Life Liberty Happiness - 7.09.2025

Broadcasting on Grove Street FM, brought to you by Media Squatch. It's Life Liberty Happiness with your host Brian Schly with Trent Warner. Hello, everybody, Welcome to another episode of Life Liberty Happiness. We are live in the David Honaker State Farm Studios in the studio joining me, mister Trent Water And guess who's back? Trent? Thank god, Emma, Emma's back. We loved Woody. In fact, we missed Woody when he first left, but we've gotten so much better, not anymore then. We didn't like him, love to see him, but love to see him go. Yeah, it's nice to say hi, better to say bye. Yeah, he should just be a guest. I agree. Yeah, it's his company, but. Put him on Mount Rushmore producers retire. Oh anyway, it's great to be back in the studio. Had a wonderful week, Emma. I know you were out last week vacationing, right, But. You go Outer Banks and then North Myrtle. Two places in one week. Yeah. I left Flake last Thursday and then I stayed at Outer Banks with my boyfriend's family until Saturday. So which do you prefer? Outer Banks or North? I would nor Martle, I've been going there for a long time me. So you like, say, at Cherry Grove. Peer see, I like the Cherry Grove area. That's where we went shark fishing. Yeah, used to go out there way. Yeah, yep. Well it's good to have you back in. Hopefully you caught the uh the episode I did. The full nine hour long one. It literally kept me awake all the way home. There you go. I barely could keep my eyes on. So when I was younger, I used to listen to Rush Limball when we would go on trips, I had to listen to him, and he was great. Or Dynamics Love, those were those when I was your age. That's what I listened to when I hit the road. Do you ever wonder, because you and I both grew up listening to Dynamics and loved the show, do you ever wonder what he was like prior to the show, Like he was a disc jockey for yeah years and he talked about being high and coke the whole time, and yeah, partying, and but then when we knew him, it was just he was totally different and. Did a show quite kind of like ours. Right, Yeah, he was wild. Yeah, he was crazy. But anyway, a little later on the program will be joined by Marine Corps veteran Gregory Meacham. Can't wait to get to that segment here shortly on their American hero Stories. But before we get to that, let's go backwards and Fords Trent I had a relaxing for Yeah, for the first time, we didn't really do anything other than really it was me and my wife. First off, you can't go camping yet, right, because you don't have your truck still. It's parked out there. Yes, well it's going to stay out there, right, it'll stay parking lot. It'll stay out there permanently. It's too big to put You can't get it my driveway, driveway. But your truck, the fifth wheel, your truck is still in the shop. Truck is still going on eight weeks. Yeah, transmission. Yeah, Chevrolet still says, uh, it's it's under warranted. It's only a year old. Under warts and not getting it back. Well, you're heading down that road, I'm telling you. Unfortunately Chevrolet, and I love Chevrolet. I just want them to. I don't know what's going on. What's up with the supply chain now? Yeah, because it's no different Fords going through an issue too. They're all cool. I remember there's that time in the microchip you couldn't buy a new car for a while, and used vehicles went through the roof because there weren't any micro chips. So, since you brought it up, yeah, because I said it on the show last week that in twenty nineteen Alison stopped making the transmission but they still put their name on it and Chevrolet started. I wanted to verify that, right so, because I had been told that, but I didn't know if it was one hundred percent true. So I google it, and the first thing that comes up that says, no, that Chevrolet buys its transmissions from Alison, that Alison makes the transmissions for all Chevrolets. You keep reading since twenty nineteen in the six point six Leader ten speed Chevrolet GM makes it and Alison just backs it with the engineering and puts their name on it. Well, that then it is exactly what I said. But what's wild about that is if they made their own transmission and you're making them for new vehicles, don't you think you'd have the inventory to fix it replace it? I don't know, Like, who's to blame now? Yeah, since Alison didn't make it, GM made it. But with Allison engineering, I mean, that's so stupid. Guess what, you didn't have a problem before, Why did you change? Well, I hope you get it fixed. Me too, man, I missed my truck. So because you couldn't you can't go camping, y'all decide to just sit on the front of horse together enjoyed watch fireworks. Yeah that's nice. Yeah, probably nicer for you than her. No, No, I don't think she. I hope she did. But it was awesome. And then of course this weekend we leave for Vegas. Just your first trip to Vegas. Yeah, I've never been to Vegas. And I'm listen, you're going with Barton terror. Yeah, we're going with neighbors, and uh, they're They're all wanting and I'm not saying I don't want to go, but it's not mine. I'm not a gambler. You've we've been friends of mine just came back and they were a lot like me. You know, I could probably do the shows, the pools, the drinking, the eating, the fun stuff, but the gambling. I hate losing money. Well, we went through it a couple of what a month ago cross Lanes and I just can't. I mean, I'm trying it. Big watch it hit you hit a slot