Life Liberty Happiness - 10.22.2025

This is Life Liberty Happiness with Brian Schly and Trent Warner, streaming live each week on Media Squatch Plus and available on demand in the app or wherever you get your podcasts, Real Talk, Real Freedom. All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Life Liberty Happiness. I'm your host, Brian Sly. We are live in the David Hallmaker State Farm Studios here in beautiful Bedford, Virginia. We have a terrific show today along with my partner, mister Trent Warner, Hawdy and Emma back there pushing buttons. How's your new equipment? Emma great, started a little late. It did not my clock literally said, literally said, and I can see your clock from here. So all right, Well, we got a terrific show today. So if you can, if you're listening to us live, god head, log on the YouTube, click on the search and go to at l l H Underscore Podcast. Make sure you subscribe. This is our guinea pig episode with our new equipment, putting that out there. Okay, well it might look different next. Week, so you gotta be perfect because we have a terrific guest coming up a little bit later on the show. Our guest today is Vince Everett Ellison. He is a terrific human being. He's in their studio here. He does a podcast here, so we'll we'll bring him up a little later on. And can't wait to get that out of you. Those you who have not heard of him, shame on you. And second of all, if you ever have, you know the excitement we're about ready to have here in a few minutes. Palms are actually sweating. It's gonna be fun. So anyway, we'll get quickly to backwards and forwards straight. All right? This weekend camping up in near Harrison, not near well Stanton. And you said some beautiful pictures. Man, it's a beautiful place. And for once we finally got there relaxed, enjoyed, got everything set up and enjoyed. It took my mom and my stepfather. And we're in that stage that I'm really going to have to figure some things out. He's past that, in that dementia stage where I don't know how to have the awkward conversation with my mom of I think it's time, you know, so I don't right there, So that's not good. I could see it taking a toll on her. Yeah, and I don't know how to have that conversation, but I'm going to have it, so we'll see how that. But that was my weekend, and howbout yours? Man, it was awesome. So this week, the weather that we've had over the last couple of weeks has been just as your word, phenomenal. And there are certain songs that come out and you realize why they're written. So there's Purple Mountain's Majesty, which we've had at the Blue Ridge this week. I mean, with that orange background behind it, it is purtle. It's beautiful. Well down in Rileigh, Marty's parents own a couple hundred acres and we went hunting and I took her son out, the or her youngest son out. Remember last year he got the albino buck. Yeah, I was like hey and its first deer. I was like, hey, we're going out. Let's se kind of luck we have but we didn't have any luck. But he he's got soybeans and they are dried up right right, so it looks like wheat when you look out there, and man, that morning blue sky it was amber waves of grain. Oh my gosh, I got chills just looking out there. It was so beautiful. It was worth the trip just all that. Never saw anything, but man, it was just great being out there. Yeah. Sometimes that's the best part of hunting, right. Oh, yes, it's going out. I told you, man, I'm telling you. Is there certain videos on TikTok that just cracked me up. In that one of the guy in the woods, it's before daylight. Oh yeah, and he's singing and Jesus loves me this I know because it's just dark. You don't know. You feel like everything is watching you and you walking through the woods and then a deer jumps up and your soul just leaves your body, scared to death. There's so many little things about hunting that are just amazing. Well the time, did you get to anything this weekend? Just work, baby and dogs? Yes? I dogs out all weekend? Did you really? Oh guess what do I get to watch? Scoots? No? No? Later on Rushmore is dog Breeds? I thought he was going to finally let me. Then you get to really know the kind of man. Oh yeah, he didn't put his on here. Cracked me up. Why because a wide range. But it's like dog breeds and dogs that you've had, right, there's an infil right, So some of yours are dogs that you've had, and then some are wish that you wish you would have. I think it's my favorite, A massive I just about the list, get to sixth sense. I'm actually so excited about this. She just ruined it, all right? Moving on, This is in history, this day in history, all right? In nineteen sixty two, Cuban missile crisis. If you remember that, here's what's crazy about that when I read about it. So the US, I guess, found out about the missiles on October fourteenth, but JFK didn't address the nation until the twenty second, which is today. So I'm sure a lot of things go on between those days. But do you remember, I mean, like I remember watching elementary school like videos and movies about it, Okay, about how intense it was when they did the armada where they did the blockade, yeah, to keep any rust of ships from getting to Qba. See, I don't obviously I wasn't around, but I probably in my twenties when I started really focusing on history. That's when I was like, man, that was a serious, serious moment in history. Yeah, I didn't realize. I didn't realize the whole Cuba connection in the you know what I'm saying. Like, there's a story along that time that I think there was a Soviet submarine in the Gulf of Mexico that we didn't know about, and that guy lost communication. He thought they lost communication because the the wars had started, and so he was supposed to launch in that case, but they went up to surface and found that that they just didn't have communication. That's how close we came to getting into some dangerous times. All right, what do you have for this day in history? Twenty eleven, Kadafi was captured. Oh it's right, yeah, maar, Yeah, was it Momar or Noumar Momar Gadafi? That was he He had a weird sort of rain, right he was. He messed around with Reagan and found out, Yeah, and then then he caught it. Like that's what I mean, like leaders like that. Then after that it was kind of didn't hear from him for a while, right, and Hillary got involved, and then yeah, who knows what happens after. That, But yeah, that's the history. All right, this week perfect, So moving on, we are going to bring on our special guests this week. Today's guest is Vince Everett Ellison. Welcome to the program. I'm so happy to be with you two handsome gentlemen night. Thank you for inviting me. First of all, people have videos, so they know that's not true. He didn't improve the screen by coming on. But for those who don't know, you do your podcast. Yes, I do. The man is great here. I mean, it's just it's it's it's a family affairs, a beautiful places. It's just you know, the black and I heard you talking about the Blue Ridge Mountains up here. Yeah, it's just it's magical. Yeah, everybody that comes here, they look at it and they're amazed. I remember when I was on Tucker Carlson. Tucker asked me where I live. I told my live in AMers County, Virgi. And he said, I know that place. I said, how do you know Amer's County, Tucker? He said, my daughter goes to Uva and every time I come to visitor, I go trout fishing there. He said, it's the most beautiful place in the world. He said, why do you leave, Vince? I said, I don't leave until you call me Tucker's I'd be home right now if it wasn't, I said, yeah, man, I came down, I saw it. They're gonna bury me there. It's just the most beautiful place in the world up there in the Blue Ridge Mounts of Lynchburg, Virginia, Roanoke. That area is just beautiful. Yeah, and he's up in Maine, right, you want. Tucker Tucker's other man. I when I went to see him first time, we were down in Boca. So you know, Tucker, Tucker's blue blood. He got a lot of money, right, So he's got a winter house in Boca and a summer house in Maine. So I said, man, you got it made dude. So at that time, I was down in Boca. But I've been I've been on his show in person twice, and I've been on the show many times, you know, podcasting and whatnot. So but he's he's an excellent young man. He's an excellent gentleman. I really enjoy it. Well, I'll tell you what I watch. I've probably seen on X probably eighty percent of his interviews, which are fantastic because I love their long form and there is no holding back, and he's so talented at letting the person speak. You're the first person that I have ever You're the only person that I have seen in his interviews where he's had to take a break to go use the bathroom. That is true. He literally got up to go use the bathroom. I've never seen that before. I was. I was there, We got we we I came in that night. We did the thing that that morning, and we were just talking, talking, talking, Me and Tuck was cutting before we y'all saw it. And I'm thinking they were going to cut it up, you know, because I was there talking for three hours. And when I got in the cab to go to the airport, the lady said, well, they must have liked you because I've been out here waiting. Usually they're out in an hour and a half, but I've been waiting for you, you know. So they called me the next week and said, hey, the interview is coming out today. So I turned it on and I saw two hours and fifty seven minutes. That's all. No, it's gonna be a train wrap. Nobody wants to listened me for three hours. It was riveting. Yeah, So, and so I was. I was so concerned that man. So anyway, I did not watch it until eleven o'clock that night. It's a true story. So I said, let me see the damage. You know, everybody's calling me said it was great, but you know people are gonna say that, right, So I said, oh, let me watch this thing. It's about eleven o'clock that night. Tucker calls me and uh, I look at my phone. I said this Tucker, and I thinked, hey, Tucker's going He said, hey, Vance. He said, look, man, me and myself are here together, and we decided to call you and tell you best. He said. I've done interviews with people all over the world, he said, and we agreed that this was my third one of my top three interviews. Of all time. Wow. Wow. And I was blown away. And his stab said, I can't talk him his best interview of all time. And I watched it, and the thing that really intrigued me was the stories I was telling and my life was just the American life, and many people had just not heard it in so long they had been bought up into my new sha You're like, we were talking about white privilege, right, and we talked about all of us grew up poor, and it's no white privilege or black privilege to just go out there and you got to earn it. And when you tell people these stories that I grew up in the South, and no, I didn't have to run from the klan and know my white neighbors and hate me and know me and my white friends got along at school and it was real. It was an idyllic upbringing. Tucker said, what I said, I'm just telling you talking. It wasn't what people say. I loved growing up in the South, around my neighbors. I didn't have any problems with anybody. Everything was fine. And he said, benu're educating a lot of people. I said, I'm just telling you about my life, and it was. It was great growing up in Brownsville, Tennessee. Well see, it's one of those things like I used to watch all the presidential debates and I like the not necessarily that I like when they're running for president, when it's the Republicans and the Democrats. When when they're running the primaries, primary debate, especially when you've got you know, ten or twelve of them, they're like you just that's when you get to kind of see the real person come out because later on they're more polished in the presidential debate and most of that stuff. But it wasn't until to be honest with you. For me, you kind of look at the candidates, you hear their answers. But when Herman Kane was running, he started you kind of got to know who the person was and how he grew up and where he came from. And that's when I started researching the candidate more than just listening to them. Right. Of course, the smartphone came along and you could google these this stuff. But when I heard Herman Kane story, that's what attracted me to him more so than his policies at the time, was I understood more about him. And so that's why today I want to know more about you and your upbringing, because that's the stuff where you got to you kind of get to really know the person. Yes, like you know, to this day, I still who was Barack Obama? Where did he come from? I don't know anything about him? Yeh yeah. How could you become president and us not know? Like Trump we know pretty much. You know everything about him or any candidate of Vince. I knew who you were. And I've been doing this show with Brian. He's been doing this for five years. I've been with maybe four worl little listen for and I'm walking into the doorway and you walk out, and it took me three steps in here to realize that's Vince. I had no idea you were in Lynchburg. I had no idea that I seen you nationally for and I followed you along and I was like wow. So when Brian told me you were coming on, I mean, I got chills. I was like, this is this is awesome. Can't wait to find out more about you. Well, it is my pleasure to being around here with my neighbors and with my friends, and the people here are just so nice. And I explain to people it's the area, but it's also the people here. I mean, I understand the people. You'll tell them I live in the Blue Ridge Mounds of Virginia. The men up here are men. I ain't got to worry about guys walking around in high heeled shoes and pink panties around in this area. Okay, these guys are gonna judge you by your man They don't care anything about your race, they don't care anything about your nationality. They're going to judge you by your manhood. And if you're a man and you keep your word and you're a good Man, you're fine, But if you're up here complaining and begging and you're a liar and you're performed, then I don't have any time for you. And I understand men like this, to understand people like this, So people up in New York City and Boston that would drive me crazy because you don't know what the hell is going on up it's all over the place. And growing up in Brownsville, it was that binary way of living life. Man. I was born on a cotton plantation Heywood County, Tennessee. My dad was a sharecropper. The only thing that kept me being born at the lord's wrong of society was the fact that I had a father. But it wasn't strange because most of the people in the Mississippi Delta at that time were poor. I mean, the white people were poor, the black people were poor, and this is what it was. But my father bought us out of poverty by working in an insurance industry. My upbringing was interesting because you just had people, and you had rich white folks, poor block white folks, black people that did well, black people that didn't do well. So the color thing wasn't the issue. The richest man that lived in my county was a black man. His name was al Raws. Everybody knew our Raws. He owned a funeral home and he owned an insurance company. And Al Ross was so rich that he would have giveaways every Christmas, giving away washing machines and refrigerators and money, and they called it Al Ross's turnout. He just give stuff away. He was very wealthy. Well, my father needed a job, and he got a job working for Al Ross's insurance company, collecting money. Back in those days, poor whites and poor blacks did not have checking accounts, so you had to go pick up the money on the insurance route they called the debit route. And they gave my father this big old book with the names of the people he had to go pick up money from. And so monthly he would go buy that house, knock on the door, insurance man. They'd give him whatever it was two three dollars for the premium. He'd give him a receipt, write him down in the book, and turn all the money into mister Ross at the end of the week. From there, my father learned the insurance business. So he learned to sell insurance. He'd opened up his own insurance agency after that and he started making money and that's how he brought us out of poverty. Dad started and he bought us out. We got our first home in nineteen seventy two. He bought it FHA home car porch, central layer. Man. We thought we'd move into the Tajma home. He lives in at home still today, fifty years later. He had paid it off. He's still there, won't move and we man, you know what, with all the nice houses we got, if you try to take that house for me and my brothers and sister, you're gonna have a war. That's the one. We love going home. We love going to that house. We have nothing but fond memories there. So my dad has always loved gospel music. He's just singing qua TETs, you know, when he was younger. So he was so thankful that it was eight of us so we would like the partis family. He decided together a gospel singing group. He taught us to play the instruments in sang three part harmony. We went around the South playing gospel music. Man. We got three albums and forty five's. If you want to look at that, look up. The Ellison family were on YouTube. We're own there. So for years we went around saying gospel music. And I went to the University of Memphis it was Memphis State at the time. Played football there. After college, I started working in the prison in South Carolina. I thought we had overcome Memphis. Wasn't a Memphis that it is now? Oh great, Yeah, it just wasn't that. The crime and the murder, it just it just wasn't that. So I was under the influence that we had all overcome. The civil rights movement had done what it was supposed dude, everybody was happy. Then when I started working in that prison, it was in the nineties doing the Clinton Biden crime Bill, and they were locking up all these black men. And before nineteen ninety, South Carolina had three prisons in it before, but after nineteen ninety it had over thirty five prisons. Good lord, that Biden Clinton crime bill. It was like a forty billion dollars crime bill. If you can remember, one hundred police officers, one hundred thousand police officers and prisons, that's what it built. And I was looking at these young black boys going to jail and they were all about my age. I was about twenty seven, twenty eight years old at that time, and I'm asking the question, why did all these young black men go in to prison? What's going on here? And of course the black intelligenciad told me, oh, evil, rich white Republicans hate black people. I was very naive and I'm like, oh, really, well, I'm going to I resigned my post went down there to stop this. And