these things. It's convenient because we can go do what we wanted to do. They snuck it in on us. And then and now they've convinced us, you know, racism and everything else, you can't make it in America. And we're all the guys looking back. I thought we were saying we thought we were done with this stuff. I mean, hell, we got a lot better than these children now. And we and we came in we were like the first class after the segregation thing, and we went to school together, played football together. That they have no race rise and nothing at the school. And we're looking at them two generations down, and you guys are acting like y'all y'all arguing and fighting much worse than we ever did. It's confusing to me. But now that we know how they work it, our understand it, and we have the ability now and again, guys, one of the most disappointing parts of it now, I mean, the Black church has really gotten bad with it. And I'm seeing this on my shoulder. I said here, the concept of the black church is archaic. It shouldn't have to exist any longer. The white church doesn't exist any longer. It's one church, the Church of Jesus Christ. We finally gotten beyond that. You're not going to go into any church around here, whether it be mostly white or mostly black, and have somebody turning around because the color of your skin. It's just not gonna happen. That's correct, and so the whole concept of the black church, and they need to keep that because the black church is part of the mechanism of the Democratic Party. It's part of how they maintained control. And my father told me as I said, he had a He ran a radio station, a black radio, well black gospel radio station, and he did a lot of business with black ministers because of his singing in black churches and the business that he did with the black radio stations. I ran for Congress in two thousand against Jim Clybron now in South Carolina, and I went to see my aim. Yeah, and I went down to talk to my dad about it. Dad told me something, never forget it. I have it quoted in my book. And Dad said, all right, sir, listen, he said, you get being ready to get involved in politics now. He said, all your life, I've taught you to revere the church, not the pastor of the church. And I've told you believe in God. He said, but you listen to me. And my dad grabbed me by my arm and look me right in mind and said, you listen to me. He said, you trust the bootlegger before you trust the black preacher. And he was as stern and as serious as you've ever been in his life. You said, you hear me, He said, the worst people walk in the face of this earth. You don't believe them, don't trust them, you cannot trust them. And it has never been a true statement my father ever. Throw it, wow, the fact and it goes all the way back, y'all. MLK, when I discovered the man wasn't even a Christian by our definition, then believe in the deity of Christ. Then believe in the virgin birth, then believe in the resurrection, believe that Hell was a real place. And I'm saying this was he's not a Christian. And then when you look at his lifestyle, the fact that the guy had forty five girlfriends, got involved with orgies up to twenty people that the SELC was started by a Communist by the name of Stanley Levinson and be at ruston. His lawyer was Clarence Jones. He was a Communist. The guy that ran the SELC, his name was Hunter pitt's Odell. He was a Communist. JFK talked to him face to face. Bobby Kennedy too and told him, look, man, you're infiltrated by communists. Hear their names. Get him out. He said he would. Jago Hoover found out that he didn't told Bobby Kennedy. I thought he was supposed to cut these guys loose. Bobby Kennedy, he said, well, put the wire taps on him because we can't trust him. Wow. And that's how the wild tap started. And this is where all the stuff about his orgies and stuff came in. But here's interesting. This is interesting. They said that Jago Hoover wanted to destroy mart Luther King Jr. Rights didn't come out and until these idiots they broke into an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania in nineteen seventy one on the eve of the Joe Fraser Muhammad Ali fight, and they stole the corn Tail corn Tail profiles and gave him to the Washington Post and the New York Times. And that's how the King's all just came out. It wasn't Hoover. Hoover kept them secret. And so people started saying, well, he tried to put him out, but nobody would printed help The printed him in nineteen seventy one. Yeah, and if they weren't going to premid, they went to front of them. Then who's job was to make sure? More than anything, King was the horse they were riding, and he didn't want him compromised or hurt. Wow, they said LBJ and the Kennedys. Make sure Yuys will phillipit's his cat. Now. If he goes down, we go down. This is why he believed he could do anything he wanted. They told him, you're protective. So King was after he was resputing cocaine running women. The night before he died at derainmo Hell slept with two