machine, come back with ten grand or something. That's what I'm That's what I'm hoping for. I hope so too. But yeah, we're gonna go out there. We'll catch a show, go to the Hoover Dam, but you pretty much I will be inside. I will not go outside the time. There's got to be one hundred and twelve next week. What they told me. And see if you experienced this the shade like here, it feels good to get in the shade there. It is unbelievable the difference walking from the sun into the shop in the sh It's that much difference in temperature. Well, I won't know because I'm not going out. I'm just telling you I already won. My wife. I was like one hundred and twelve. No thanks, I don't care. If it's dry heat. Yeah, I'm not going. I can't wait to hear that. But we were here, so we won't hear it next week. It'll be two weeks that we hear, correct, because you'll be at Vegas. So and to announce for next week, then yes, I'll be hosting the show, and Travis Baxter has said he will join me and helped me out. Yeah cool, all right, what did you do over the fourth? It was mainly let's see you are off Friday. Yeah, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So it was a big long blur our neighbors when they get together, it's a it's a blur. It was fun, it's a pool, nice, it's deck, it's heat, it's drinking, it's grilling, and do it again the next day. The Great American Fourth, I mean, that's what it's all about. Yeah. We did go to Hazy Mountain. Have you ever been up there yet? I haven't. Man, go up one fifty one where the wineries are right there around with Veritas. Yeah, where if you turn left on one to fifty one you go to Veritas. Don't turn left. They don't have a sign for it. How they stay in business, I don't know. They don't have a sign on one fifty one. But you turn right on Dicky Wood's Lane Road, which is the next right. It's the you would think you were at Yellowstone. It is the prettiest place in Virginia. I mean, honestly, it's really cool. Cool yep, so we. Did that and had a good time in this weekend. This weekend, cousin Dave is having his fourth get together a week after July. Yeah four, yep, my brother's going, my parents are going. Everybody's there kind of camping. I took him a generator the other day. Oh you did, Yeah, and I think I'm gonna take I want to give him the U my battery pack thing too, Yeah, because I want to see if you hook the solar panels up to it, if it lasts through the night. Like if he turns off the generator and turns on that, how long does that thing last? Interesting, it'd be awesome if it lasted through the night. Yeah, because that way have to listen to the generator noise at night. But we'll see. Yeah, it is made for camping, so cool, we'll see. That's what we'll be doing. I mean, you vacationed, and then what's coming up this weekend? Work? Okay, I work all weekend catching up. Yeah, that's what happens when you on vacation. You got paid for it. Yeah. Thanks on to this day in history. This day in history. In eighteen seventy seven. Yeah, Wimbledon began, remember it well can you can you believe though, Yeah, that's wild that it's been that long that Wimbledon started its tournament in a neighborhood. Yeah, that's incredible. That is incredible. Same grass, my hydrogen water is complete. Huh, So I can get healthy by drinking this water. Maybe one day they'll sponsor the show. Shameless plug. Anyway, what do you go? By the way? Joker is in the semifinals he won today and Center beat Shelton during the semis against one another Alchaaz, which I mean pretty much at the beginning, you just know it's gonna be an Alcarez Center final. But I hope Joker can. Just sprint cutting through. I'm telling you that kid's incredible. I wouldn't know him if you walked in here. I have no idea what he even looks. That's crazy because the ones you like, he's fifth in the world. The ones you like are like seventeenth and twelve. Yeah, but I guess I don't know Shelton TFO. I know because of the US Open. That's how I know them. Yeah, so I don't know. Frizz. He's he's John Macker. I mean, one minute he's in the next minute he's throwing a racket. Oh really, Oh yes, it's incredible to watch. I have to watch him. In my history was in nineteen fifty July seventh, which is not this day, but close to this day this week. That's actually what I typed this week in history, the Korean War began. Okay, that's that's this week I mean. And that's because okay, so anyway, the Korean War began. What I think is interesting and I still think is interesting about that war is officially they signed the Armistice Agreement in nineteen fifty three, which was a three year war, if you will, They've never signed a peace treaty. They're still underneath that original agreement. They never stopped the war. Officially, they're still under war, so they never have finished it. They just don't cross the line. They're trying to go for the one hundred years war. Yeah, how about Trump? I remember him going across the line. Yeah, walking in North Korea. Yeah, that's crazy. So I don't know, that's one of the wars. Like one of the things that bothers me the most is that we're you know, d Day is here, and I love going to all their events. I'm a sponsor, and I just it's phenomenal. I love it, but I often wonder I just don't know enough about World War One. Yeah, and I don't know enough about the Korean War. Those are the two that just I seem to not have any knowledge of. That is true. I know a lot about Vietnam and you know, yeah, all