when I went down into the ghettos that' saw something very very interesting. I saw no evil, rich white Republicans anywhere down there. You see a leprechaun or unicorn before you saw a rich white Republican down in those areas. What I did see was three entities making a lot of money off of the chaos. And they were most black preachers, most black politicians, and most black civil rights workers. And I called their crew in the Iron Triangle. I wrote my first book about the Iron Triangle. Book authority gave that book number sixty one of the greatest political books ever written in the history of the world. Wow. I self published it. They said that the odds of a book self published book selling ten thousand copies were the same odds of getting struck by lightning and bit by a shark at the same time. My book has sold tens of thousands of copies, tens of thousands, almost fifty thousand copies, and it shocked the hell out of everybody, and it got Simon and Schuster calling. So my next two books were done with Simon and Schuster, twenty five Lives Criming and now The End of Tolerance. And so I started writing these books, but they were always from this conservative point of view, this Christian point of view. And it's a point of view that is unbreakable because when somebody talks to me about white supremacy or black inferiority or systemic racism or something like that, and I said, look, nobody can be superior to me. Why because out on are of Jesus Christ, and I'm a child of God, it's nobody infear to me. God gives us all gifts. And I don't believe in equal outcomes. I believe in equal opportunity. You know why, because I'm kind of selfish, and I know that if you have a gift and I give you the opportunity and you find your gift and you do it well, I benefit from it. So if I go out to dinner and your gift is to be a cook and you found it. I'm gonna get a good meal. If my car breaks down and I need a good transmission, guiy, and next your gift. I'm gonna get a good transmission. If I am sick and you're a good doctor. I benefit benefit from each other. You're not going to ask the chef to make change the transmission. There you go. You got talent and we all benefit from that. So we want equal opportunity in America so that person can find what they're good at. And God has given us all these gifts and we want to make sure you get that. So when somebody starts talking about white privilege, I said, privilege. It is a privilege to be white, but it's also a privilege to be black. Sure, it's a privilege to be Asian. It's a privilege to be Hispanic. It's a privilege to be a Christian. It's a privilege to be an American. We're just try to go back into history talking about we need reparations. I said, man, you need reparations. You go to Antietam, you go to Vicksburg, you go to Gettysburg where those boys died to free you without your knowledge, your participation, or your permission. It was just a gift. Here it is. We died to give it to you. And then after they give it to you got the nerve to come and say, I'm not going to sue you for money. It's an insult to me. I said, no, you get to work, you get busy. And in America, and even if they say, you know, racism, racism, racism, racism, this is the cool they grid see. Let me tell you something, player. If you believe in racism, which I don't, if a person is racist, it has no power over me because are racist as an idiot, and an idiot cannot control me. So, but if you believe that here's something for you in capitalism, keep this with you. I don't care how racist you might think that man is. He's not gonna let the col up your skin get in the way of him making a project. I've said that. If you're his best saliman on that car lot, he's. Gonna keep you. You bring all the brothers, some of the hood to the back car. It's okay, he's gonna keep you all right. Absolutely, he's not gonna kick you. Why because you're black? This sucker make me ten thousand dollars a month. Maybe it's not going anywhere. You see the NFL, the whole defense use an African American man, why and people just come up the stadium to see them. Yeah. Cost they're good at what they do, and the owner's going to keep them because they're good. So when you start talking about racism, so you don't understand how capitalism works, people do not get the only thing that matters in capitalism gringing, gringing. So we're trying to we're trying to get advocate young people on this. But the one thing I really want to start doing, and I want to because this bothers me more than anything. I want to start teaching my white American Christian brothers and sisters to stop living in condemnation behind this assault on you, because I've seen it and it bothers me. I've heard some of my younger white friend tells friends tell me that they're almost embarrassed to be white. And I said, don't do that, because it's your fault. You owe this, you bad people. And I said, there's no condemnation in Jesus Christ, none, He's paid it. All all you do is this and say if you need a good teacher, I have to find one. You need a good job, I help you get one. If you need a good doctor, I'll take you to it. If your job, I have you get one. Said, but short of that, I'm not gonna live in condemnation for you. I'm not. And if you come and try to take anything from me and mine, I got two things that'll get you off of me. And that's Jesus in my thirty eight. Don't try. Don't live in condemnation for these people. So growing up with seven brothers. Yeah, yeah, seven brothers and sisters, yep, where. Did your passion because I mean when you speak, it's with passion. Where does that come from? Is that it's just looking at the lie? Yeah, my family has done. Everybody in my family's done exceptionally well because my father just all these absolutes in life. You got good and bad people. Race don't matter. Race doesn't matter. You don't have good bad white folks, bad white folks, good black folks, bad black folks. I asked my father this question last time I saw him. It's a question I asked a lot of old African Americans. Now that's a daddy growing up in the South, did ye have. Did white folks up doing any harm? You thought about it? He said no. I said nuh. He said no, he said most all I'm done to me? He was talking about black folks. It wasn't not my white folks. You get dumb. I asked that my mother in law, she was ninety three years old, same question, Miss Chaucy. Growing up in South Carolina, white people are living in a harm She said, no. We help me more than anything. And I've asked older black people that very same question, and they might have heard about something happening to somebody else. But when you ask them now that I'm talking about you, no, and you'll find that most much of it is propaganda. Yeah, where they will tell you these things have happened, but when you ask them the question, has it ever happened to you, they'll sit back and say no. It's almost like me being afraid of a rattlesnake. Right, I've never been bitten by one, but propaganda on television tells me that they're evil. So if I see a snake, I'm running right, and snake is don't know anything to me, say, looks at me, said. What's your problem? I'm running out of the room, man, I'm going. But we've been propagandized to believe it. That's what the media has done with black white relations here in America. They propagandize us to believe that we hate one another. And when you ask us, has any white person that have done you any harm? You know, any white any black person? Know? Then why are we angry at one another? Propaganda? I'm the television telling us that. So I grew up in an area where the propaganda didn't get to me. And then when I come out into the world and I see this lie and even right now, y'all, I walk between these two worlds. That's amazing. It's the black and the white world where I just walk. It's it's it's effortlessly through both. And I see the two sides not talking, but I know both of them so very well. Out did the speech in Memphis, Tennescy, A World Overcomes church. Ten thousand black people there and memph Sennescy Martin Luther King Jinn and got killed down the street. Okay, a black Democrat group of people. The pastor asked me to come. He's a conservative, but he doesn't speak a lot of politics from his poor pet Sure but he wanted me to come. He said in Black History Month in two twenty twenty three, now twenty twenty four. I'm sorry, said I want you to talk to my congregation about the Democratic Party. I said you sure about that? He said yes. I said, you woman to call them my name, because I'll do it. He said, I want you to call it my name. I called Chuck and Shawn. They talk about I'll be dead in ten minutes. Off they understanding, said all you'll see. I promise you. I got up there that started my speech. My father was there, my brothers and sisters were there. Just in case I need to run out to church real quick. I need he. It's five standing ovations. Wowow. When I stood up there and gave the history of the Democratic Party, and I said, they're a party of slavery from eighteen hundred and eighteen sixty, the Party of the Confederacy of eighteen sixty eighteen sixty five, Party of Jim Crow from nineteen eighteen sixty five to nineteen sixty five, another private party of transgenderism, open borders, taking your guns away, putting pawing in schools, drag queens and schools. Then an anted I said, the Democratic Party is Evin's organization in the history of the world. The whole church got start. Wow. And when I called my friends and told him about it, TUCKI and Shawn, they said, Okay, we're gonna win this election. Now, he said, because if you said that amongst these people, and they cheered. He said, something has broken in the Democratic Party. Yes, something has happened here that they don't see. And sure enough Trump got more of the black vote than any president has gotten since the eighteen hundreds. And he got it because we went out there and did the hard work. I didn't ask the mission from the GOP anymore because they weren't gonna give it to me. Now, we went out there and just started taking it to the people and the message of conservatism, of Christianity, of telling people your politics or match your religion. I did a documentary call will You Go to Hell? From Me? And I and I told Christians voting for the Democratic Party be putting your soul in jeopardy, because how can you be a Christian believing in Jesus Christ and believe in nine month abortion? Baffles me? How can you be a Christian believing in Jesus Christ and believe that you can cast straight little boys and call them little girls, give double misseexties little girls and call them little boys. Allow fittandel across the border as kills over one hundred thousand young people a year, and sex trafficking across the border and taking your way to your right to keeping their arms, Allowing the minted men to go into the bathroom and watch your wife and your daughter ironate, Allowing grown men to participate in sports with your children, Allowing them go into the locker room with your daughter and shower I mean, good guy. Allowing drag queens to come into the schools, to shake their behinds in your children's faces, to pull the Bible out of the libraries with pawing in. And you're gonna look at me and call yourself a Christian? You know? And you and I confront men with this. Women are emotional. Men are supposed to be logical. This is you caught up in your feelings because what, Well, don trump racist? All you want go on a date with it. Yeah, I don't give a damn by a man. In a racist I don't care that comes while it's unprovable. Yeah, I'm not going to fall into that trap. So somebody says Trump's a racist, they want me to try to defend that he's not a racist. I was saying, And what's your point. Does he make the trains run on time? Is he doing what I hired him to do? Is he closing the border? Well? Yeah? Is he trying to end these wars? Well? Yeah? Is he lawn taxis so? Yeah, Yeah, he's doing what I hired him to do. I don't want to go on a date with him. I want the plumber to fix my plumbing. Perfect. I want the guy who's fixing my car to fix my car. If we end up being friends afterwards, that's cool. But short of that, he does a job. I pay him the wage, we shake hands. We're fine. That's what the president's supposed to do for. You mentioned your family at the church with you, do you and maybe just step back a little bit. I've heard you mentioned your father, your mother. I haven't. Yeah, yes, by my mother down to cancer in twenty twelve. My mother, she had a beautiful singing voice. She was a real star of the group. Was her background back basically, yeah, mam Mama was a very beautiful woman. Her and dad got married in nineteen sixteen and stayed married until she passed on. He was holding hand when she passed away. Wow. And my mama was one of those, one of those the typical southern Mather's emotional loves her children. And my dad was that typical Southern man. Binary. Get the job done so or it's going to be hell to pay. And it was. It was an easy way to grow up because you knew the rules. Daddy said to he be his car back by ten o'clock. Yeah, amen, you have his car back before ten o'clock, and that ain't till on one. You might have it back at nine fifty five. Really, that's right, and if not, that's going to be hell to pay. I need the yard mode before five o'clock. I'm gonna be coming home. I want to see my yard mode, the yard better. I mean, your room needs to be clean. I don't want any great under a bee coming into this house. It was always these binary rules of growing up. You go to church on Sunday mornings unless you know that's it. You go to school every day. It was easy to grow up in that environment. It's not like it is now with gray areas. That's right. And so Dad was that type of guy. He was he was he was tough but fair yep, and now he's his lovable old grandfather. I said, what was that guy when I was growing up? Right? But he kept me alive. And that's one of the reasons why my brothers and sisters and I are so are so successful because we look at this world in this real binary way. Even when I do business, it's not too much of a gray area. Either you did it or you didn't. Sure, and if you didn't do it, you need to have a good excuse why you didn't do it. And of course we got common sense if there was a good reason for it. But life works better for me like that. And you know, but I just learned it from you playing football. So were you the only one in your family that was an athlete or no? Everybody in the family. All my brothers played. And as you know, when you learn in three part harmony and how to play instruments, everything's got to be right. Yeah, the harmony has to be right. Everybody's playing in the same court with the same beat. It has to go together. It's binary. When you play football, right, you break that huddle. Everybody has their role. You can't go out and do you what you want to do. It's you do what you're supposed to do. You do your job. And when we understand that, life is so easy. But now when you have this party that says do it thout wilt, there are no rules. So how do you break it? I mean when you see a city like Detroit or Chicago or Baltimore, Memphis. Yeah, I mean, how do you break that hold? What I found is that being binary. I've said it. The Democratic Party is an evil institution. People say, Vince an't you going to do far? No? No, Now it's Republican Party, good, Democrat bad, I said. I've said the Democrats are bad, Republican are neutral. The Democratic Party really wants to The Republican Party says, if you rise, your rise, if you do well, you do well. We're not going to stop you. Ain't gonna help you too much. But the Democrats say, we have a vested interest in making sure. That you fail. That's an amen. Yes, we want you have to stay poor for us to do well. Yes, you can't have a good educational system, you can't have an economic system. You have to stay afraid. We got to have drugs on the street because they're the ones that give us money we have for our campaigns. You have to have the unions, the teachers' unions and so because they give us money. So the Democrats this have this it's almost like a plantation plantation system plan. We can't educate our slaves because if we do, they won't be slaves anymore. We can't teach the Marina right, we can't give them too much hope the God to depend on us. And if we keep them that way, y'all, we can keep power forever. So lack the slave master. They have a vested interest in keeping their constituents very, very poor and dependent. The Republicans say, hey man, look, we are going to get at you. Wey will help you as much as we can, but you we're gonna have to go out there and make it on your own now, and if you make it, we're behind you. But we believe you're an American. We believe that the market and the incentives in the market are going to drive you to do great things. And it has worked. I mean, I remember reading about the Homestead Act. What did the Congress do, say, hey man, we got this new land from the wolve in Mexico and from Louisiana purchase. We need people settle on it. If you're willing to work for five years, we'll give you one hundred fifty acres, it's yours. And what happened, people from all over Europe started to coming to America. They didn't kill the land for them. No, no, they said it's out there, if you want it, you can have it if you're willing to work. And also they try to they forget that. They gather the gave that to the free slaves too. The freedmen had the same option. You can get one hundred and fifty acres of land if you willing to work it. You can use the land as collateral to get your mule and to get your tools. Go out there, build a life that was America, that was America. We can't hold your hand and make you do it. All we can do is provide the incentives for you to do it. That's the Republican Party. But the Democratic Party has a vested interest. They have a branchice that party. Kamala Harris starts her campaigning an abortioning clinic. Have a vested interest in killing people. They have a vested interest in this lgbt Q I a thing. And when we look at it, we know these children of dining up, these young men are dinabaides. We know that they're not having children. We know that right now Americans and a death spiral cost, we're not having any babies. The family have a vested interest and make sure the family is destroyed. If you leave your husband, we'll give you a section eight. We'll give you a wick if you got a baby and snap. If your children are growing up, we give you free medical care. I mean, hell while stay with them, you know we will. Well, well, we'll give everything you need to leave them. So now eighty five percent of the divorces in America called who no women? When you speak, first off, the