women that night and beat up another one. I mean, he was a wild man. He wasn't a good person, and his message to black people was trash walking around in this I have a dream speech, saying five times in the speech we were not free. Well, we've just talked about our freedom is and the able right given us by God. He talked about, you know, one hundred years after the Masurpation Proclamation, that Negro is still not free. I was born free, telling me I got to go to government for my freedom. You don't go to government for your freedom. You deny government to come and take it from you. That's why you have the Second Amendment. You don't give me my freedom. So the government walks up to me and says, mince you free. I'm like, come, I know. What, and. You I've always had it. I say, you want me to advent that that card that's yours. I know. So what in the Civil Rights Act that got you free? I was born free, and they want us to still believe that we were free by the Civil Rights Act. Even at the end of the speech, what he say on so I'm certain you be free at last free a last snack dog on matter free at last? I'm already free, doc, thank you. Then he walked around and he said, when will we be satisfied? We will never be satisfied. Dot tell Righteouness rolls down like water, and justice rolls down like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream. Right. That's a fast way of saying never. Yeah, that's Trotsky, never satisfied. Continuous revolution sixty years. Later, still doing the same. Thing, never satisfied. What did our Bible tells us? Y'all? Jesus said in my peace I leave with you. I'll give you peace that transcends all understanding. Even when he said, I'm dreaming about a day that I won't be judged by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character. Why I couldn't he leave the color of my skin out? You know, because all your life it makes you think that something wrong with the color of your skin, and I say, okay, here it is. I'm not gonna walk around apologizing for being black. If you got a problem with me being black, that's your problem. If I love you, you don't have to love me. But I was told by God I got to love you, and I do. And if you got a problem with me being black, that's your problem. But underestimate me at your peril. Yep. I'm not going to bed for your acceptance. I'm going to work for everything I get. And me walking around here thinking something wrong with the color of my skin. You know, you only have to apologize or something that you're ashamed of. Right, that's right. So when you say I want to be judged by the content of my character, let me tell you some player. You will be judged by the content of your character. It's unaboidable. That's the big lie. You will never judge by the color of your skin. You're always judged by your character. Even when you look at mart Luther King Jr. I bey leave education, no bare prize, Time Magazine Man of the Year, had a calili at a Rolette's watch man. A beautiful woman never pour a damned life. Into private schools his whole life. His dad is sending to an ivy League school. What is he complaining of? He fulls on top of it because some white folks didn't like him. What was Jesus Christ saying about that? You're not supposed to be worried about man? Son? Am I satisfied with you? Because we all know our Bible? If you go to please man, what are you doing? You set in the trap? Yep, it's a snare. Yep. That's why black people at the bottom of every associated with economic statistic in America. Right now, we're still going out there trying to please man. At the end of the iron triangle, I wrote, I write in last chapter short chapter is epilogue. My dad tells me this story about my great grandfather. His name is Ivy Bond, and we called him Big Daddy. Big Daddy had fourteen children, had his own property. He was, he was he was something. I knew him when he was old, but he was he was something. My mother always told me that the Big Daddy didn't play and everybody respected him. But I saw that I knew him, and I was I was a big boy. When heim died, I about fifteen sixteen years old, but my dad tells me this story. He said that the nineteen sixty five, it was nineteen sixty five, the Civil Rights Act had passed, so they took down the white tony signs, black only signs. And he took Big Daddy to a bus station, the bus station to catch a bus. Big Daddy lived there and segregated South this whole life. So he automatically went to the color side. It was just automatic for him. And my father stood on the white side, said, miss Ivey Messing the Ivory Bard. You ain't have to set it on the color side no more. You can come on the white side if you want to. Daddy said there proudly, and he said that. Big Dad looked over and said so now. He said, yes, sir, He said, I'm gonna walking over there. He had the floor walks, he said. Big Daddy walked over there, walked across the floor, rocked it back and forth, walked across the n walked back and forth and looked at that and said, you don't