the rest. But that is there a World War One memorial? And if it is, it is it nice like this? Oh? You mean in DC? Oh? I think it's nice. All right. Yeah, I'll have to do some research. I not to get stuff on that. All right. Onto American hero Stories. The American dream is built on freedom, and that freedom comes at a cost. American Heroes Stories, presented by Life Liberty Happiness, is a new series honoring the men and women who've sacrificed to protect that dream. We're proud to play a small part in preserving their stories for future generations. Life Liberty Happiness, a Media Squatch podcast, presents American heroes story. All right, folks, we are welcome today by Marine Corps of veteran Gregory, meet him, Welcome to the show. Thank you, glad to be here. You go by Gregory or Greg Greg just Greg Okay, all right, So tell us a little bit about where your humble beginnings began. Where were you born and raised. I was born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Stayed most of my eighteen years in the rural area and four kids, mom and dad, but a biological father was in the army. My uncles were in the Marines, which had a great influence on me in the latter years. My uncle came back from Korea wounded in the last day of the Fight for Soul, and I saw him in his dress blues and it kind of ruined me. Wow. So what year did you decide to sign. Up right out of high school? In nineteen sixty seven? I signed up in June and I went to boot camp at San Diego because I was on the western side oh wow, of the Mississippi River. And I spent eight weeks there. Eight week time was a lot of things were going on. They pushed us to boot camp pretty quickly, and then I was I went to radio school. I became a radio operator, carried a radio on my back in Vietnam. Okay, wow, So once you're done with boot camp, do you know in boot camp that you're you're going to be going to Vietnam at some point, or is it at that time? It's kind of up in the air. And when we finished boot camp, they give us all orders okay, And at that time, being from Iowa, I had pretty clear speech. Not so much now, but I remember getting my orders. Twenty five thirty one. You'll be a radio oper. You'll be carrying a seventy five pounds radio on your back. I weighed one hundred and thirty three pounds. Good. And you'll be going Fleet Marine Force. You will be going to Vietnam, they told us, okay, camp, Yeah, we'll be going. All right. So what was your first uh interaction? I guess they drop you off in Vietnam. I mean, are you with a group at that point? No, sadly, and this is what I have a lot of us talk about Vietnam vets. World War One and World War Two. You trained with your guys, you tamed with your squads, your fire teams, your platunity, your companies. But in Vietnam it was fractured and we literally went over the as individuals and never saw, except for very few situations, we ever saw any of the guys are in boot camp with again. Right now, how do you think you were selected for the radio part of it? That? I mean, you said you were kind of light, but you got to carry a seventy five pound radio with you. How do you think they how do you think you got selected for that? Well, it was a clear speech. But I was always as a farm boy. I was a hard worker. I've always worked out, and yeah, pretty good care of myself. But how much training did you get on the radio before you had to go to Vietnam? Actually quite a bit. We started out with a little what they call bricks, which are PR six's and little handheld bricks, and then we went to twenty five which was primarily what we carried, and land air was a PRC forty seven, and we actually got into TSC fifteen vans where we could skip with. Ham radioppers a love of the world. We learned to operate those, but the entire time it was there, all I had was a twenty five and forty seven. So how long are you there before you start? Do you end up in the combat zone I'm imagining? Well, I got into Danang and there's this big board of Vietnam and it's broken up in cores. In I core's the most heavily fought area upon the dm and this guy, I guess he thought it was funny. He said, you're clear down here. The farther you go north, the worst is going to be for you. You see, you're right up there on the DMZ. Good luck, buddy. Oh wow. So I flew up and I got out at Dalh and was assigned to four Patan towards Marines, and I spent the majority of my time on fire basis up on the DMZ. We moved almost monthly in support and we fired a one five five superfilel houizer. And you just don't get to be a radio operator. You've got to work the guns too. You got to profuses on those ninety two pound rounds. You got to throw them up in the chamber of the breach to put the powder charge behind him, close the fire and lock put the primer in there. Everybody does that because during those massive fire missions, people start passing out. The cordite powder that comes from those artillery rounds are like pellets and they're base black powder. And after you ingest enough of that smoke, you can see the guys starting coming through their nose as they breathe it's all coming other long. Wow, pull somebody out, put somebody else in there. I never knew that. I see firing of howartzers all the time. You just sit on video. I never thought about that inhalation with a. Well, you've got two kinds of a howitzer. You've got a toad howitzer. The self propelled looks like a tank with a big barrel and a big flash supressure on the end of it. At a nighttime, you