truth, and this is why you have the following. This is why you have the standing ovations. People recognize the truth. Charlie Kirk, that's why his crowds were growing in twelve years, that he could have a memorial with seventy thousand people. Beautiful and beautiful me because it's the truth. Right. People attracted you because of the truth. Your family that's watching you on the stage in Memphis. You've got seven brothers and sisters. Do they all think like you or is there disagreements but you just go on in your what's your family's style like that. I had to bring them all over because, and they'll tell you this, they all voted for Obama the first time, and I went crazy on. I really went crazy on. And they'll tell you about the conflict, but my facts were so specific. And then when they saw him doing it, they said, oh my god, when they saw those rainbow colors on the White House after fail versus iges, I said told you, when they saw the type of anamssity that he calls in America after Trayvon Martin, and how he caused the race the racists to start fighting each other again. So I told you, when they saw what he did with what he did with Obamacare, that and and and and and and then my brother having his own business, saw so so uh, premiums and insurance just go sky high. So I told you, and they saw who he was. But the thing that really got them was when how he wanted an abortion, how he put abortion into Obamacare a BORSD. Then birth Control demanded that every insurance company had to carry it in their premium, put that in there. And then he put sex change operations in Obamacare that we now in the United States of America has subsidized sex change operations. And when he did that, they, for say, all of them, did the male couple, and they all came apologized to me, and all of them turned conservative overnight. My best friend is the exact same way. My best friend voted the first time and went, what in the world did we do? What do we do? We got shocked because he lied to everybody. And then when you and then when I showed it to them, and they said, oh my god, because they're Christian and they couldn't and they and they weren't going to vote against their conscience. But watching him run, they said, well, you know, he says he believe marriages me one man to one woman. I say, he's lying. Well that's what he said when they talked about the boy was above my pay grade. You know. I said, he's lying there. But then he came in and he did it. I said told you, and they all understood then. And now, man, my sisters are rougher than I am. Goodness, they can't they send me stuff from my podcast. They they they tell me they give me pinners all the time. No eventce you call them evil, don't give them no. See, that's what we haven't done. When when Rollo Reagan came out and said that the Soviet Union was evil empire, that's when we defeated them. Yes, when Abraham Lincoln came out and said that slavery was evil, that's when we took it down. When Churchill walked out and said that Hitler is evil, we stopped playing the political game and we took this thing and we and we and we made it binary. It becomes good against evil. And so when you look at the Democratic Party, we said, oh no, it's just you know, they are the loyal opposition. No, they're not. These suckers have let thirty million legals in this country. Man, they have an army, the United States of America, and then they give them sanctuary cities where they can come and they're going to feed them and clothe them and show up from until they activate them. And the community that gets hurt the most is the community that lives there, Black community, whether the housing shortage, the costs exactly. And Black people started seeing it and they bring them in there their spaces and you look at this and you say, dude, this is the equivalent of what we did to Nazi Germany during World War two. Great Uh, you know Hill that took over all of Europe and he hit Great Britain. Churchill ran him back, and then we came over to Great Britain and went across the English Channel invaded Europe. We invaded Great Britain. Then win they invaded Europe. Churchill told us, come over, I need your help. The Democrats have told these illegals, we need your help. And it's a long game that they've played. But they but they're but they're canty. These blue cities and blue states are bleeding citizens. The census counts people, not citizens, and we didn't know that until just recently Donald Trump sued them to try to say no citizens smend what says a man. Constitution says people. So if they get illegals up there, they get they get congressional districts. And because their cities are bleeding citizens and their citizens are coming down South a Tennessee and gaining congressional district South Carolina game one, I think Texas game like two or three, think Flowida game two. In California and Illinois and New York are losing those of them. Why they lose them. People are moving because the taxes and the crime, Yes, but then abortion, murder, prison, drug overdoses, people are dying. How do we get these people back? Illegal immigration, and they don't only just get congressional seats. If you get congressional seats, you get electoral college seats also, so they can determine the Congress and the presidency. And guys threatened Brian is the most amazing thing. These illegal got so much power They've made the Democrats shut down the government. The most powerful government in the history of the world is shut down because the illegal sold the Democrats. Un let's use destry health catch shut government down, and the Democrats did it. Brother, This is strange. When you got an alien force that has enough power to shut down the United States government. This is extra straordinarily frightening. Yes, and can hold us hostage until we give them trillions of dollars. God, we've talked about this before. I think the power that Trump brought when he was the outsider in twenty sixteen, because I think, I mean, maybe y'all saw it different, but when I first saw him on stage, Okay, is he is he joking? You know? Is you know. But then I think it was his first six months in office. That's when the light bulb went off in my head. That and this guy's changing more than just you're used to the guy just taking the reins, right, just making a few change guy. Yeah, he has legitimately changed the party that I've always been a part of. Two people who can speak, like you said, the truth back to the other side before you and I both know the GOP would have the Democrats ask. It was a junior party, lutely yes, and they and they were as happy as see Trump go as anybody was when when he was defeated. Believe me, a lot of them. Here's the thing now, and this is interesting. This is not just personal for Donald Trump. This is the bible for the Trump family. Trump knows if the Democrats ever get power again, they're coming out the baron, They're coming out to his children, They're coming out to his grandchildren. This is game of thrones. Now, you don't have in the Game of thrones. When you take power, you killed everybody. On the side for the children. And every choke. Yeah, man, he knows they coming. They are coming because they tried to get him. Y'all saw what was going on? How many ninety five charges on the man, four trials, one at the same time, trying to knock him out. They did everything to defeat Donald Trump, and he won. And Trump comes in and let the Jerry Ward January sixty guys out. He's driving them crazy. But Trump knows this, and this is why he's tearing up the underpinnings of the party, from the colleges and universities to the carte als to sell the dope on the streets, and and and and and from the Democratic Party through through through these k Street lobbies up in Washington. He's pulling up the underpinnings of the Democratic Party right now because he knows that if they get power, even when he goes back into these states now and this was just a master move and started drawing the Congression congressional districts before the census count I've never seen that before, but it was genius because he knows if they ever get power, the first thing we all know they're gonna do is try to impinch him. We know that's like they need to lie. They don't care if it doesn't pass in the Senate. They're gonna try to impeach him, and then if he's if he's still alive, they're gonna poly put those charges back on him again, the jack Smith charges and all of them. They're coming at him again. They're gonna try to push the James charges by. They're coming again. Trump knows it, and so he's saying, guys, this is saying about me right now. I got about three little over three more years ago. We got about three years to pull these guys up. Because they came at me. They're gonna come at my family, and they're gonna come at people like me and you. Yes, and they have the army here they want to activate it. And I'm telling you, the biggest mistake we make is believe that these people are not as evil as they are. What was it, the biggest trick theyll ever played, pull pull Little Mankind and make us believe he no longer existed. We don't believe these people are that evil. It's going to be hit in the Night of the Long Knives again. If they get bound, they're coming. Out, I really think. And that's it's funny you mentioned that because the whole No King's movement that they've done twice now with these charades that they've been putting out. Often you can tell what the Democrats do by what they say. Your side is doing them, yes, and they literally if they can gain power, You're going to find out what a king is. You thought Biden was before. They were going to say, well we just experienced that king, watch us be kings and you're going to see that. They're going to act like, hey, that we've been telling you that that's the way it's been, So we're going to do that. It'll be worse than ever. Yes, So how do you get Mandani? How does that take off? On their side? I'm gonna give him Dwiney money because he's gonna be the best foil we ever had. We want him to win. So people are gonna look at this and just see how how crazy they are, how insane they have gotten. But this is no longer with the Democratic Party of Johnny F. Kennedy. This is a Marxist party. You know. It started after the Civil rights movement. They tried to take it over in nineteen sixty eight, and you remember daily beat him up down in Chicago. They started screaming, the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching, and saul A. Lensky told them, you got three choices. Either go and find a whaling walling started crying, or start throwing bombs. You're gonna turn everybody over to the Republican Party, or come back in four years. And you bet the delegates they chose the third, and then came back in four years and went to Miami and they took over the party. And it was the first time that the party talked that had abortion on the plank, LGBT hell on the plank, all this crazy stuff. And Richard Nition destroyed them in that election. Well, they had something they did to Mixon what they tried to do to Trump. They put Watergate on it, got Nixon kicked out. Then Jimmy Cardy comes in after Jill Ford. As you know, America still rejected them because then we got in Ronald Reagan. And if George and George H. W. Bush hadn't been such a pansy, we probably still kept it. We wouldn't have to deal with Bill Clinton. But he came in, read my lips, no new taxis, and they kicked him out. But Reagan was you know, we had we had, we had Nixon, then we had Reagan and then we had Bush. Clinton comes in, George Bush the second everything Justice went on wrong in his you know, from nine to eleven Katrina to the housing crisis, so we never got a chance to see what he could do. And then when Barack Obama came in, that's when they did it. Patience and they got it. They got what they wanted. And Barack Obama slid in there and put in that conservative lgbt Q climate change racism, and the Democratic Party has been on that plank ever since. So what do we do. We have to show them. It's almost like during the Cold War, how do we beat the Russians? Not with moms. We showed the world that our ideals were better. They said what they said that Coca Cola, blue jeans and rock and roll beat the Soviet Union. They would look on TV andc US Americans just having a good time. And we have to show the world again. You guys got ghettos, We have suburbs. You guys have terrible government schools. We have great we have great choice. We have we have charters, we have private schools, and and and and I and I children get a great education. You have you have broken families, we have intact families out here. Yes, you have chaos and you have criminality. We have God and we have order. Young man, which life do you want to live? As a young man in Brownsville, Tennessee, I could watch the and understand which life I wanted to live, and I molded myself to live that life. We have to show them again that they can have that life in Americas. These young people in these young children want that life. We have to show them again. You tried the Swinger's life. You see what it got you. You tried government dependency, you see what it got you. You tried the gang bang of life and the hip hop life. You see what it got you come to this side. So if we do a comparison in contrast, you know, we talked about the American Dream going up. We boys watching it and said that's what I want. I want my house, I want my wife, I want my car, I want my children. And we all believe that if you just believed in the process, and the process still works. The Pure Research Center said, finish our school, don't have children till you over twenty one, to get married and work full time, you'll never ever be poored. In the States of America. That's the process. We have to start selling them on the process again. These children don't believe the process works for them. We have to tell them it does work. I promise you try it. It's almost like what we said about Jesus. Try Jesus, right, I promise you it'll work. And people like us have to go down and tell these children again, forget what the game bankers tell you, forget what Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the NAACP tells you. This process works. It has worked for me, it has worked for my brothers. Graduate high school, go to the military, Go get a trade, yes, go get a job, married before you carry, and you will live a great life in America. And we have to give them these binary tools again. No, you're not. You ain't supposed to be rich before your twenty one. You're not supposed to go out there. Everybody's not gonna be a rapper or a basketball player. Right. It's not gonna have the process, young man, the process, and we need to give them this process and tell them it works and you'll see it'll change. But we have not been able to give it because the legacy media has been controlling the narrative for far too long, and now with podcasts like yours and mine and others, we sell them on the process and sell them on America again. We're selling America again. I think that's what's exciting about the whole sending National Guard troops in to make cities safe. People were actually able to see on TikTok the appreciation that people on the street are living that they never would have gotten by the mainstream media or still won't give. The stream's so correct, but it. Gets on fire when you see how many. People talking on Instagram. You see it and like you said, we would have never seen it left to the legacy media. I played it last week. It was a guy that was on TikTok and he was just as rough as it could be. In fact, Brian couldn't stand that I brought it up because there was so much cuss on it. But the guy talked about why ends, which I don't know what that term. He talked about why ends, Yes, the young in words, and those guys need to be arrested as what that's just what has to happen. How do we get to those guys which you just mentioned, is that the examples like you just said, is I mean, what options do they have? I don't know. It's that whole culture. I don't know how to Brian and I have coached. I had three kids that I used to come down to Bedford to pick up to take to Lunchburg. We would talk about college. We would talk about what they could do with their lives. My son saw where they lived. We were in a white suburb area, but I wanted to see where they lived. So he had some appreciation about what we have for one thing, but he played with them elbow to elbow, sweat to sweat. Two of those kids, one of them has two kids already. Another one has kids, no marriage, no wife, no nothing like that. But the third one did go to college. I don't know how I could have done anything different. What is the difference between the one versus the other two doing the same thing. I don't know what happened. This is why I'm such an advocate for school choice. Yes, I think that you know, we all have some aige on us. I can remember reading about the times when they started making public education compulsory, and there were a lot of Southerners and a lot of mountain folks saying that boy don't need no more education than I got, And the sheriff will come and say that boy's going to school. Yeah, why we didn't make it compulsory. Everybody knew that those children's parents couldn't teach them because they weren't educating themselves. So the government came in and said, those children are going to go to school. Now, Bob, I don't care how you feel about it. It's the law. He going to go to school. We're going to educate him. Now, this boy is gonna have him. He's going to learn to read and write and count and science because we got plans for him right now. The ghettos are the same way. These parents are so dysfunctional and can't teach these children. Yes, but if you put together a school choice program where you send men like us down there, and we tell this mother with four children by four different men, ma'am, you want a better life for your child, don't you? Yes, I do. We gonna take your boys and educate them. We're gonna teach them how to be men. They're gonna need to go to the military, they're gonna have a trade, or they gonna go to college. But they gonna when they grow up. They're gonna be able to take care of you, and they're gonna be long. He's six years old and by the time he's eighteen, we're gonna make a man out of him. Yes, let us have it. It's not the government. We'll do it. That's why they hate school choice because they know that will happen organically. Churches. Men, we'll come and get those boys. Like those boys you talk about. You did your best, but you needed more time with them. We needed to catch them early year. We need to hold them account. It needs to be social pressure, you know, and you don't have boys. Our boys want to look up to someone