walk no different, huh, and walked over and sat back. Down on the color side. Oh wow. The marvel of that story was Big Daddy was saying they've been trying to tell you for years. Boy today had something better than you, and they don't different. You don't walk no different. That flo ain't no better than yours. Why are you fighting to be somewhere where you ain't want it? It's against the Christian ethic. You don't use co wordson. The eleven people the Book of Corinthians said would never enter the kingdom of heaven. And the last one is the extortioner? Yeah, who is he? The one that used threats coercion to get what he wants? What was the Civil rights movement? It was an extortion. It wasn't King going up changing the hearts. Yeah, of his brothers and sisters like that was a lot of good white folks down down south. If you want to change the hearts of the bad, wasn't. Billy Graham told King that's still a revival. Together, me and you, we can change the hearts of the South. King turned him down. King wanted to use the law, and Billy Graham was telling them Martin, we got to change the hearts of people. Billy Graham always had those integrated revivals. We watched them growing up right, and my grandmom and granddad had a old black and white TV that watched two things on it, wrestling and Billy Green. And then when Billy Graham was on and I used to watch them and it was just mad and he would say, come, yep, it'd be a staining full of people, is it come to Christ? And Billy Graham did not go up in march one time in Washington, didn't actual for one law to be passed and say more soul than Martinus King Junior ever did. He never called people to Christ one time he wanted to use the gun uses oh uh this And when I make this point, the black people had always shut him up when I told him. King was not a non violent man. So a rices movement was not non violentce it was violence everywhere they went. They went to the Highland of Folks school to learn how to do it. In America, they will speak non violence and then they'd have calmunist operatives come in and cause violence while there's talking non violence. And this is where the violence came from, burning up the cities and whatnot in the riots. So I talk about the Godfather. I'm my Godfather finicionado, And one of the first scenes of Godfather, Michael Coleon on is sitting there with Kate Godfather Part one. He sees big lucal Brozie sitting there talking to herself in case said who is that scary man, Because it's very scared man. That's Luca Brosie. He said, me tell you a story about Luca. He said, Uh, father has a god god son by the name of Johnny Fontaine. Johnny is a singer and he had a contract with his band leader. Johnny wanted to get out of the contract to be a movie started. The band leader said no, so he asked my father to fix it. He said, my father, unto the band leader, offered him ten thousand dollars let Johnny out of the contract. Bad leader said no. My father said he'll be back. But this time my daddy came back with Luca Brosie and he got Johnny out of the contract for a thirty five check for one thousand dollars. She on, Mike out of shee you do that as a Luca Rosie put the gun to the man's head and said that either his brains or his signture would be on the contract. True story, I said. Now, was Vito Collion a violent man? For using violence Luca Brossie's violence, violence of a third party, forget what he wanted. Everybody says, yes, that's okay. Martin Luther King Jr. Won't see you the Hamburg At a lunch corner counter, white man says no. Mart Luther King Junior said back, and this time he gets the law passed and he brings a federal government. Freeral government puts a gun into the guy's head. It says, either you either Martin Luther King Jr. Or your brain is gonna be eating Hamburg. On this counter. It was Martin Luther King Junior a violet man for using the gun get what he wanted. People about to stay. Yeah, I said he used violence because the Christian way, that Jesus christ way change the hearts. He never used rome. He never told his disciples go march, go beg Caesar to get what you want. Go on. Know streets, change these people's hearts, change their minds, and that's how we change the world. The reason why we shall have all this racial animosity right now in America because we tried to use the law. It is the job of the church to do it. Yes, and it's our job to go out and talk to one another and stop going to the law. Like Jesse Jackson and al Sharton. All they do is march and complain and tell the Black community that owes something from America. Where before nineteen did you know that before nineteen fifty black people even called themselves African Americans. They call themselves Americans. They bought this, This whole civil rights movement bought this, the class system and the racial division into America. You look at the arts and the movies and the songs. Before the Civil Rights movement, black people saw my going to war and fighting for ward and we're Americans. And it wasn't