don't want to be seen, so you're working off a globe likes inside, not the kind you're talking about, but some other ones we had, and you might fire twenty five thirty rounds, get a two minute break, and another fire mission comes up, and you're back in it again. And yeah, it was. It was pretty challenging for one hundred and thirty three pound guy. It was wow. And what eighteen years old, nineteen, yeah, nineteen from the home. I'm sitting here thinking like it's how many years ago as it's been forty fifty. Yeah, and yet you're sitting here talking about how you loaded it like it happened last night. I mean, the just it's amazing to me, just all the things you remember. You remember things that if you don't, if you forget them, get you killed. Right. And when I went over and I was embedded in a rackspect for forces, we used, of course, you know the finetic alphabet, and they asked me that I know it and I can recite it backwards for us. I just can't forget it. Wow. And those are the types of things you learn, and you know if you don't do those things, somebody gets killed. Yeah, so you're trained to live. When you were at the howitzer like that, and you said you also were radio and you had to help fire it, my question is is the radio one way? I mean, what I'm saying is that are you giving commands? Are you also listening to help fire the howitzer in the right spot? Is that? What? What does the radio guy do? The radio guy in that situation is strictly in the guns. Okay, He's got nothing to do with the fire direction center, which is underground in bunkers. We live like hobbits up there in your fire direction center. The fire mission comes in from the units that wants the support, and once that comes in, it comes in basically with their nature of target and asthmus what you're going after the North November Victory alf and the open VC whatever, And then you decide what you want in adjustment, whereas two hundred meters bursts of white phosphors what you want for effect which is an h with a surface impact, or you want a thirty meters burst over the top of the tree line. Once that all comes up, then the fire direction center calculates exactly based upon the grid that you receive from the man in the field, how to set the elevation to quatern on the weather systems. And can you see what you're firing out? Is it that far too far away that you don't even know? Very seldom we fired direct fire. Several times we got beat pretty bad at the rock by a howitzer, a pack seventy five howitzer. We ended up knocking it out with the four phantom naped it. But he would roll that thing, well, five of them would roll it out and they would pound us. But because the entrance to the cave was not on a gun target line, we couldn't shoot into it. But we wanted to make them miserable. Yeah, so we'd shoot back at it, you know. But places like Caisson I was at the very end, it was it wasn't nearly as bad as the beginning. But those guys were they went through it. They were. They were sleeping up underneath their howitzer and because of so much income in twelve hundred and fourteen hundred rounds, oh wow, and the enemies just pounding them. And so they ended up shooting a lot of the barrels out of four Patao twelfth marines, one five or five self propels. It took the flash of pressures off. I'm of the muzzle break, as they called it. They went. I got a bucket eyebolts. I took the eyebolts off where unscrew them off the rounds to put fuse in four of us, put a light dream bag charge and got them back in the jungle about three pound diaballs. Wow wow, yeah, it was so How long was your first did you? Did you have multiple tours or just one? Well? I had two tours, uh. And after about seven or eight months, I was no longer the new guy, and I wasn't eating the ham and line of beans. I was eating chicken the noodles. But that taste is something we'll talk about when we're not on the air. And I became a I got combat marichoice wanted to corporal and uh, it was different, but some of the realities were still there, things like everybody has to take their take your chances. And as an example, when the enemy would fire around in on us, we start taking a lot of rounds. We want to find out where the enemy. Example, we have nobody in the sky to see whether they're shooting. So one lone marine And I've done this several times. It's not fun. You run out with a like a broomstick and a protractor. You pin that to the side of that broomstick sot of swivel. What you do is you look at the spray from the shrapnel and you find the center and that's your direction. Wow fire And then you read the mark on the protractor and I write it on the back of my hand, so if I go down, they can at least have my hand to go by. And you go on the underground bunker and they're able to coordinate those two very simple things, your direction with a linds that compass and the protractor on the stick, and they can fire counter battery. Back on the enemy. Now did you learn that from boot camp? Did you learn that from the States or is that just on the fly that somebody I. Learned that they did it when there was no incoming and showed me how to do it. And I remember them saying, meet creater analysis. I said, you know, because those rounds come in and they're no joke. That's we lost. If you got well, man, we lost quite a few guys to incoming around. And the bravery just the bravery man let you. But we all take your take, take our chances, you know, yeah, all of wow. Uh so the second tour