and want to be proud of. And one that's a boy. Hell, we screwed up. We was going up and we had to look at dady, said Daddy, I'm sorry. But going to daddy and having said dadda, i'm sorry, showed what you wanted your dad's approval. Yes, when you walk up, okay what you say, but you want to your dad shamed man. I'm sorry, Bobs, And you knew better than that. Yes, I knew better. I do better. And even if you whooped you behind and punished you, you knew you were wrong, and you wanted to make your teammates held you accountable, your coach held you accountable. And these young men want to be held accountable, but the public educational system does not do it, and they have no motivation to do it. So that's why I'm such an advocate for school choice, because I believe it will open up an opportunity for a lot of good men to open up schools in these inner cities. And when they do it, miracles happened. Y'all heard about what happened down in New Orleans and what's going on in Mississippi right now. Miracles are happening with school choice. Hurricane Katrina came through taught New Orleans. Every school was taught, and they wanted and they needed money to rebuild the system. Well, Republicans were running the state House in Louisiana and they said, we are not going to give you a die unless you put school choice in the New Orleans. We want charters and we want vouchers, and we want private schools. They had to agree to it. They fired like seventeen hundred teachers, built it up, made up more efficient. New Orleans now has one of the best educational as systems in the whole United States of America. Even the Washington Post at the twenty fifth anniversary a hurricane Katrent had to call it a miracle in New Orleans. A hurricane had to happen, but it happened. Mississippi was at the bottom of education in America. Mississippi now is in like the top ten. You know why, school choice. Yes, they've said, Look, man, they were at the bottom. The Conservatives took over, gave choice. They ain't just giving choice to white children. All of them get the choice. It's like you want to call conservative racists, right, you said, well, when you say I'm pro life, you're not a board and black children either, And if we're more concerned about that, and it looked like the Democrats are. We're trying to say black children from dying when you can get into the inner city, that's who's dying. And we're down there trying to save those children. We're trying to get those children to get education. Why because our children don't get a good education. Yes, they're going to go to a private school, they're going to go to a suburban school. We're trying to help you. Why because that's the Christian way of life. That's the American way. And so we fight for these things not so much to help us, but help our neighbor, to love our neighbor. And I believe the school choice taking these children away from the public educational system because we found out what they've been doing, sexually grooming these children, putting point in the libraries, bringing drag queens in, not educating them, a genderlu flu fluidity, and we're wondering why these children are coming out of school crazy. Yes, we found we found out now. So because we found out how this functional they are, the school choice movement is getting more and more powerful and more and more conservative. Statement, Florida got a great school choice for a program going out there right now. But probably the quickest way to fix public education is school choice. Correct enough people leave it, you'll finally start focusing on how the heck did we get it. It'll be just like the postal service when fair X and ups came in that the Postal Service in the United States of America went thinking about doing anything overnight. They didn't have to. But then when fair X came in and started doing things overnight, they had to up their game or they were losing customers. And now they're and and now they're competing. But they know this. The teachers unions don't want to lose their power. They control the Democratic Party and they control the amount of money that they get. Brandon Johnson's about to go broke up in Chicago now because the teachers unions that you're going to keep your word to us. And he's given these teachers these big time raises. The children still not learning freaking thing. But they take care of these teachers. The teachers give them ninety nine percent nine nine percent of the teachers union and contributions go to the Democratic Party and they keep these And you don't have one school up in Baltimore that's fluid in math, science or reading, but yet the superintendent gets paid for in the thousand. Dollars a year. That's the crazy just and these. Teachers are getting in town of Washington, DC, the average income for school chies is almost six figures. Now. Wow. And just like unions, what the unions do they want to do? They want to get the most amount of pay for what the least amount of work. Yeah, and that's what. We touched on that a little bit here where we did a little bit of a study on the school system here in Bedford County over a fifteen year period, they had lost combined with all three schools, around nine hundred students. And when you start digging into it, you also find that in that same period of time, the central office administration expanded and teachers expanded. Yeah, they kept the money. Now, I said, now, wait a minute, in business, if I lost nine hundred, you know, over a period of third years more vice presidents, it is, I'm not hiring more workers. But that's what's happening in our public school system. And they they if the child left and the money went with that child. They straightened up that if the child leaves, the money stays with them, so there's no incentive to change, and they can always and go up the capitol. He'll pay some campaign contributions, then they can get a raise. So that's the problem that we have. And you know, people like us are talking about it, and we're educating people about it, and people are getting it finally. But again with the legacy media, they weren't saying anything about this at all. Now we're talking about it. One of the things that you know, I always ask these people in the media is that I haven't seen a good news report yet on holding the Democratic Party responsible for the inner cities of America. I haven't seen you guys go down there and stay and ask the Democratic Party, how can you justify Detroit? How can you justify y'all? They want to go down and tell you about how bad it is, but they won't say the Democratic Party is in charge down here, and so they'll say, Oh, it's racism, or it's it's systemic racism, or it's lack of opportunity, all this all that. He said, No, the Democratic Party is a Marxist political party, and they don't any state understand anything about economics itself use it as a tool for control. Yes, it's not. And when you look at you know, during the Civil Rights Movement, I was reading this book by Taylor Branch. It's called American in the King Years. It's a great book. Taylor Branch won the Policer Prize for this book. He's a liberal. He was Bill Clinton's roommate at Yale. So at the beginning of this book, talking about the Civil rights movement, he said that in nineteen fifty six, the communists who had invaded the Civil rights movement had infiltrated. It was given a command and a directive from the common turn in Russia. They wanted to take the black community and make it a direct replica of the Soviet Bloc. That's what they've done. He's inner cities by direct replicas of the old Soviet Union. Apostate really, religion, dictator worship, you know, just one party rule, dictator worship, poverty, substance abuse, loyalty to the state. And they've done this and politicians have allowed this to happen as long as they can go up to Washington to make deals. So when it comes time for an election, the Republican Party will not put any money behind any conservative candidate, black or white. They'll go in there and try to politic so the people never hear the truth. The first time they've heard the truth is in maybe the last five years, when we've been able to come on our podcast and do this, and I've been so amazed to find that so many people, black and white, people have read my books, They've shared my books, My podcasts are being shared. This is why I'm so raw on my podcast. You have to be able to get through the noise, and there is an aggression down in the inner city that they respect. Yeah. They the biggest problem we've always had with quote unquote Black conservatives, that they were all kind of too bookish to Ivory Tower, and the guys down in the hood wouldn't give them any respect whatever or listen to them. They loved Malcolm Max. You know, Malcolm wore tie everywhere he went in a suit because Malcolm still had that grit about it. You know. One of the ways that I'm able to get through them is the same thing. I go down there and I deal with them as a man, and I have taken Christianity, and I call it through Christianity, because you mean a Christian. You know, Jesus wasn't no punk, that's right, But they try to portray him as one soft spoken and easy like a hippie smoking weed. Right, That wasn't him. Martin Luther King Jr. Came out and said that Jesus was nonviolent. Christianity is not a religion of non violence. It's a religion of no aggression. It's no virtue in us leaving tonight and seeing a young girl going out there getting a costans seeing somebody grabb me. I'm gonna try to put it in the car and we said, well, we can't do that because we're Christian man, we're not violid. No, no, we gonna grab the gud, We're gonna whoop until he stopped fighting and called the police and turn him in. It's not virtue. And you guys going home tonight, somebody breaking your house tonight, try to harm your wife and your children. You say, well, we're Christian man, we're not violid. That's a lie. Yeah. So they convinced these young men to be a Christian you have to be like that, and they rejected it. Malcolm comes in with this native of Islam stuff and even though it was a lie, he did tell them you have a right to be a man. And these young men responded to this when I go up to them and I tell them, no, no, young man, you have a right to be a man. You have a right to defend yourself in Christianity. You know you want to talk about racism, Well you're trying to tell me and this is me oways racism. Yeah, trying to me to the white man. You know you down. Then he has stopped. He can't hold me down. Yeah, Now you're telling me hold every bait. Wait wait, you spoke to me, this big, tough, strong black guy, and you said that the white man can hold you down. I'm bruh, no wonder. You ain't got no woman, then you ain't married, and then see they have to deal with this so hold of height. So you're trying to tell me the only way you can make it is that this white man got to let you make it. It's like going on the basketball court and that's hill spot you twenty points. That's the game you play it. Brother, you asked him like you're a punk. I'm just gonna tell you because the brothers I know, we don't need that. I don't need the Ei man. I got put on the the Southern Party lost in this hate list with Charlie Kirk because I did a speech for tv USA and I said that any one of you little I was college campus children. Talk to them as any one of y'all come up to me and my brothers with a d e I written on your chest and you walk to our world, I'm gonna slit your throat. And they said, oh, that's hate speech. I said, man, that's a matter for okay. Quit custing your pearls. You know, well, I play football, right the coaches son come out on that field, and you know he didn't earn it. You start salivating, Man, were gonna tell him? Yes? And we because you didn't earn it? Right? And that said, it's the same thing they setting you guys up to fail. You have to earn it, and when you earn it, you get the respect of men. We've seen too many movies of these two men that hate each other and then they end up being friends because throughout the trials and tribulations they earned each other's respect. There's a human element involved in it here, and they're taking that away from you. Yes, you have to earn it. And I said, so you telling me you can't earn it? Yeah, I canna earn it. What are we talking about it? I always use that psychology with them when it's not talking about racism white supremacy. Man, You know that flip side of white supremacy. Bro is a black infilureity. You say in your inferior no, I ain't a failure. Why are we discussing that? What they got? The system shakes whe The Democratic Party control all the systems in the black community. Why you're still voting for them, right, Wow, you got a plantation mine. That's the conversation I never lose. The insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different results. You've been doing the same things between and fifty years. Brother, you crazy as hell, and they respond to it. I always go back to what they do. I don't ever let them get off the hook. I don't go in arguing about crime or you need to ually get a job and cli up your own community. No, I talk about how can you sit in front of me and tell me that you are a man and at the same time tell me to your inferior, how can you tell me you are a Christian? And that's one of the first questions to You're a Christian? Yeah, I'm a Christian. You believe in Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's your father. Yes, he'll take care of you abound all your needs. Yeah, while you're begging, ye, take as much time as you need on that one. Bro. You know you've touched on something here that Brian and I have talked about in the past. Because we talk with a question, we have no answer, and I'd love to get your thought on this. What has happened in the last twenty to twenty five years for a disregard of life amongst young men. We watch shows where or news stories and there's just a death, a shot to kill someone. I'm going back to my coaching, but one of the kids that I coach from, you see Glass just recently is playing a video game with a headset on in Bedford Avenue in Lynchburg. In the middle of the video game, someone walked into his house and executed him from behind. What I mean this kid played with my son. I mean, I just literally, what is it? What is it that has happened that we could actually take someone's life when even if it is raised by a mother, they love their moms, Their moms loved them. There is love in that house. What is it that they lose to kill someone else. It's a pandemic wants ties. Don't talk about a systemic problem. That's a systemic problem. We actually do have. What what's going on? The great writer Thomas Wolfe said that culture is the arts elevated to a set of beliefs. Whatever the arts are, it will become your culture. We learn from the arts culture. Your culture is the arts elevated to a set of beliefs. This is why John Adams said after they did the Constitution, Our constitution is designed for a moral and religious people. Is adequate in any other And for the first one hundred and fifty it is this country. The church is controlled education. The founding fathers little bemit Gas to think the government was educating its citizens. Are No, not government. Why that's that's Marxism, the government educating its citizens. No, the freedom of religion was the first freedom because we our religion was going to teach us how to lift together. Our religion was a teach us what type of government we should have. So what did John Locke say in the Second Treatise of Government? He said that our rights are unabilable rights give them to us by whom God. Yes, they are irrevocable, non transferable, and unsellable. You can't take them away. Jefferson read that and put it in our Declaration of Independence. And yet you've got a sitting senator in Virginia who recently said that your rights come from the government. Come from the government. And it was a higher law, as Suart said the Center of New York, we have a higher law than the Constitution. Those higher laws led us to the thirteenth fourteenth, fifteenth Amendment. The higher law when we as men look at our Bible and say does it match? And when it does it we got to change it. Yes, because it's the higher law that always matters. What is our higher law? Our religion? So what happened our religion was called We all know about the Abolitionist movement and how it led to the Republican Party and the Abolitioners movement. Candy's ideas from christian entity and everything that we've done that's been good in America came from Christianity. Everything came from Christianity. So now what did they do? Double is Candy? He took a culture. And I remember when hip hop music came out, Yes, and I started hearing you and I you know, when I was in my late twenties, so it didn't really have an effect on me. But I said, man, children hear this stuff. They have no reference to other music. I mean, how's this going to affect them? This is terrible stuff. Want to kill a N word? And now we see the results of it thirty something years later. Yeah, a savage culture where we and I know he liked like you guys, I've watched this in horror. The black community is the only community that defines itself as us negative terms. What's up? N word, what's up? B, what's up? W? Put it into music. We never heard such a thing before. We talked. We did rock and roll and Evans talked about about the most violent thing you ever heard was on seve on My Blue Sways Shoes Man, most violence ever come out of rock and roll was talking about killing people, selling dope, shooting police, raping women, calling uh black women, the B word, the W word. You got black women on there. Kamala Harris brings these nasty people and have them campaign for her. Ronald Reagan would have never bought a plant, and and and and the guy from what's his name, the guy that did Playboy magazine? You know. What about them to the White House. Now we had Biden and Kamala Harris actually having Carni b Sexy red. Glow Reller. Show this year for the NFL. Thank you, y'all, Blue whatever they have, whatever the heck it is, they have taken the culture and the culture the arts have become the culture. That's why even when you talk about the arts, martial arts, but teaching somebody how to fight oratory is an art. DBDs art. What we're doing now as an art form because we're teaching people, entertaining people. It's art and the art have become completely fractured and immoral in the inner city. And I saw it coming. But I'm thinking, like you know, we were all thinking when were younger, Well, they gonna take this stuff and do what they do with porno magazines. They're gonna put some plastic on it and put it in the back somewhere and raise taxes on it to a point where it becomes