a the white man is keeping It wasn't any of that. It was a whole different mindset about who we were. And between nineteen forty and nineteen sixty, the black community had the greatest reduction in poverty and the history of the world, from eighty percent to thirty percent in twenty years. The black family was intact. We had eighty or sent our children been born in been born to two parent families. Nobody was going to prison in jail. There wasn't any drug abuse aids. And then the Civil Rights movement came in and total here were victims, and the Markis had need of us, and Martin Luther King Junior and the civil rights movement turned it over to him. So when I can go into the black community and make this argument, they get it. There's gonna be some of the old folks that're gonna try to make you know, but the young people, they get it. And this is why me doing this has had such an impact. I can do math, and I knew that Trump lost that last election by about forty some thousand votes in seven states, yes, mostly in inner city. And if we can change, if we could change a few thousand votes in the inner city, he becomes president again. And we did it. We changed Milwaukee, we changed Detroit, we changed Atlanta, we changed Charlotte. We went into those inner cities, we changed Philadelphia. And I watched my numbers, and I knew whether people were watching, and that's why they were watching. They were watching in these inner cities, and people were sharing, and people were talking, and people were and people send me comments and events. You've changed my life, You've changed my mind. I didn't know. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And when we watched that night, I was down in Fort Fort Lauderdale with Patrick Bett, David. Yeah, y'all should have been there. It was like twenty thousand people. He had, boy, he had a VIP section. It's twenty five thousand dollars super VLP to get up in there. So but since I was there as his guest, I was up in there. That was only a stage with Canadas owns and Dave Smith. It was hot up there. Man comes here to Fort Lauder that ray. I was up there till three in the morning. I told Patrick when I got on stage, said, that's what you think happened. I said, guarantee Trump wins. You see guarantee. I said, guarantee one hundred percent. He said, what makes you think? So I said, I'd see what's going on in the inner cities. Black people don't like this illegal immigration. Yes, they don't like the fact that their schools are terrible. They don't like the factor that there's LGBTQ stuffs in their schools. And these black men more than anybody's coming out for Donald Trump. Watch what I tell you. And at the end of the day, that's what happened. So what we're doing is working with shaming man. You know again, when I sit down and talk to him, and he tell me he's a Democrat. I said, all, well, man, you must be gay. I ain't gay. Why you voting? We gain't married, bro, Why are you voting for? But for parties going to castrate your son and have been walking around in high heels and with pink patties on. Well, man, you know it's a man that. Don't be playing with me. I've been living a long time straight man. Ain't gonna be going with the crap like that. Bro, you gay? You telled up on yourself. I'm gonna tell you any any man that vote for the Democratic Party is gay, and then boy and p that shames him. Sure. I saw Clay Travis say that to day and name me the most masculine Democrat that's there. Who would it be? Don't have any I talked about Famala Harris's husband, for example. Yeah, yeah, man, I said, every time I see I'm gonna want to be tell out of it. You know, marry old woman, won't take his name, won't take his religion, you know, can't. I won't have many children. We're gonna spend all this money because that ain't gonna work for me. Player, You're gonna spend my money. You're gonna take my name. You go to the centergogue with me, Okay, I don't know about it. You ain't gonna get the check book. And they propped him as the future man. Did you know that? That's they literally propped him as the guy that everybody needs. Man, I look at that, guys what and he makes me sick? But those and they like. And so what we do is we just make it binary again. Binary. Yes, dude, if you're voting for gay marriage, you're gay. No I'm not. Yes, you are. And I'm gonna tell you play. Everybody know it. And I'm gonna and I'm gonna tell him you know these I'm gonna tell the women, man, you married to the Democrat. Man. Yeah about Donald Low but look out for him now. You better get him some HIV prep in the streets. Bro. So do you think we can get win some earl sears over the finish line? Here? Man, We're gonna try. They started late. I told these Republicans out the stupid stough. The Democrats are the evil as the Republicans are the stupidness. I mean, you talk, I can't sell a dollar for fifty cent. These jokers can't sell school choice. You can't tell getting your child out of school and sexually growing up. That's how terrible