back was it as so you guess you're there for seven months? And did you rotate out thirteen months? Oh so you were there for thirteen Yeah, yeah, that was the first tour. First or second tour. I was there for eleven. They gave me a choice either stay and train the Arvins the Army of Public of Vietnam, and go home with the Marines. And I wasn't about to stay with the army's arms, so I went home. But my first tour I got injured. I was we're in the middle of a fire mission and I caught the blast of a house or my left ear at the same time we were getting incoming rounds well, all I remember is waking up looking around. I was laying on the ground, and I went to the underground bunker, the fire Russian Center and passed out. Well, I lay there in my bunk for two days underground because we had no hues, no metafacts coming, and it had blown my tim panic memory and my summer circular canals had been torn out, and so they menovaced me out the USS sanctuary. I was out there, I think fifty six days. And I love the Navy, I love the Army, I love them all. All of them have had a profound impact on my life. And these Navy cormen just worked over me. Man. Wow, They filled my teeth, they. Made new glasses for me. They make sure my ivs were constantly going in so the infection could come out of my face. Was alsolen affection. And they wheeled me down to the mess hall at the bottom of this and literally, except for Christmas and Thanksgiving, we ate sea rations. We weren't in Dang, we weren't in Dongha. We ate sea rations. So I got to go in the belly of that ship and I got to have cold milk, pork chops and beef. This is heaven. Oh man, that's nice. It's the things. It's the things that we've noticed when we've been doing these interviews. A lot that they speak of is just finally getting to eat something warm. It was incredible. Yeah. Well, the Marine Corps got part of its priorities, right. The part they got is two beers a day. So if you were out someplace for four days, you better come back and there's better be eight beers. There beers there. Something's probably gonna bleed. But the rest of the time we drank. I'm not joking. I can't stand the stuff. They lime dreen koolid oh okay. And it was warm. We didn't have ice, and we put our beers in the creeks to keep them cool, in net bags and stuff. But it was it was different. There was no table set for us up there. Indifference in Iraq. When I went up to Talifar with my Special Forces team thirteen fifteen, I said, we're gonna We're gonna eat Mrs up here an aircraft hangar and we put sixteen foot teer bearers around us because this was not a good place. This is right at the Syrian border and we are a target package operations from there and this guy comes up to me and he said, I'm Dave Garcia. He said, I'm the cook. I said, okay, what do you got to cook? He said, I've got two tractor and trailers coming up. One of them has all of my stoves and my cooking equipment. The rest is full of food. He said, what do you want for breakfast? So? What do you mean what I want? So I realized that I should have joined the army. Now, let me ask you back to when you were getting worked on and you had gotten a blast and had to be under your howartz. There was that at the end of your your run or did you have to go back? Did you day? It was about that was about eight months into my first tour. Wow, and they shot me right back and you go right back to what you were doing, right back to it. Yeah. Now is that Are you regretting that? Or you can't wait to get back with your guys and do it and keep going. Well, I regreted the fact that when we drink a nice cold milk, But also you know, it's it's kind of like that teen concept. You're worried about it. You know. While I was gone. Santiago, we had one of our guns took a direct hit and we had four big round powder bags and they caught fire. They burned, they burned white hot, and he got burnt up dragging one of the guys out of there. So it really bothered me because I liked him a whole lot. He's really, really a nice, nice guy. And then we went up to Carol Camp Carol. We took our battery up there, and then one day there were four radio oppers. It was Dave bill Berry, Michael Ivery, and Philip Edmond and myself. Philip and Michael was killed by the same artillery around just lit on all the pieces. And then Dave came running across the ground. I was in a fighting hole and he kept falling down and I realized, you're taking a piece of frap went through his back and collar bone. So I had to put him in the fight and hole with me, put a bottle, put addressing on him, and then wait for the archery attack to abate and get him over to the underground bunker because he lost a lot of blood. And you know, that was just one day and now we're down to one radio offer. Wow, you know this guy, but it will you know It's kind of a fascinating to me how how life works sometimes, because when I went to the wall for the first time, I searched for their names, obviously, and I can't remember. I know it's on the west side. It might be twenty three, might be thirty three. But the wall is set up based upon date to death and then alphabetized. Well, Michael Ivory in Philip Enmon. Both their names begin with eye, and they died side by side and their side. Side on the wall. Oh man, they gave me chills. Yeah, it was pretty cool. And I actually spoke to phil sister. She had called me, and actually Dave Bilbray, who got voted his mother and he called me. And so things work out sometimes. Yeah. So