we can't buy it. Well, these suck as started making so much money that they started paying off politicians. Yep. They first started paying off the black organizations that were coming out against them. The NAACP started getting money from these these record companies that were selling the rap music and the things to wrap and they they shut up. Then when they shut up, they started giving money to the politicians. And they saying, you know, this stuff is all over the place and children are hearing the most vile, terrible stuff. I remember watching the movie Slim Blade, and Slim bladele to you shouldn't be talking like that. You're just the boy. You shouldn't be seeing these things. You just the boy slim Blade had enough sense. No, there's certain things children shouldn't see. That's exactly right. And we all knew that growing up. Our parents would hide our eyes if somebody kissed them. Told me that they knew that. There's gonna be a time when you can see this. But right now in your mind can't deal with it. They are showing these children this stuff that and doctor nadingam now to give them such education classes on jender fluindity when they're five, six, seven years old. In thats own purpose, you know, when we know that children should be wired up at that time to try to please God. They won't let them pray, won't let them have a Bible, won't let them even do a prayer for lunch. Oh, but they'll bring lgbt Q and drag queens in front of them. And that's where it's come from. This this violence, this this, this, this sexual degeneracy, the anger, the the putting society on top of his head backwards. Everything that we saw is virtuous and good. They frowned upon. If you are forgiving your week, but if you kill it, n word, you are you know, jokers brag about going to jail. They do rap videos of jokes any penitentiary and like it's a hard life. You know, it's the most insane culture ever. And right now, Black men in America are the most violent subculture in the world, not in America, in the world. Black women in America the most pubiscuous subculture in the world. It is a dystopia and the Democratic Party forced to be ahead instead of damning this. Kamala Harris has the nerve to bring these people on the campaign trail with her telling every young person watching her, this is a paradigmic virtue. This is who you should be, this is what you want to be in America, and little children watching her unless the parent is in that ear telling them this is a lie, this is wrong. We'll look at that and say, okay, it makes sense to me. So we have to again, Brothers and I there's so much money behind this, that's it's so much. The only thing that we can do, and I don't know, is get the Supreme Court or get the government to start calling this up obscenity. Finding the way to use the FCC to keep it off of the airwaves. Well, we had that fight earlier in the eighties like you did. Yeah, we have to bring it back. We have to start giving empirical evidence that this is the strowing society. There is no redeeming value in it. It's poison. I'll tell you. There's another one right there along with it. And I don't know why there hasn't been research about the murderers that have been assassins, but how many of them play video games where can actually blow somebody's head off? And you can recall that debate when we were back then, when they were coming. I was in you're creating a generation of monsters. Now we're seeing it. And of course these children know nothing about that debate, but we remember those debates. We also had that same debate when they started talking about gay marriage and all this kind of stuff. We said, you're going to end up what they wanted to have domestic partnerships, and everybody was arguing about it, and we were telling them this is going to end up being gay marriaged. The crazy They're not gonna be a gay man gay marriages in Santitay. I'm telling you, it's the drip, drip, drip, It's the frog in the hot water, and soon a later America becomes desensitized and then we have to do a serious correction. And this is where we are. But one of the things we're gonna have to do when one of the most serious corrections we got to do is dealing with this culture, the arts that elevate this violent culture. And I can tell you, brother, I believe that that is the primary driver of it. The sickond music that they're listening to, and the fact that the educational system not only doesn't counter it, they are immersed with it. Also go to some of these school and in the cities and they got these people up on the walls as heroes. Oh wow, Yeah, it's so that's the problem. You know, you said something and you're talking to two guys that kind of like Tucker, we grew up in a little different way, although I grew up in a rough neighborhood myself. But I don't know what you're saying that some of the stuff that you're saying. And you said something before and like you say it here too. What music do you suggest you listen You did gospel tours. What music do you suggest that people could listen to? Because I actually wrote that down in one of your interviews and added to Spotify because I want to start listening to that myself. So just on this podcast, what would you recommend people to have their kids listen to. I'm gonna tell you something. You guys are gonna laugh. I have a daughter. She has turned seventeen, and I listened to so much good old music. She was into the Beatles. And she called me and said, Daddy, Paul McCartney is touring America and this is only his last tour. He's eighty three years old. You have to take me to see Paul McCartney. I said, baby, like you now? She said yes, went in call tickets. Tickets about fifteen hundred dollars. Good lord, and the closest place is Atlanta. I said, you really want to go see Paul McCarty Dead Bay? She said, Daddy, the Beatles are going to be done after this. And I I've grown up on the Beatles and I got to see the Beatles. I said, Okay, we're going to see Paul McCartney. I was so happy. My daughter didn't want to go see Sexy re Ed or some rapper. She wanted to go see the Beatles. That's beautiful. And that's because all her life, that's the move that's the music I played for the old classics didn't play that crap in my house. She listened to music, but it was the good classics and the and so I listened to gospel music a lot. I listened to Oh my Goodness. I listened to the old Jackson Southernnayers. I listened to a whole lot of old Motown music. I listened to Elvis. I'm I'm from Memphis, so you know, I got to love Elvis, right, Elvis is the only guy that you can have a crush on, and I'd be gay, right, I love Elvis. We listen and I just listened to the gospel choirs. I listened to Tashakabb Leonard, I listened to the old Jackson Southernaires. I listened to the William Brothers. This stuff just never gets old. It's old gospel music, and it's the best music in the world. Even Elvis would pull up with a gospel song every now and again. Aretha Franklin. The gospel, old Motown stuff was just it was great. And you know what, and that bought black and white people together more than anything. We listened to the same music when we were young and white people like Motown, we liked Elvis and it all just it bought us together as a community. The music did and it was good music. You danced to it. It was happy music. I was showing her. They were showing the war in Ukraine, and they showed this bombed out place, and it showed this these people in this village, and it's telling the story. The person was timing it was taking it. This woman was sitting there and everybody was sad, and she put on a song by the Beatles. So when I saw her standing there and everybody got them started climbing and started dancing. I said, that's the Beatles. That's what it does to you. It's just happy. Yeah, I shoot nobody, it's out about killing anybody. But those people started. Hitting the Beatles, just started clapping their foot and just started getting happy because it reminded them of a time we we That's the music that I listened to. I listened to old music, the good stuff, the classics. I try to strain through the new stuff. A lot of it is not good. But I listened to Aretha Franklin, the old Moltown stuff, the old gospel stuff, Elvis and Johnny Cash and I love it and I listened to it every single solitary day. And my daughter, you know, and my children grew up on it. And when she says she wanted to go see the Beatles, I said, all, I've done pretty good with you and she and she hasn't. She doesn't play that nasty garbage rap stuff. But again, parents let their children hear it. It bleeds into their homes through these things. Yes, And I said, it's like when God was walking through the garden after the Satan had tempted Adam and even calls him the sand. And when God was walking through the garden, Adam was hiding because he knew it was naked and God was looking for Adam, and he said, Adam, where are you? And Adam said, well, I'm hiding. He said, why A you're hiding? He said, I'm naked, And he said who told you you were naked? Who told you you were naked? And you walk into your child's room and they're crying, So what's wrong? So I think I'm transgender? Who told you was transgender? I didn't tell I didn't tell you you were Who told you that? I think I'm not embarrasing who told her you were non binary? Where'd you get that from? A snake has got into your garden. They come in through this, Yes, they come in through. The TV. They come in through the educational system. And you educated your children, right, you've told to them and something. I know they've gotten these crazy You know, you come in and your child is, oh, deed on feannel? Where'd you get those pills? I didn't get them for you. This is the danger we're in now. We we got into a place where you know, when we were growing up with you had one TV and it was in the family room. The mom and daddy sat down there and she and they they knew everything he was looking at yeah, and they had to sign off on it. And my dad had this rule we get to argue, and said you got to agree. I'm gonna turn the thing off, and we had to sit down and agree about what we were going to watch. Now every child got this oh yes, and they're looking at it and you don't know what they're looking at. And these dirty satanic people send that stuff to these children. And before we catch it, the serpent is in the garden. And you said, oh, my God, you know, it's really cool you said this, because this is a self thing that I noticed this weekend. So my girlfriend's sons are a senior and a freshman in high school, and we're having dinner with their their grand parents, and while we're at the table, they're doing what they always do. They're in the phone and they're both laughing at the phone. Both grandparents, the grandfather and then the grandmother. Later both said what are you looking at if you're laughing. One of the grandfather said, if you're laughing that hard, let me see what's so funny. I was like, that's they still parent. They're still parenting. They're still parent I was like, that is it was beautiful. I just watch there's still those parents. And that's we've we've gotten lazy with it. We've let these things the parents. Yeah, it's convenient because we can go do what we wanted to do. They snuck it in on us. Yeah, and then and now they've convinced us, you know, racism and everything else, you can't make it in America. And we're all the guys looking back. I thought you were saying, we thought we were done with this stuff. I mean, hell, we got along better than these children now, right, And we we came in, we were like the first class after the segregation. They and we went to school together, played football together. They have no race rise and nothing at the school. And we're looking at them to generations down. And you guys are acting like y'all arguing and fighting much worse than we ever did. It's confusing to me. But now that we know how they work it, our understand it and we have the ability now and again, guys, one of the most disappointing parts of it now, I mean, the Black church has really gotten bad with it. And I've said this on my should I said here, the concept of the black church is archaic. It shouldn't have to exist any longer. The white church doesn't exist any longer. It's one church, the Church of Jesus Christ. We've finally gotten beyond that. You're not going to go. Into any church around here, whether it be mostly white or mostly black, and have somebody turn you around because the color of your skin. It is just not gonna happen. That's correct, and so the whole concept of the black church, and they need to keep that because the black church is part of the mechanism of the Democratic Party. It's part of how they maintain control. And my father told me as I said, he had an e ran a radio station, a black well black Goth's radio station, and he did a lot of business with black ministers because of his singing in black churches and the business that he did with the black radio stations. I ran for Congress in two thousand against Jim Clyman down in South Carolina, and I went to see my yeah, and I went down to talk to my dad about it. And Dad told me something never will forget it. I have it quoted in my book. And Dad said, all right, sign listen, he said, you get being ready to get involved in politics. Now, he said, all your life, I've taught you to revere the church, not the pastor of the church. And I've told you believe in God. He said, but you listen to me. And my dad grabbed me by my arm and looked at me, and right now, he said, you listen to me. He said, you trust a bootlegger before you trust a black preacher. And he was as stern and as serious as he had ever been. And it's like you said, you hear me, He said, the worst people walking the face of this earth. You don't believe them, don't trust them, you cannot trust him. And it has never been a true statement. My father will ever throw it. Wow the fact and it goes all the way back, y'all. MLK when I discovered the man wasn't even a Christian by our definition, didn't believe in the deity of Christ, didn't believe in the virgin birth, then believe in the resurrection, didn't believe that Hell was a real place. And I'm saying this was he's not a Christian. And then when you look at his lifestyle, the fact that the guy had forty five girlfriends, got involved in orgies up to twenty people that the SELC was started by a Communist by the name is Stanley Levinson and be at ruston. His lawyer was Clarence Jones. He was a Communist. The guy that ran the SELC, his name was Hunter pitts Odell. He was a Communist. JFK talked to him face to face, Bobby Kennedy too and told him, look, man, you're infiltrated by communists. Hear their names. Get him out. He said he would. Jago Hoover found out that he didn't told Bobby Kennedy. I thought he was supposed to cut these guys loose. Bobby Kennedy, he said, well, put the wiretaps on him because we can't trust him. Wow. And that's how the wire tap started. And this is where all the stuff about his orgies and stuff came in. But here's interesting, this is interesting. They said that Jago Hoover wanted to Detroy ma All Luther King Jr. Right, these files didn't come out until these idiots they broke into an FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania in nineteen seventy one on the evel of the Joe Fraser Muhammad Ali fight, and they stole the corn tail profiles and gave him to the Washington Post and the New York Times. And that's how King's just came out. It wasn't Hoover. Hoover kept them secret. And so people started saying, well, he tried to put them out, but nobody would print it. Hell the printed him in nineteen seventy one. Yeah, if they weren't going to Premida went to front of them, then Hoover's job was to make sure more than anything, King was a Once they were riding and He didn't want him compromised or hurt. Wow, they said LBJ and the Kennedys make sure yards will feel it. It's his cat now. If he goes down, we go down. This is why he believed he could do anything he wanted. They told him, you're protective. So King was at there was He was resputing cocaine running women. The night before he died at the Raine motel, slept with two women that night and beat up another one. I mean he was a wild man. He wasn't a good person, and his message to black people was trash walking around in his I have a Dream speech, saying five times in the speech we were not free. Well, we've just talked about our freedom is and the able right given us by God. He talked about, you know, one hundred years after the Masturpation Proclamation, that Negro is still not free. I was born free, telling me I got to go to government for my freedom. You don't go to government for your freedom. You deny government to come and take it from you. That's why you have the Second Amendment. You don't give me my freedom. So if the government walks up to me and says, Vince you free, I'm like, hell, I know. What, yeah, and. I've always had it. That's I say. You want me to advent that that card that's yours? I know? So what in the Civil Rights Act that got you free? I was born free and they want us to still believe that we were freed by the Civil Rights Act. Even at the end of the speech, what he says, on some certain that you be free at last, free air last snak God on't ning free at last. I'm already free, doc, thank you. Then he walked around. He said, when will we be satisfied? We will never be satisfied dot until Righteouness rolls down like water, and justice rolls down like water, and righteousness like a mighty stream. Right. That's a fast way of saying never. Yeah, that's trusky. Never satisfied, continuous revolution. Sixty years later, still doing the. Same thing, never satisfied. What did our Bible tells us, y'all? Jesus said in my peace I leave with you. I'll give you peace that transcends all understanding. Even when he said, I'm dreaming by the day that I won't be judged by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character. Why I couldn't leave the color of my skin out, you know, because all your life it makes you think that something wrong with the color of your skin. And I say, okay, here it is. I'm not gonna walk around apologizing for being black. If you got a problem with me being black, that's your problem. If I love you, you don't have to love me. But I was told by God I got to love you, and I do. And if you got a problem with me being black, that's your problem. But underestimate me at your peril. Yep. I'm not going to bed for your septance. I'm going to work for everything I get and me walking around here thinks something wrong with the color of my skin? You know, you only have to apologize or something that you're ashamed of. Right, that's right. So when you say I want to be judged by the content of my