they are. Right, So when something. Started about a month ago, really hitting the LGBTQ thing real hard, and I finally right, that's the low hanging fruit. And I told them she also hit nine month abortion, not abortion. Nine month abortion. It's a ninety ten issue. I ain't say nine months. Make her defend that, make them defend perryinatal abortion where you voted against the born Live bill where the child survives, and abortion it's crazy. They're supposed to get aid from the doctor you voted against. You voted a lot of child died in the closet, you voted for that. And I said, and so they haven't hit that one yet, but they did finally started hitting the LGBTQ thing. But they may started hitting it too late. So I hope she gets over the finish line. She's closed the gap. But yeah, she they're they're they're d're in Trump because they're bringing in the heavy hitters. Now. On the on the other side, Trump is not very you know, she don't really have anybody she can call to help her here because there's no Republican very popular here in in inside Virginia. So I just hope that she can get it through the other side. I tell people who always try to say conservatives are racist, and said, we explain how. What's some earl series is the supporters about ninetyercent white. Yeah, and she's right, and she's one against a white woman that's about as white as castle. The friendly goes, you can't get no white in. That's the old white liberal. I mean, these people were racist on some earl sells. Don't even be in this fight. Yes, So you got conservatives that will vote for a black conservative. Now look at Tim Scott down in South Carolina. Look at Wesley Hunt, look at Byron Donald. You guys can't all don't hunt anymore. But again, the messenger is the most important thing, and the GOP has been very terrible and sending the proper messengers down there to deliver this message. So, guys, this is what I do. I do a lot of speeches for the Young Americans Foundation. So I go, I go home college campuses and I speak to the young the young people there. I do speeches for for tp USA and bless it. And it's funny that whenever there's a real tough campus, they'll say, send that's down there, because. I crave it. I'll walk up in those rooms, man, and I walk up and I look at these people, and he got all the other professors and stuff, and they call me they ready to jump me. And I walk up in and I says, oh, so, I hear so, I hear you guys believe in white supremacy. A good show me the white man superior to me? Stand up. I promise you we're gonna put that. To the test. That's an awesome way. And that's all I'm gonna stop. You know what I mean? Said nobody standing? An't that interesting? It says, I guess you guys don't believe it too well after all. Huh. And that's supposed to be the organization that's the the uh the last administration. Remember the FBI said the white supremacy was the most dangerous out here. Yeah, I'm white supremacy. It's it's White supremacy is like voodoo. You have believe in it, for they have any power. We you know, you walk up to a white man, say you're superior to men? You said, I'm not superior to you. Yes, you are. What can you do with that? Man, I'm sitting here telling you I'm not superior to you, and you're telling me that I am. Dude, I don't know how to help you. Okay, you go to you spirit, this black guy. No I'm not, Yes, you are, like man, I don't know how to help you. Man, I'm telling you I'm not superior to you, and you believe it so And if you don't believe it, like you know, we all enough to remember Muhammad Ali, how he would A lot of white men walked into the ring thinking they were superior to Ali and we got knocked out. It's not what he thinks, it's what you think. You don't try to bring him down. You pull yourself up. Yes, you can't control what happens to you. You could only control how you respond to it. And as you tell people about this, and tell him about this, and I said, this is a human element. Believe me. Men have instincts and they know when they've walked up and they are dealing with us superior being. You might be as racist and anti Asian as you want to. When you walked in front of Bruce Lee, your mind changed very quickly. You knew that Bruce Lee was a guy you didn't want to mess with, and you might have these anti Asian ideology when you and Bruce Lee walked into the room and you said, oh, Okay, that's a different type of man right there. And that's because we have instincts. So speaking of that, and this is what I would like to get to and Brian talked about knowing more about you. I can be in a room and know when a guy's much more intelligent than I. You have mentioned Saul Celenski, You've mentioned Trotsky, you mentioned c. S. Lewis, mentioned your background. What is your background? You went to Memphis State right, who was your mentor where was your education from? Were you self taught the history the communism? I have not heard anybody talk about Martin Luther King and communism before. I am an auto diect man. I