you finished your first and second tour Vietnam, and then you come back. What's after that? What does life look like for you? Then? Well, I wanted to get as far away from the military as as possibly could. And I don't know why, because I've always loved the Marine Corps. I love it today, but just so much turmoil up in d C. And when it came back, they stationed me a Quantica. When the first thing we do is in May seventy one is we get on the bridges. And that was during the time this revolutionaries had decided to meet in d C and go through downtown d C coming out of Georgetown and set cars on fire, so trash cans through windows. So next thing I know, my job was to do physical conditions for oss candidates, and all our leaves were canceled and fifteen thousand Marines gott in cattle cars. We up to Fort Belfore and next morning we were waiting on those bridges, for there were two hundred and fifty of us armed with them sixteen's bayonets, live ammal and there were about eight thousand of them trying to cross the bridge. The Lord and I remember my captain told them ceasing to sist this legal activity. This bridge is being held by the Marines. You're not going to cross this man. Their answers to throw a gas grenade on us, We heat gas. I mean, that's not a big thing for the Marines. Then we went to order arms six bayonets, fourth arms, a magazine and twenty rounds locking load four to march ready to engage. And they weren't so brave then, which pushed them down Georgetown avenue to where the Banana Republic is now, and we had him blocked off with Metro and had him blocked off with DC. I'm sorry, the Maryland State Police. We funnel them right over into a fifty foot wooden wall that went to a three hundred yards and it's the rest of fifteen thousand rings were waiting for. I don't know the history. I don't know this story. So the people that who are the people that you're funneling, who are the revolutionaries here? They are? They are these. The Americans? Oh yeah, they're absolutely just anarchists. They're against the government. Okay, they're absolutely against the military. Wow. And I always felt like a lot of that was because they just didn't stand up and go to war. Yeah, and they've tried to convince themselves. Was this would this be like Jane Fonda. Something, protests would be that these were all They met in Chicago, met in la I'm sorry, and then they met in Chicago, and then the final meeting was here in d C. And they're going to cause much turmoil. There's actually a picture of them on the White House steps mooning. So for you fighting for our country and now you're fighting our country I had to be tough. I mean, you're our own citizens. Well it is, but you I kind of felt like that they what they were doing was and I firmly believe this when they got together, the more they pounded each other on the back, the braver they became. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, and we're going to fight. And my least a lot of them came from my least favorite college in the world of Berkeley. Oh yeah, yeah, boob. And they came up there and they really thought they were tough. Yeah. Well they didn't know tough, right, that's where and they found out real quick. And so anyway, yeah, that answers that question. I guess. So you after that, how long before you're now out? And you're not. About a year and a half. A year and a half. I had the best job. I went over and ran with that little twenty five pound radio I'm sorry, seventy five pound radio, but highway one hundred and fifty five pounds. And I ran three five, seven, nine eleven miles with that on the hill trails with OCS candidates trying to catch me. Wow, And I loved it. It to me was probably one of the funnest things I've ever done so. Brian doesn't know this, but I went to OCS training in Quantico, and if you were training OCS candidates, you were a badass. And it sounds like you are anyway. But I was always impressed. They always brought the baddest dudes for us to go with, and I was like, these are the toughest guys I've ever seen. We would. I enjoyed it so much because I stayed in the gym. I've always lifted, I've always ran. I was a long distance runner for almost twenty years. Yeah, and you've met Steve Boseman. I guess yes. Yeah, Steve and. I have run many many marathons, fifty milers. Well, we've done iron Men, double iron Men together and stuff. And he's a real bad ass. He's my he's my favorite athlete. That's great. Yeah, Yeah, did you win any awards? Accommodations medal? I've got my Well, I had three campaign medals because I was there two years. I've end of service. One I'm most proud of, I'm most surprised by was my good conduct metal across the gallantry our unit got across the gallantry and national offenses. I think it's seven or eight of them, but I have to look at it two fourteen tell you what they are. Yeah, all right, So what is your career after the military at that point in time? Well, I I only wanted to be two things in my life. I started out I wanted to be a farmer, but I knew that wasn't going to work out because I didn't like the frozen ground and I was six months of the year and I love Virginia. So I thought about law enforcement, okay, And I ended up taking a physical fort and the doctor cot me some slack because this year was trashed, and I got the job, and I policed for twenty five years. Then where were in? You were Insford, City of Lynchburg, Okay? Would Bennett be the captain then? Or then it was my chief, my last chief