character, let me tell you some player. You will be judged by the content of your character. It's unaboidable. That's the big lie. You will never judge by the color of your skin. You're always judged by your character, even when you look at Martin Luther King Jr. Ivy Leage Education, No Bare Prize, Time Magazine man of the Year, had a cadid anil Rolexes, watch mad a beautiful woman, never pour a damned his life into private schools his whole life. His daddy sent him to an ivy League school. What is he complaining about? He fulls on top of it because some white folks didn't like him. What was Jesus Christ saying about that? You're not supposed to be worried about man? Son? Now I satisfied with you, because we all know our Bible. If you go to please man, what are you doing? You sit in the trap. Yep, it's a snare. That's why black people at the bottom of every social economic statistic in America. Right now, we're still going out there trying to please man. At the end of the iron triangle, I wrote, I write in last chapter Short Chapters, epilogue. My dad tells me this story about my great grandfather. His name is Ivy Bond, and we called him Big Daddy. Big Daddy had fourteen children, had his own property. He was he was something I knew himen. He was old, but he was he was something. My mother always told me that Big Daddy didn't play, and everybody respected it. But I saw that I knew him, and I was I was a big boy when he died about fifteen, sixteen years old. But my dad tells me this story. He said that the nineteen sixty five, it was nineteen sixty five. The Civil Rights Act had passed, so they took down the whack to only signs, Black only signs. And he took Big Daddy to a bus station, the bus station to catch a bus. Big Daddy lived there and segregated South his whole life, so he automatically went to the colored side. It was just automatic for him. And my father stood on the white side, said, miss Ivy Messing the Ivory Bard, you ain't have to set it on the color side no more. You can come on the white side if you want to. Daddy said there proudly, and he said that. Big Dad looked over and said so now. He said, yes, sir. He said, I'm gonna walking over this. He had the floor walks, he said, Big Daddy walked over there, walked across the floor, rocked it back and forth, walked across the in walked back and forth and looked at that and said, you don't want no difference, huh, And walked over and sat back down on the colored side. Oh wow. The marvel of that story was Big Daddy was saying, they've been trying to tell you for years. Boy today had something better than you, and they don't different. You don't want no different, dere floint, no better than yours. Why are you fighting to be somewhere where you ain't want it? It's against the Christian ethic. You don't use co wordsion. The eleven people the Book of Corinthians said will never enter the kingdom of heaven. And the last one is the extortioner? Yeah, who is he? The one that used threats coercion to get what he wants? What was the Civil rights movement? It was an extortion. It wasn't King going up changing the hearts. Yeah, of his brothers and sisters like that was a lot of good white folks down down south. If you want to change the hearts of the bad on, wasn't. Billy Graham told King that's still a revival. Together me and you, we can change the hearts of the South. King turned him down. King wanted to use the law, and Billy Graham was telling them, Martin, we got to change the hearts of people. Billy Graham always had those integrated revivals. We watched them growing up, right. Mama and my grandmother and granddad had a old black and white TV. They watched two things on it, wrestling and Billy Green. And then when Billy Graham was all and I used to watch them, and it was just magical. And he would say, come ye, it'd be a staining full of people as it come to Christ. And Billy Graham did not go up in march one time in Washington, didn't actual for one law to be passed and say more sous than Martinus King Junior every did. He never called people to Christ. One time he wanted to use the gun uses old uh this U. And when I make this point, the black people had always shut him up when I told him. King was not a non violent man. So a rights movement was not non violentce it was violence everywhere they went. They went to the Highland of Folks school to learn how to do it. In America, they would speak non violence, and then they'd have communist operatives come in and cause violence. Well, while there's talking nine violence and this is where the violence came from, burning up the cities and whatnot in the riots. So I talk about the Godfather, My Godfather Ficionado. And from one of the first scenes of Godfather, Michael Corleone is sitting there with Kate Godfather Part one. He sees big lucal Brozie sitting there talking to herself, and Kate said, Michael, who is that scary man, Because it's a very scary man. There's Luca Brosie. He said, le me tell you a story about Luca. He said, Uh, father has a god god son by the name of Johnny Fontaine. Johnny is a singer. He had a contract with his band leader. Johnny wanted to get out of the contract to be a movie started. The band leader said no, so he asked my father to fix it. He said, my father into the band leader offered him ten thousand dollars let Johnny out of the contract. Bad leader said no. My father said he'll be back. But this time my daddy came back with Luca Brozie and he got Johnny out of the contract for a certy five check for one thousand dollars. She Mike out of see you do that as a Luca Rosie put a gun to the man's head and said that either his brains or his censure will be on the contract. True. Sorry, I said that was Vito Collion a violent man for using violence. You look about Rosie's violence, violence of the third party to get what he wanted. Everybody says, yes, that's okay. Martin Luther King Jr. Won't see it. The Hamburger at a lunch corn count white man says no. Martl Luther King Junior said I'll be back, and this time he gets the law passed and he brings a fellow government freer government, puts a gun to the guy's head and says, either you either Martin Luther King Jr. Or your brain is gonna be eating hamburg on this counter. Was Martin Luther King Junior a violet man for using the gun get what he wanted? People out to say, yeah, I said he used violence because the Christian way, that Jesus christ way change the hearts. He never used rome and he never told his disciples go march, go beg Caesar to get what you want. Go on no streets. Change these people's hearts, change their minds, and that's how we change the world. The reason why we still all have all this racial animosity right now in America house, we tried to use the law. It is the job of the church to do it. Yes, And it's our job to go out and talk to one another and stop going to the law. Like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, all they do is march and complain and tell the Black community that they owed something from America. Where before nineteen did you know that before nineteen fifty black people even call themselves African Americans, They call themselves Americans. They bought this, This whole civil rights movement bought this, the class system and the racial division into America. You look at the arts and the movies and the songs for the Civil Rights movement. Black people saw my going to war and fighting for ward and where Americans And it wasn't a the white man is keeping. It wasn't any of that. It was a whole different mindset about who we were. And between nineteen forty and nineteen sixty, the black community had the greatest reduction in poverty and the history of the world, from eighty percent to thirty percent in twenty years. The black family was intact. We had eighty or seven children been born in been born to two parent families. Nobody was going to prison. In jail, there wasn't any drug abuse aids. And then this old Rice movement came in and toltal Free were victims, and the Marxists had need of us, and Martin Luther King Jior and civil rights movement turned it over to him. So when I can go into the black community and make this argument, they get it. There's gonna be some of the old folks are gonna try to make you know, but the young people, they get it. And this is why me doing this has had such an impact. I can do math, and I knew that Trump lost that last election by about forty one thousand votes in seven states, mostly in inner city. And if we can change, if we could change a few thousand votes in the inner city, he becomes president again. And we did it. Yes, we changed Milwaukee, we changed Detroit, we changed Atlanta, we changed Charlotte. We went into those inner cities. We changed Philadelphia. And I watched my numbers and I knew whether people were watching, and that's why they were watching. They were watching in these inner cities and people were sharing, and people were talking, and people were and people send me comments and events. You've changed my life. You've changed my mind. I didn't know. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And when we watched that night, I was down in Fort Lauderdale with Patrick Bett, David and y'all should have been there. It was like twenty thousand people. He had, boy, he had a VIP section twenty five thousand dollars super VLP to get up in there. And so but since I was there as his guest, I was up in there. I was on the stage with Candas Horns and Dave Smith. It was hot up there. Man, come here in Fort lauder that ray. I was up there till three in the morning. I told Patrick when I got on stage, said, that's what you think happened. I said, guarantee Trump wins. He see guarantee. I said, guarantee one hundred percent. He said, what makes you think? So? I said, I see what's going on in the inner cities. Black people don't like this illegal immigration. Yes, they don't like the fact that their schools are terrible. They don't like the fact that there's LGBTQ stuffers in their schools. And these black men more than anybody, it's coming out for Donald Trump. Watch what I tell you. And at the end of the day, That's what happened. So what we're doing is working with shaming men. You know. Again, when I sit down and talk to him and he tell me he's a Democrat, I said, all, well man, you must be gay, but I ain't gay. Why you vot be? Ain't married? Brother? Why are you voting for parties going to castrate your son and have been walking around in high heels and with pink panties on? Well man, you know, manly, don't be playing with me. I've been living a long time straight man. Ain't gonna be going with a crap like that. Bro, you gay? You telled up on yourself. And I'm gonna tell you any any many vote for the Democrat Party is gay and then board and not shame them. Sure. I saw Clay Travis say that today. And name me the most masculine Democrat that's there. Who would it be? Don't have any I talked about Famala Harrison's husband, for example. Yeah, I mean, I said, every time I see you, I'm gonna want to be telling out of it. Go marry a woman, won't take his name, won't take his religion, you know, can't. I won't have many children, but gonna spend all his money, because that ain't gonna work for me. Play, you're gonna spend my money, You're gonna take my name, you go to the Cynagogue with me? Okay, I don't know about it. You ain't gonna get the check book, not even taking. And they propped him as the future man. Did you know that? That's they literally propped him as the guy that everybody needs. Man, I look at that, guys, what and he makes me sick? But those and the like and so what we do is we just make it binary again. Binary. Yes, dude, if you're voting for gay marriage, you're gay. No I'm not, Yes, you are. And I'm gonna tell you play. Everybody know it. And I'm gonna and I'm gonna tell him you know these I'm gonna tell the women. Man you made to the Democrat man, Yeah, that's something Donald Low better look out for him. Now, you better get him some HIV prep because in this piece, bro. So do you think we can get win some earl sears over the finish line? Here? Man, We're gonna try. They started late. I told these Republicans out the stupidest joke. But the Democrats are the evil as the Republicans out the stupidness. I mean, you talked me. I can't sell a dollar for fifty cent. These jokers can't sell school choice. You can't tell. Getting your child out of school and sexually growing up. That's how terrible they are. Right, So what's something started about a month ago, really getting the LGBTQ thing real hard, and that's finally right. Yeah, that's the low hanging fruit. And I told them she also had nine month abortion, not abortion, nine month abortion. It's a ninety ten issue. I ain't say, no, hit nine months. Make her defend that. You make them Fan Perry natal abortion where you voted against the Born Lives Bill with the. Child sur vibes and abortion, it's crazy. They're supposed to get aid from the doctor. You voted against. You voted a lot of the child died in the closet. You voted for that. And I said, and so they haven't hit that one yet, but they did finally started hitting the LGBTQ thing, but they may started hitting it too late. So I hope she gets over the finish line. She's closed the gap. But yeah, she they're they're, they're, they're in trouble because they're bringing in the heavy hitters. Now on the on the other side, Trump is not very you know, she don't really have anybody she can call to help her here because there's no Republican very popular hearing in inside Virginia. So I just hope that she can get it through the other side. I tell people who always try to say conservatives are racist, and I said, well, you explain how. What's some earl series is the supporters by ninety percent white. Yeah, and she's writing and she's one of against a white woman that's about his white as caspit a friendly ghost. You can't get no white at that. That's the old white liberal. I mean, these people were racist once and Merle Skills ain't even be in this fight. Yes, So you got conservatives that will vote for a black conservative. Now look at Tim Scott down in South Carolina. Look at Wesley Hunt, look at Byron Donald. You guys, can't that dog don't Hunt anymore. But again, the messenger is the most important thing, and the GOP has been very terrible and sending the proper messengers down there to deliver this message. So, guys, this is what I do. I do a lot of speeches for the Young Americans Foundation. So I go, I go home college campuses and I speak to the young the young people there. I do speeches for for tp USA and Black sit And it's funny that whenever there's a real tough campus, they'll say, send that's down there, because I crave it. I walk up in those rooms, man, and I woke up and I look at these people. He got the professors and stuff, and they call me they ready to jump me. And I walk up in and I says, oh, so I heard, So, I hear you guys believe in white supremacy. It's a good show me the white man superior to me. Stand up. I promise you we're gonna put. That to the test. That's an awesome way. And that's all I'm gonna stop. You know what I mean? I said, no, wad standing. Ain't that interesting? And so so I guess you guys don't believe it too well after all. Huh, And that's supposed to be the organization that's the the uh. The last administration. Remember the FBI said the white supremacy was the most dangerous out here. Yeah, I'm white supremacy. It's it's white supremacy. Is like voodoo. You have believe in it, for they have any power, will we? You know, you walk up to a white man's you're a superior to me. You said, I'm not superior to you. Yes you are. What can you do with that? Man, I'm sitting here telling you I'm not superior to you, and you're telling me that I am. Dude, I don't know how to help you here. Okay, Hey, you go to trailer you spirit this black guy. No, I'm not, Yes, you are your man. I don't know how to help you. Man. I'm telling you I'm not superior to you, and you believe it. So and if you don't believe it, like you know, we old enough to remember Muhammad Ali, how he would A lot of white men walked into the ring thinking they were superior to Ali and we got knocked out. It's not what he thinks, it's what you think. You don't try to bring him down, You pull yourself up. You can't control what happens to you. You can only control how you respond to it. And as you tell people about this, and tell him about this, and I said, this is a human element. Believe me. Men have instincts and they know when. They've walked up and they are dealing with a superior being, you might be as as racist and anti Asian as you want to. When you walked in front of Bruce Lee, your mind changed very quickly. You knew that Bruce Lee was a guy you didn't want to mess with, and you might have these anti Asian ideology when you when Bruce Lee walked into the room, you said, Okay, yeah, that's a different type of man right there. And that's because we have instincts. So speaking of that, and this is what I would like to get to and Brian talked about knowing more about you. I can be in a room and know when a guy's much more intelligent Tonight. You have mentioned sauls Celenski, You've mentioned Trotsky, you mentioned c. S Lewis, You mentioned your your background. What is your background? You went to Memphis State right, Who was your mentor where was your education from? Were you self taught in the history the communism? I have not heard anybody talk about Martin Luther King and communism before. I am an autodect man. I study myself. I found out the smartest people in the world are one of the self talk the only conservative that it's really a blue blood is like Tucker Sean Hatty didn't go to college, Rush didn't go to college. Cannis Oras didn't go to Canna's kind of going off the deep end for a moment, Charlie Kirk didn't go. Yeah, you'll find of these people say I'm not going to spend my time wasting six, seven, eight, nine, ten years with their goblego. I'm going to spend that time educating myself. And then they come out with this with this hitting knowledge that they've attained on their own. And when they go out and they do battle with these guys just like what Steve Jobs and Bill Gates did right this guys know what you're doing and they want to change the world. Yes, and all these guys at Harvard and yell A Mit, these guys in the Deckham Garage schooled them because they said, I'm not gonna waste my time. What you're doing is archaic. We know how to do it. That's kind of what we're doing now when it comes to conservative thought, these these schools, these I remember when I went to University of Memphis, Man at the first time I ever saw a gay students union, I said, what the heck is that in Brownsville this didn't exist. But they would tell us in New York City that we're