study myself. I found out the smartest people in the world are one of self talk on the only conservative that it's really a blue blood is like Tucker Sean Handy didn't go to college, Rush didn't go to college. Cannis Owns didn't go to cann kind of going off the deep ending for a moment Charlie Kirk didn't go. Yeah, you'll find that. These people say, I'm not going to spend my time wasting six seven, eight, nine, ten years with their goblet. I'm going to spend that time educating myself. And then they come out with this, with this hitten knowledge that they've attained on their own. And when they go out and they do battle with these guys, it's just like what Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did. Right this guys know what you're doing, and they went and change the world. Yes, and all these guys at Harvard and yell M I t these guys in the Deckham Garage school them because they said, I'm not gonna waste my time. What you're doing is archaic. We know how to do it. That's kind of what we're doing now when it comes to conservative thought, these these schools, these I remember when I went to University of Memphis, Man and the first time I ever saw a gay students union, I said, what the heck is that in Brownsville this didn't exist. But they would tell us in New York City that we're backwards, we're stupid, we don't know how to live. But we go down in these small towns, and we see that there's no crime. Yes, people take care of one another. People people. We we go to our football games and we and we and we clap and we join, we hoo and we holler and we get along. And then you go to the inner cities and they supposed to so much better than we are, and they fighting, they're killing, and they hell raising, and we have a more simplar life. And they've tricked us into believing that success is money. And they always try to make you believe, like when you talk politics, they talk about economics all the time. The white community makes so much money in the black community, and the Asian community makes this in the education. But we forgot about the happiness meter. Yeah, And going up up here, we've seen it. We've seen a guy work a job for twenty five years at the foundry and retire with his wife in a small house it's about a thousand square feet and they have their children, their grandchildren come on the weekend and they barbecue and they watch Virginia Tech play football and go to living in university and they're happy. Yes, And you have all these rock stars out there shooting up and on crack cocaine and blowing the brains out, and then they'll look at us and say that their lives are better. That's about what measure. Yeah, there you go about what measure? Is your life better than these good people that I know up in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, who will during this time of the year, they'll go in their guard and they they they're picking. They'll leave some coin on you on your doorstep. But they'll go hunting and they'll go in there. They'll they'll they'll they'll kill a deer. They'll leave side of venice. And you know, just you know, if they see you on the side of the road pulled over, they'll come and they'll pull you out the dish and won't charge you no money. You know, just good good people instead of if you have if you have to walk to go to the store at night, and there in the city you get shot, or you get raped, or you get killed. They've tricked us into believing again. And our Bible tells us the love of money, not money, the love of it. Yes, He's the root of all evil, chasing it, put forth the Kingdom of God and all of its glowy and these things to be added to you. Put that foundation under you. First, be a good man, be a good woman. Learn how to live a good life. If they take everything from you, what type of man are you? And you y'all saw that movie, It's a Wonderful Life. Yes, at the end when he thought he was a loser and everybody came to his aid. And it's one of the best movies ever because he talks about a person that lived in a small town. He had all these grandyose ideas and he didn't make it. But then he saw it's luckiest man in the world. Why I had friends. We have to get back to teaching that again and get away from this ideology, this false idol that they put in front of this golden idol that they put in front of our children. That means you do whatever you can do. I'll have to do for the money. Kill lie that that carnal pleasure is the thing used to be after how many how many women you slept with, how many jokers you shot, how much money you got? No, go back to love God, love people. Now I'm gonna leave you with this. When they say ask Jesus Christ, who was the greatest commandment? He said, love the Lord, your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. Before you can love you. Before that is good, you have to first love yourself. Yes, because if you don't love yourself, but you love your neighbor as yourself. If you are doing drudgey, you're gonna give your neighbor ru if you're going, if you're doing, if you're promisionous, you're gonna take your neighbor to strip club. But if you love yourself, you're gonna say, don't do that. I'm not doing that. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't get yourself in trouble. You will. You will then be the face of God. You love your neighbor as yourself because you're a good man. You love God, love yourself, love your neighbor. And we go back to that thing that my daddy taught me as a boy. Never we'll forget it. Reading my Bible, Cain and Abel, you read the story thousands. Then I said, no, no, that's a hi meaning in this boy? What is it? I said, Kane, you know it's mad because God didn't take his off friend, and God knew what he was going to do. And Uh. God came to king and Daddy said, read this. And God said, Cain, why are you angry? If you do well, will you not be accepted? As if you do well, will you not be accepted? And if not, Sand waits at the door to master you. Yes, but you must master it. And he said, if you do well, son, you'll be accepted. My daddy it was left by his parents orphaned. He was raised by his great aunt uncle. I went back to Brownsville. They called me. The people in browns Will said, if it's come back home. You've done such good work. We want to honor you and give you some speech. And so I came back. My daddy came to all the festivities, about four or five things they had for me in the area. One of the best days of my life. And everybody I went in Brownsville, I was average's boy. They just talked about my father orphaned black man Jim Crow South never moved out of his hometown. Everybody loves him. Why he did well. That human alibi. I tell y'all about if you do well, will you not be accepted? People will respect you if you do well. These young children need to learn that again. They don't care but your race. They don't care about your agenda. If you do well, you will be accepted. And so I want to leave that with your listeners and your viewers. Do well, good man will accept you. Thank you so much for coming on the program. Give me one last question real quick. If you could pick anybody in history, any timeframe, who would you pick to spend twenty four hours with? And where would you hang out with that one person? If it wasn't Jesus Christ just setting in my bedroom, that's who I would choose. Besides Jesus Christ, I'll tell you'll be Abraham Lincoln. Oh wow. That man had the wait of the world on his shoulders. He had decisions that he had to make that nobody but him had to make them. I mean, Lincoln's given a decision. I can end the war and say one hundred thousand lives, but I got to put four million black people back enslavery, and I got to make it tonight. Good. What a decision. Yeah, the war will continue for another year and maybe one hundred thousand young men are going to die. Oh I can, and I can save these young men's lives, but I have to put four million black people back in slavery, or I can free these like these black slaves, and what one hundred thousand young men are going to die? Lord in Mercy was not going to do Wow. And he has to sit back and make decisions like that over and over again. And you asked the question, what drove that boy from the cabins of Kentucky, the railsplitter, losing all the elections that he lost, things that happened to him in his life. What makes you think that you could win the Republican nomination against Seward and all of these guys right and become president? I say something. I mean, you were just one one term congressman and you decided to take on THESEUS cut ten Chicago, Simon Chase, and you beat them. And then you took on the guy that beat you in the for Sennans it's Stephen Douglas right for presidency and you beat him. Good God, dude, what was going on in your head? It almost makes you think it's divine. It was divine, and you set back. You just want to just want to get in it. You want to get into the head of a man that basically changed the world that people look at Wow and and and did something that was so magnificent. And we all know the story. It came in stages. You know. He wanted to just suggest a union. He didn't care about who wants to be president in the Civil War. Right, will handle this other stuff for later, but right now, let's save the union. But he urshed the country through it. It was kind of Klesman. We'll still suffer from it today, but he did it. And the weight that was on that man's shoulders had to be amazing. So I'd rather said, I'd sit down on one night in my living room and just sit down and have a drink with the rail splutter, and just and just talk to him about his life and what led him from those cabins in Kentucky to where he was knowing, and how he handled the pressure that was on. It since ever, thank you again for joining us man. It was my place was fine. I'm glad to come in and stay with you brothers, and it was gonna be a good time. Heck, all we needed was some Jack Daniels. I'll bring it next tom next time you come, I'll have them to cut los In, all right,