chief chief. Yeah, yeah, by a great chief, probably him and one other, probably my favorite chief. Legend. When Chuck was over dealing with the heads of state in Europe, I was dealing with I was in Afghanistan, Iraq, and we'd. Go back and forth. What are you doing, man, oh, I just had some meskin of go with the president of swal heavy Land or something like. Yeah, Wow. Well he's a great man, good leader. Yeah, yeah, he was wonderful. So you spent twenty five years there, So how do you end up back? How does this happen? I believe and I've always tried to tell all the young officers, do your career, do the twenty five years, and while you're there, go as many schools as you possibly can. So I got to go. I became a hostage negotiator. You know. We did command and control with your tacticle. I was on the first swat team and an advanced tactical and then you take combat life saver, you know, and that kind of stuff. Well, all that stuff along with your weapons calls, you know. And I think my last sixteen years, I shot one hundreds of day and night, spring and fall of all that comes into it, plus my Marine Corps combat history. And I get a call from a guy who was my rookie at the police department. He said, there's a unit, a company, it's well known, and they're going to call this year two thousand and five, the year of the Police. Come over here on a mentor, monitor and advise program. When you got boots on the ground. Let me know, there's some things I want to do with you. So I didn't like the company I worked for, and I'm going to. Tell you who. They were just a bunch of egotistical fools that inflated the resumes and didn't know the first thing about combat. So as soon as I got away from them, I ended up in Mosl when nobody was going out on the street with the military those civilians, and I said, well, this I find. All I'm going to do is to train Iraqi police. I'm going to do the best job I can. And so I started. Thirty two guys had gone to what's called Gyptick in Jordan and had basic police school, and they showed up and they were some of the smartest and the brightest of those guys. Next thing I know, I'm talking to a Special Forces commander. I get a call from this police officer I told you that I trained. He's in a rack up in northern Iraqi's up in her veil. And next thing I know, I'm embedded with Special Forces. Wow. And so together we've continued to train. And the reason that I ended up is not because I'm all that in the box of chips. It just was the fact that I had a real, quantifiable and real resume, and I could help special forces cleaning rooms and a farms instructor and the scent and it was just a marriage made in heaven. I mean, I love those guys. They were I worked with four teams and I'm seeing contact with them now. Wow. And they are consumt of professionals when it comes to blowing doors and going after bad guys. And we did Muslim talif over six hundred explosive entries. Good lord. Yeah, So, Moses, and you had told me when I met you about the movie Moses, and I watched it, and I guess a my first question is and what your thoughts are and this this really has nothing to do with the training that you did, but just your opinion of this. When I watched the movie that one of the things that stood out to me the most is it was a land of rubble. I mean, it looked like the Lego set that you see that they just spill out there and it's a lot like that. So and it was so I mean to me, was it did it once? Was it beautiful? And then this is a recent explosion or is this fifty years of it being torn up? Like that? Most of it came from well a lot of it was during the battle in three, four or five. And you can see all the pock marked. It's the second biggest city of the country. Yeah, oh wow, and it's two point seven million people, sixteen thousand police. But you can see all the damage to the vehicles, and you can see what's amazing is these traffic circles. How little concrete is left around those traffic circles because they put so many IEDs out over the two three years. It just incredible. But isis came in. The very first thing they did was they blew down Jonas Tomb, which is in Moslim. Then they blew the famous gates in Ioware down, trying to make a fashion statement to the people. Then they butchered a lot of the population and some gross in any main ways, a lot of them. So you're right, it is it's just a nightmare. They went in to establish their dominance. They would literally go down the street and I got the videos, well I gave them up. I don't want them anymore an in my computer. Just shooting in family cars, from just killing people, just shooting and killing, you know, pushing boys that they had five ton trucks, pushing boys. You're taking them up to the sand where Oude and Kuss used to have their hair, them shooting in the back of the head, push them in the tigers. Literally that it was the Red Sea up there, and their brutality was unbelievable. That and the fact that he took five, six, seven eight year old child rides. You know, those types of things that America can't really wrap their head around. But that is the. Difference between radical Islam and moderate Moderate is a whole different ball game. So when you're when you're breaking down these doors, what exactly what are you looking for at that point in time. Well, we've evolved a little bit since the Lynchburg Police Department. We take a little bit of sea ford, a dead cord, and an IV bottle and we paste it all together, stick it on a