backwards, we're stupid, we don't know how to live. But we go down in these small towns and we see that there's no crime. Yes, people take care of one another, people people. We go to our foot games and we clap and we join, we hoot and we holler and we get along. And then you go to the inner cities and they supposed to be so much better than we are, and they fighting, they're killing, and they hell raising, and we have a more simpler life. And they've tricked us into believing that success is money. And they always try to make you believe, like when you talk politics, they talk about economics. All the time. The white community makes so much money in the black community, and the Asian community makes this in the education. But we forgot about the happiness meter. And going up up here, we've seen it. We've seen a guy work a job for twenty five years at the foundry and retire with his wife in a small house it's about a thousand square feet and they have their children and their grandchildren come over the weekend and they barbecue and they watch Virginia Tech play football and go to living in university and they're happy. Yes, and you have all these rock stars out there shooting up and own crowd cocaine and blowing the brains out. And then they'll look at us and say their lives are better. That'said about what measure? Yeah, there you go by what measure? Is your life better than these good people that I know up in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, who will during this time of the year, they'll go in their guard and then they're they're picking. They'll leave some coin on you on your doorstep, but they'll go hunting and they'll go in there. They'll they'll they'll they'll kill a deer and they'll leave side of Ndison. Then you know, just be you know, if they see you on the side of the road pulled over, they'll come and they'll pull you out the dish and won't charge you no money. You know, just good good people instead of if you have no if you have to walk to go to the store at night and they're in the city, you'll get shot, or you get raped, or you get killed. They've tricked us into believing again. And our Bible tells us the love of money, not money, the love of it. Yes, he's the root of all evil, chasing it park put forth the Kingdom of God and all of it's glowing, and these things be added to you. Put that foundation under you. First, be a good man, be a good woman. Learn how to live a good life. If they take everything from you, what type of man are you? And you y'all saw that movie. It's a wonderful life. Yes, at the end when he thought he was a loser and everybody came to his aid. And it's one of the best movies ever because it talks about a person that lived in a small town. He had all these grandyose ideas and he didn't make it. But then he's it's luckiest man in the world. Why I had friends. We have to get back to teaching that again and get away from this ideology, this false idol that they put in front of this golden idol that they put in front of our children. That means you do whatever you can do. I'll have to do for the money, kiyo, lie that that carnal pleasure is the thing used to be After how many how many women you slept with how many jokers you shot, how much money you got, No, go back to love God, love people. No, I'm gonna leave you with this. When they say, actually, Christ, who is the greatest commandment? He said, love the Lord, your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. Before you can love you, Before that is good, you have to first love yourself. Yes, because if you don't love yourself, but you love your neighbor as yourself. If you are doing drugs, you're gonna give your neighbor drugs. If you're going, if you're doing, if you're permissionist, you're gonna take your neighbor to a strip club. But if you love yourself, you're gonna say, don't do that. I'm not doing that. Don't smoke, don't drink, don't get yourself in trouble. You will. You will then be the face of God. You love your neighbor as yourself because you're a good man. You love God, love yourself, love your neighbor. And we go back to that thing that my daddy taught me as a boy. Never'll forget it. Reading my Bible came a neighbor. You read the story thousands that. I said, no, no, that's a hid meeting in this boy, what is it? I said, Kane, you know it man, because God didn't take his off friend and God knew what he was going to do. And uh, God came to Kinge and Daddy said, read this. And God said, Kain, why are you angry? If you do well, will you not be accepted? I said, if you do well, will you not be accepted? And if not, send waits at. The door to master you. Yes, but you must master it. And he said, if you do well, son, you'll be accepted. My daddy it was left by his parents, orphaned. He was raised by his great aunt and uncle. I went back to Brownsville. They called me. The people in browns Will said, I, it's come back home. You've done something good work. We want to honor you and give you some speech and solf. I came back. My daddy came to all the festivities. Four or five things they add for me in the area. One of the best days of my life. And everywhere I went in Brownsville, I was out. Boy. They just talked about my father. Orphaned. Black man Jim Crow South never moved out his hometown everybody loves him. Why he did well? That human alibi. I tell you all about if you do well, will you not be accepted? People will respect you if you do well. These young children need to learn that again. They don't care about your race, they don't care about your agenda. If you do well, you will be accepted. And so I want to leave that with your listeners and your viewers. Do well, good man, will accept you. Thank you so much for coming on the program. Give me one last question, real quick. If you could pick anybody in history, any timeframe, who would you pick to spend twenty four hours with? And where would you hang out with that one person? If it wasn't Jesus Christ just setting in my bedroom, that's who I would choose. Besides Jesus Christ, I'll tell you'll be Abraham Lincoln. Wow, that man had the wait of the world on his shoulders. He had decisions that he had to make that nobody but him had to make them. I mean, Lincoln's given a decision. I can end the war and save one hundred thousand lives, but I got to put four million black people back in slavery, and I gotta make it tonight. Good God, what a decision. Yeah, the war will continue for another year and maybe one hundred thousand young men are going to die, or I can and I can save these young men's lives, but I have to put four million black people back in slavery or I can free these black these black slaves. And what one hundred thousand young men are going to die? Lord in Mercy was not going to do. Wow. And he has to sit back and make decisions like that over and over again. Wow. And you asked the question, what drove that board from the cabins of Kentucky? The reil splitter, losing all the elections that he lost, things that happened to him in his life. What made you think that you could win the Republican nomination against Seward and and all of these guys right and become president? I say some. I mean you were just one one term congressman and you decided to take on these guys got ten Chicago, Simon Chase, and you beat him. And then you took on the guy that beat you in the for Sinans it's Stephen Douglas right for presidency. And you beat him. Good God, dude, what was going on in your head? It almost makes you think it's divine. It was divine, and you set back. You just want to just want to get in it. You want to get into the head of a man that basically changed the world that people look at wow, and and did something that was so magnificent. And we all know the story. It came in stages. You know. He wanted to just suggest, say union. He didn't care about who wants to be president on the Civil War right, will handle this other stuff for later, but right now, let's save the Union. But he he urshed the country through it. It was kind of kleist. We'll still suffer from it today, but he did it. And the weight that was on that man's shoulders had to be amazing. So I'd rather stay. I'd sit down one night in my living room and just sit down and have a drink with the rail splutter and just and just talk to him about his life and what what led him from those cabins in Kentucky to where he was knowing, and how he haddled the pressure that was on it. Again for us, man, it was my place was fine. I'm glad to come in and say with you brothers, and it was gonna be a good time. Heck, all we needed was some Jack daniels Man. I'll bring it next to him. In all right. Thank you so much. Insurance in Bedford and David Honaker, local State farm Agent. Whether it's home, auto or life insurance, We've got you covered with personalized service and great rates. Let us help you protect what matters most with the reliability and trust to State Farm. Call us today at five four zero, five eight six eight one ninety four, or visit our office that is conveniently located at one two three two East Lynchburg Salem Turnpike in Bedford, right beside the Walmart. 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So let's get to the rest of the program quickly. All right, Drama trackers back on news headlines. We're gonna do this like Chris Burman's two drill. All right, so we drill still. So the producer tells us we are limited on time. That's okay, let's fly. Let's see how fast we can do it. All right, so twenty minutes. Okay, we have twenty o'clock. I'm at it, all right, here we go. Drama. Yeah, trackers back on for season three Tulsa King. You've got me hooked on that got through three episodes. I'm hooked on it, and we are attending the murder mystery this week in other drama. Yes, well, we were supposed to advertise like every week from a while. So I'm going to try it and I will let you know in further future episodes. How that went go ahead? Drama? Uh tolsa King Episode three got one ahead of Marty. So she's mad at me because I didn't wait on her. And then, dude, I wasted an hour and a half watching The Loneliest Whale. Oh yeah, I don't know why what documentary about? I thought I wanted to find out it was like a whale that has a different hurts than any other way. I'm in guy that he was talking about, I like nature. What do you think the Loneliest Whale means? It was a whale that had a different hurts of his call. And the Navy was trying to figure out why is there a sound in the ocean? Remember when the. Summer submersible busted? Yeah, and who was it that said, hey, we think he's dead. It was the navy because they listened in the ocean. Well there was a hurtz h e r z right the t the sound wave. There was a frequency that is lower than any other whale frequency. And they figure out it's one whale that's doing this. Where is the whale? Okay? Moving on fascinating move on right news headlines ABC News Trump prod's American cattle farms to try and get prices down because of his tariffs. Oh my gosh, they can't make up their mind with the tariffs. I literally heard of economists yesterday say this. Listen, a lot of these tariffs haven't been enacted, so that's why we're not seeing a lot of skyrocketed prices. Later on in the conversation, he literally said that Trump's trying to bribe people with the record amount of tariff money that came in good greed. Well, how do you do that if you haven't enacted any of it? So NBC News North Carolina lawmakers pass a new map that will help GOP gain a seat. Must be cheating, CBS News. Government shutdown become second longest in US history. Why shouldn't it say Democrat shutdown? Now, it's what you used to call it under Republican. So on, every time I'm going on one of those tiktoks or comments on X or whatever is, we need to come up with this phrase. Lift the filibuster, the filibusters, what's keeping it from being passed? Correct? Right? Yes, who's doing the filibuster. Well the Democrats, that's all you got to say. Yes, moving on sports, it's time for sports. Yeah, five minutes for sports. College football recap Alabama, Indiana keep rolling. Yeah. Meanwhile Tennessee and LSU took the wrong turn last week. Yep. This weekend's matchups Old Miss Okay, seems to be about the biggest game that I could find. Okay, and I'm looking for an Alabama upset this weekend. They're going to South Carolina. You think South Carolina might get them. It's just one of those you know how South Carolina has those, one of those games. Yeah, and it's hard to play in that place. Let me ask thank you this talking about college football? All right, there's always that game at the beginning of the season that you realize was an outlier. But it took forever for us to figure that out. Yes, FSU beating Alabama. It took us four weeks to realize FSU really sucks and Alabama's really good. Yeah, but that one game, how did it through it all? All? I know that's crazy, But. Every year there's like one of those early in the season you realize that was that was not right? Yeah? Nascar, Yeah, Martinsville weekend. It's this weekend. It's this weekend, yes, trying to be a bombing fifty nine degrees. So it but it's the final chase YEP, before the before the championship Phoenix. So yeah, what two races left? So two drivers are or eight six drivers have to figure out which are the two are going to make it because Brisco and a Hamlin are in. So the biggest question is who's pointing their way in and who's winning their way in. I think Kyle Lawson is going to do both. Okay. I think Kyle Larson's going to win this weekend and that leaves Chris Bell. I see William Byron winning this weekend. Okay, well then he would get in and Kyle Larson. I'm hoping it's Byron and Larsen. It would be nice. Chris Bell is so Vanilla. I know he's a lib all right. NFL Yeah, no real big news there. I don't know. I put big news, but no real big news with the NFL that I know of. Let's get to have at it. Yeah that next, No, what's happening? It's time news? All right? No King's Day? Yeah, I don't know if you saw some of the stupidity of No King's. Day, the dumbest thing in the world. All right, well this is a really good example of what No King's Day was like. Cut one. So what brings you out today, No King's Day? And why specifically are you out supporting No Kings Day? I think protests is important. Why are you protesting? How much time do you have. Questions? Yeah, what's the main reason you're out here protesting President Trump? You with a lot of the decisions that are being made. Is there any decision in particular you disagree with? We're okay? So I would start with. I mean, she went out on a Saturday to do this. Yeah, you have to be this mad that, you know why. I don't even think I don't even think it's appropriate for me to have this interview. I mean, you can't teach stupid, but apparently you can. I love when they go up to those those other tiktoks and somebody goes, hey, he was elected. Yeah, your sign didn't elect their candidate. They just picked their candidate. That's right, Which one's the king? Yep? All right? The Trump can't even build a ballroom without them being upset, Like I'm so done with the hate, Like, what could you hate about it? Building a ballroom with his own money. Paying for it? Yeah? Oh, he's using it for influence. Yeah, jesus, it's crazy. Have you ever heard of any president building anything at the White House? Of course they all have, right, I had no idea Barack Obama building back basketball Oh I. Do remember that. Yeah, but he can't outrage that I went downtown and started chanting no king, which remember they wanted him to be a king of course. Yeah. Yeah. Trump's getting closer. I'm telling you, I think we're very close on a Russia Ukraine deal? Do you Yes? I do. I hope so very much so do Did you see the interview with sixty Minutes with Leslie in Wickkoff and Jared Kushner. Go watch it. It's worth a watch. First of all, shame on sixty minutes or dude. They started it, literally started it with both of you have a vested interest in your businesses off of this peace deal, and both of them just humiliated her because shes like you have absolutely I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but he's basically like, you're making in the windows and have no proof of nothing. What we did do is this And I'm just like, man, they look so silly. Here's the silly part which is fun to me. Truth and liars watching like vents being on. You picked up on it very quickly. There's an educated person that didn't get rin indoctrinated, right, and you watched Leslie Stall. She can't even trip them up because they're well educated people that she just it's angering her that she can't get her. Point of m Yeah, oh come on, we're sixty minutes. Yeah. Anyway, all right. My post of the week this week, Oh I forgot about this is actually by a genius, not an idiot. It was awesome. It was a literally a Facebook post that said, if these people that are at No King's Rally are starting a civil war, we're in good shape. Yeah, dude, who was at Just just describe if you had three adjectives to describe who went to these New King's rally? What did they look like? Old white liberals? That's exactly what it was. Just it's awful. Yeah, all right. So my win win win is not Trump. It's not a Republican. It is one of my favorite comittee and Shane gillis talking about republic wondering. So I love this cut too. Might not be a Republican right now. You might be young, cool and liberal. If I think you're safe, dude, You're not. It doesn't happen overnight. It takes time. It takes you think your dad wanted to be a Republican, You think you got out of high school and he was like, all right, now it's time to be a prick about everything. It takes time. Like, I'm not a Republican right now, but I can feel it. It grows. I gotta fight it every day like a fucking werewolf. I'll just be watching TV out of nowhere. Just wire guys in every commercial. This is great. Murmaids are white. I'm thirty five. That's important to me. They are white. And I'm not joking on that one. All right, that's good, that's awesome. Yeah, so that was my win, win win, all right, yeah, Matt Rushmore. Yeah, and then we'll get to have at it. Do you want my post of the week? Oh yeah, yeah. If Joe Biden had posted some AI slop of himself wearing a crown and bombing Americans with pooh, I feel like it would be a pretty big news story. They're so mad that Trump trolls them. Oh yeah, he gets them every single time. Why do you try to take him down. He's going to one up you every time. The proof is in the pudding. If you want to see how bad they are on social media. They try so hard to be able to work social media to their favor and they keep failing at it. Yeah, you know why, because they don't know how to use it. Now they're running Spanburger's running a commercial where it's a lady on TikTok. That's the commercial. Well, you can't run a commercial of a fake TikTok and make it sound like that you're cool on social media. We look at that stuff and go, you're an idiot. You're trying to look cool and you're even doing stupid. It's awful, Like they don't get that social media is organic, right, Yeah, it's just what we see. It's an algorithm that it's attracted to ten and that's what they can't stand. So anyway, moving on our Mount Rushmore. This is my favorite part because we're doing we can't rush it all right, I'm not going to rush it. We've got two minutes pass as you can Mount Rushmore of dog breeds's idea. Well, it's just trying to come up with something that was political, criticizing everything we do. Yeah, well he's fresh off suspension. Let's not get back on it. Or Mount Rushmore of dog breaths you up. Okay, So my first is a Corgi. My second is a jack Russell. Don't explain why you have to go through the whole list. Okay. Then I go to a black lab, not just any lab, but it's got to be a black lab. What I just can't be just a lab. There are difference, all right, nobody's arguing. And then a mastiff. That's the one. I just how did you cut it? Mastiff? I've never seen you with any big dog. I know. You're always these little tiny ones. There's nothing wrong. There's nothing better than a Saint Bernard with a barrel around. Its neck bringing you a little booze. Oh my god, don't you remember the cartoons back now? They always saved you from an avalanche. They have one at the Bedford Shelter right now, you can go get. Oh that's awesome. So those are my dog. Of course she would know what's available at the bed for. So the reason the first two is I do own a corky slash Jack Russell. So you like you just like them both? So you mixed them? Yeah, that's what Sam and Scoots are, right? Correct? Okay, you had Sam, he passed away and you got Scoots. Yes, Scoots is a Corgi Jack Russell mix right correct? What he just said? I'm sorry, uh be messing around with my mastiff? Do you want? Okay? So lax our loyal listener. His number one is a Siberian Husky. That's because he had them. Don't these things bite? Aren't they beautiful? Kind of retarded too? With the blue eyes? Just talk China. Blue was the name of his dog. Number two is a beagle, three is Australian Shepherd and four is German shepherd. It's like a lot of hair. Yeah, it is flying around that has an impact. On my. Bernards should like crazy? Yeah all right, emma. Number one black lab, specifically Golden retriever. What do you'all have against yellow labs? I have a black lab. Okay, they're pretty What was number two? Golden retriever? Because I have one. That's a lot of hair. Docs in for oh my god, I had. One one, I had one and then a GSP. German. I thought that was a uf I thought that was a UFC fighter. No German, short haired pointer. The cool I didn't know what that was. I want one, okay. And then Bernice Mountain Dog. A Bernice Mountain Dog. Aren't they giant? Yeah? He's looking them up before apparently cut nice? Yeah okay, Trent, okady. So mine is based on the dogs that have loved me. So Maggie, Maggie is number one, like one ever. I keep dogs till they die, so there's not many. It loves you. Maggie was a labradoodle dogs. She was like smart, like a person, like she might be smarter than one of my kids. So you went with poodle. Actually surprising because like Davis is like an idiot, Doodles are idiots usually. This one was like intelligence. Maggie was extremely intelligent, smart, must have had more lab in her. She chose that for an owner. And then my second favorite was Gaiter. You're an idiot. Oh, I loved Gator was awesome. He was a beagle, he was pure blood. He wasn't Yeah, he's peer blood. He was awesome. Sometimes, Yes, that's why I moved into number two. But Man because he chased a rabbit and there was nothing better in life than taking your dog and jumping a rabbit and it and it run the rabbit clear around on a mountain ridge. But rabbits always circle. I didn't know any of this until I had a beagle, But rabbits always circle. And so all you gotta do is stand right there and the rabbit will come right by and you shoot it, and Gator would be all happy. Uh. And Benny Bennie was my third favorite. He was a miniature Docs And so Ginger is kind of a tie because Ginger is my new dog and she's a miniature Dockson. Did you do you take him hunting? I think Bagel Docs AND's hunting. They do. They will go into a groundhog hole. We're bred to go into holes. You know. We just had this man on that talked about masculinity and stuff. Right, if you go hunting with your little no no. You know what pictures I get from Trent throughout the week, his dog, his dog laying on his chest. She's so cute, she's cuddly, she just loves you. This is what I get. Well, I guess I gotta say vow because he's all right in our house and Mario get math. I don't say vow. But there's two dogs that i'd like to have, and I don't know what the difference between them is. An Australian Shepherd and a Border collie. Which one chases the sheep border college? Okay, that's the one I want? Which one? I thought it was The Australian Shepherd chases sheep. Collies have tails? Oh yeah, that's it. That dog is so smart. But they're they're so furry. I don't. I don't like fur hanging around that. It actually doesn't shed that bad, I don't. I just don't like hair. These are the prettier ones, like. I can't do. The blue eye and one brown eye. I can't do that kind of freaks my dogs. And has two blue eyes. It's blue brown. So that's my list, all right, Moving on to yeah, wait, what kind of dog is vow? Vowel's a poodle? Oh you told me? Like small, big, small poodle. He's not like a the tea cup tiny tiny poodle. Dude, I would never picture you with a mastive so much. I dogs it for people. I mean their heads this b yeah, and they. Drews no masteredness. One has two of them. They should. I can see you with a big collar that's got the spikes on it. It got new equipment. Are you getting this stuff on your new equipment? Yeah? Look at you? All right? Moving on? Wait a week I could see trying down twenty three. I lost one, so I'm down eight. That's what are you giving me? Did you just give me a. B seon? What do they call them? Did you just gave me Upah? No, no you did that. I did not. Did you know the bijon is but Singji is the only dog that can't bark? That's what I want? Yeah, exactly. I don't want a chow. That's what took the bite out of my own. I remember that. That thing took half my arm. Yeah. Why would you get near that thing? It was my roommates just because it didn't get fed one time. I bit my roommate back. That's awesome. He risk all right, we got no time for. Have at it. Actually, Trent would know, Brian would be the bulldog. All right, have at it. Wait, hold on, I just. Got three things to say. Bless our truth, bless a pair. Of cup. Stock. God, I think they're gonna like the way this format is, and they're gonna be like, y'all talk so much better when y'all. Honestly, if we could go back to an hour, it'd be funner, all right. So I'm gonna skip through this, but if you could. This is what every lib looks like, isn't it? And because you were living me to five minutes, I'm gonna need your full focus because every time I. Have had it started to know why he wasn't allowed on. I told you yesterday to text him. Oh my gosh. Okay, look at that, Brian. I'm gonna need your full attention. I need to take your phone. Okay, he does this to me everywhere. Now I do not, all right, you literally do. I've got it on video and now people know. Okay, now skip to cut eleven. Lord, we're not going to play. So now those same two people are interviewing her Pasaki, So whoever these two are, they're an interview on her. I'm not going to play everything because I don't have enough time. But guess what they're talking about in this video. I don't know. They're they're now jumping on JD him down, They're tearing JD vance. This is a year early. This is how scared they are of jd Vance. You know what, let's play this one. I think the little mentoring candidate jd Vance wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Okay, please link four times. We'll come over here, We'll save you, We're going to save you fortune, and that he's willing to do anything to get there, and that your whole iteration you're just outlined. I mean, he's scarier in certain ways, he's smarter in some ways, and he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now, what's also true, though, is jd Vance is not He's in some ways goodish on paper if you like what he believes in. I don't know, but I don't I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him. No, I don't think absolutely he is. It's got no risk. A little odd dude. Listen to this question and listen to how it backfires on him and how the guy just completely goes past George Snaffilopolos. Listen to how he asks this question about Thanksgiving coming up and food prices. He's talking to the head guy of Walmart. Let's talk about Thanksgiving. First. Food prices are up, especially Turkey, So what are you doing to how customers keep the costs down? Well, good morning, George, is great to see you. We are really excited about what we have planned for this year at Thanksgiving, and I can't believe it's already that time of year, but this is a time of year when people are busy, they don't want to sacrifice quality, and we want to do all we can to help them celebrate the holiday anyway they want, and we want to do it in a way that's very affordable with a lot of value. So I want to talk about a couple things with the Thanksgiving Basket now. First, we started putting together this idea of having the entire basket easy to purchase, easy to assemble back in twenty twenty two, and this year we will have the best prices on this basket we've had since the program started. We're down about twenty five percent from last year, down about fourteen dollars to the basket, which puts us in a position where this basket is just under four dollars a person when serving ten people. So we have a great basket that has a mix of our great. Brands like Butterball turkeys. Our turkey price is George are all the way back to what they were in twenty nineteen at ninety seven cents a pounds, So we're really excited about. The turkey's actually less than when Biden was ever president. All right, you got to listen to this this If you have not heard this rally Letitia James, which, by the way, if she's going to be at a podium, she's just been found indicted. Right, she's just been indicted. Okay, how does she get in front of people to have a rally in the first place. So obviously this is coerced paid. But just Vince Ellison talked about this earlier about just the uneducation right of these people. Listen to how she talks cut twenty five. A. Listen to this. Who care. A sah, No, we're not. You got indicted. It's your mortgage. You lied on your application. Yeah yeah, that's good enough. Okay, all right, So the so this is what I think could have happened to her. This is what I think could have happened to her cut twenty six. Maybe it was a stroke, had a stroke and now speaks with a permanent Chinese accent. It wasn't until I was in the ambulance on the way to the hospital to actually say, are you're aware of the way you're speaking? And I say, oh, it sound like a solo And she said no, you sound like you can work at a Chinese or reserve one. I said, yeah, you're look good. Work in the local China house was something. Ra was an IT specialist until a severe migraine bordering on a stroke brought the syndrome on cash. Crash crash, crasher, crashed crusher. Okay, let's try reading. You wish you to know all about my grandfather? My grandfather? I mean, that's a true It was a news cliff. So I saw that after seeing Leticia go, what's jez oh? Dude, you've got to listen to this. Okay, the worst excuse ever. This guy won a poker hand. He wonted poker in Vegas for one and a half million, right or one point four? Listen to him. Try if Trump had won, what would he have said hell yeah, I won. Yes, listen to this guy try to weasel out of winning one point four million and bring in charities that he's created. This is unbelievable. Explain a little more circumstances at one point four. Million and that's that's those are big winning. Was this a high roller table? Where you were you gambling with millions. And millions of dollars? I obviously I've explained this, or at least we did in a statement. You know that I went on location with my wife with some friends. I was incredibly lucky. You have to be to end up ahead, frankly going to a casino anywhere. Uh. It was in Las Vegas. Uh and UH. I like to play cards, and so you know that I founded a Uh there is charitable poker match here in Chicago called the Chicago Poker Challenge that raises millions, has raised millions. I got to do with the question the Holocaust Museum here, the Holocaust Museum. And particularly to stand up for civil rights. That's much of what the Holocaust Museum civil rights. And so the Holocaust Museum is about the civil rights. That's all I can say about it. Had had fun doing it. I encourage people to come to the state of Illinois and gamble in our casinos. Here, we have some really lovely places to go. Wait a minute, I'm confused. Yes or no? Did he go to Vegas and win one point four million? Yes? So it wasn't the Chicago charity Poker No, okay, So first of all, you like to play cards, Yeah, you and I have been in the casino. Yeah, you're not winning one point four million. That's lucky, fella. He just walked in. When you when you went gambling in Vegas this summer, you went to Roulette's. Yes, did you walk away with one point four million? No? Was there any chance that you could have luckily got to one point four million? No? I got lucky probably five times and hit on numbers that are rare. Yeah, like the Greens. That's where I won most of my money, and I still lost forty bucks. What I love is right in the beginning, he does what Gavin Newsom did. He says, I've answered this before, Well, we put a press release out. It's like he goes to lie and has to correct himself. So all right, yep, end of show. That's it. Listen again, thank you for joining us. But also thank you to Vince Everett Ellison for coming on the show. How awesome it is that we get to share the studio with such talent. And you know, obviously he has a wonderful following, so we take thank him for taking the time out to come see us. Let's be honest. He's on Tucker, He's on Patrick Beck, David, he's on Candae Hond. I mean, he's on all of these. Got ninety thousand followers on you, right, and we just get ten percent of them to listen with. He's probably on the way home a minute. These are the guys that. Launched me, SOBS need to get some more followers. So anyway, we do appreciate him coming in. That was incredible. Yeah, yeah, we'll have to make it up to Kevin. We keep forgetting him. Yeah, I told you to text him yesterday. He's going fishing next week, so we'll catch him on his fishing trip. No, he probably won't even talk to us for two weeks. He's gonna make us payne. Hey, he left us for six weeks. That's right, Kevin. He at least warned us. All right, quickly Martinsville, thank you, Emma. That is before we get out martins Field. I'll take William Byron. Okay, I will take Carson Joselvar, and I will take Bubba Wallace. I'll take Kyle Larson. I agree with you, William Byron. That may be two heavies and I'm gonna go Keselowski. Oh wow, good one. Yeah, Emma, we're good. Yeap peach Well he said we had twenty minutes. Hey, is she going to pull out like she did the veteran voices where the interview will also last itself. The interview should stand alone. Because this computer is barely moving over here. With you're good? How long? But it will all be up listening. I don't think I think it's I don't think this program is made to record to announce. So we need a new program now. No, I don't know they make that. Oh just in make announcement. We are on commercials now, We're on wf WFXR. See our commercials out there. I've had check out w XFR and their special vettering voices. If stop me if you've ever heard that before. I haven't seen the commercial yet. I don't even know what it looks like. Me neither, but I've had people tell me about it, which is cool in the show, Yeah, hungry. Oh, the end of the show is it's a little three minute motivational clip of taking responsibility. Because I thought that's exactly what we're going to talk about with Vince, So I thought it was cool. All right, I have great week. Life is built not by revolution, a great life is built by evolution. Small and steady wins the race. What you do every day is far more important than what you do once every decade. I want to really think about that idea. What you do every day is simply your life in miniature, and as you live every single day, so you're crafting your life. What you do over the next hour is really building your future. And if you can just get every single pocket of twenty four hours right as best as we humanly can, the rest of our. Life is going to take care of itself. So small winds matter. The scripture says we will eat the fruit of our words. You are planning seeds when you talk. At some point you're going to eat that fruit. My challenge is make sure you're planning the right kind of seeds. If you want apples, you have to sow apple seeds. If you want oranges, you can't plant cactus seeds, poison ivy seeds, mushroom seeds. You're going to reap fruit from the exact seeds that you've been sowing. In other words, you can't talk negative and expect to live a positive life. You can't talk. Defeat and expect to have victory. You can't talk lack not enough, can't afford it, never get ahead, and expect to have abundance. If you have a poor mouth, you're going to have a poor life. If you don't like what you're seed, start sowing some different seeds. We may not realize it, but we're always feeding ourselves what we watch. Listen to the people we're around, the thoughts we're dwelling on. That's feeding our inner man. If you go to lunch with people that talk bad about the boss, make fun of a coworker, put down a friend, they're feeding you gossip, feeding you jealousy, feeding you disrespect. Here's the key. Whatever you feed is going to grow. You may not like what they're feeding you. You're a nice person, but if you continue to hang around them, before long, you'll be gossiping, you'll be critical, you'll be disrespectful. Why because you kept feeding the wrong things. If you're always feeding negative thoughts, thinking I'll never get well, I'll never meet the right person, you're feeding doubt, feeding mediocrity, feeding fear. If you know exactly what you want to be, you need to spend as much time with people that are actually that already