sticky pad, and then we roll it up. We quietly set up over the movement. We dismount, we didn't fill on foot. We push our guys over the wall. We go to the door we're gonna blow and you stick that sticky thing. On the door. Then you look a shot cord to it. When that goes off, that ivy bottle shrinks the center of the metal door and all four corners come in blow the doors off. It's called a water impulse charge. That that's an explosive breach. Inside you've got a ballistic breach with a breaching shotgun, and then you also have a mechanical breach. We didn't do any mechanical breaches. We blew the doors because we wanted them to be really scared when we came through that smoke. So when you bust through or blow through the doors, you're you're are you looking to for people bad guys at that point, or you're trying to get intel. What's well, a target package is a lot more than that. Okay, the target for the Pacific individuals gotcha. One of them proudest missions we did. We got Mohammed Unus who had killed six of our guys with a sniper rifle, and it was a big deal. You go after an individual, you meet with your ground, air, ground and air assets. Everybody sits in on the briefing. It's the primary briefing, and then the briefing before we actually go out that night. Everybody knows a roll and we go up with the black Hawks and we take pictures of the blocks around the objective. And we number them. So if we take fire from thirty two and we're at number one the objective, we could actually laze it with our dreen beams and then our air support just rains. Heck down, go out. To how old are you at this time? I mean, what about what age range are you at? That stile went over there? Fifty six? So I'm fifty five. I was hot today because from my office to my truck. Well, holy cow, well you know fifty five? Was It depends on what kind of fifty five you are? Yeah, well I'm not that kind if you if you go if you go over there. And you look like this when you're sixty two, yeah, I don't look like that. Okay, well, don't share that to Emma. No, all right. So I'm curious at this point. You're a contract how what do you describe yourself as that? Then you're working with special. Forces, but you're I'm a I'm a contract contractor, but I'm not that guy. I'm not that guy that builds the roads. No. Yeah, and. I'm a contractor. But what I I say a tactical contractor? You know, I'm there to train But I'm also what happened was once we got you guys trained, you know every so often that stuff guys are going home. Yeah, So I got to take over the team and hold the team sure and kind of make the transfer from the next team seamless, show them where the bad guys are neighborhoods. Now I become a swat team commander and which is right here, and I have to take care of those guys. I have to feed them, make sure they got water, make sure they got the best equipment. And I gave them the best equipment, and we actually activated acid forfeiture, which is a form I got from the Lynchburg Police Department, and we took the OPD heading off and we put special forces whichever team we were with, and when I would get calls from Rotary, we got guys trying to go through the point entry and they don't want to be caught. We get in the black Hawks, go out and we stop them jump out. On the first two times, we got two of Eco trucks with two five don trucks full of American cigarettes. So we took them up to a bazaar up in the hook where it's safe, where the curds are. I came back with three hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. I gave ten percent of the special Forces team what credit card ten to I'm sorry, thirty percent of the gage. I kept the rest of it for my guys. So my guys didn't have raggedy equipment. I had great weapons system, three hundred wind mags, thermals, silencers, all that stuff. But we regularly did that, and when we would capture somebody, we would take everything they owned and we take it up to the bazar and we sell it. And that way, the American public did not have to fund this team. Yeah, so these are Iraqis that you're training, trying to keep their country from isis? Is that essentially? No, No, this is from ISIS is after me? Okay, all right? Isis is probably four iterations after me. Yeah, and they. We're dealing with it. We made a big mistake, the country did, and saying that, you know, people that worked in the Bath Party couldn't have anything to do with the government and certain and a lot of the people that were in the military could no longer have anything. How many millions of people you put out there trained to fight now they don't have a job and they can't feed their families. That's a good point. Is I'm sorry, I'm jumping in with some questions, but I can't. I can't. I'm curious. Is it is it normal to have a contract work with special Forces or is this an abnormal situation? I would say it's abnormal, okay, yeah? Uh. And actually the first time I met General Petraeus, because of operational security, I didn't know who was coming in and any way, Buddy Mike say, hey, they want you to eat with the the colonel to night. So I went in there and I saw this first sergeant work in the door, and I said, what did you do, first, argeant? Don't work the door to mess on? He laughed with his friend of mine, and everybody calls me Pops. That was my name. Most these people don't know I have any idea what my name is, even the CLO guys. I walk in and there's Malachi. The President, there's a salaw, there's Wathick, and they're sitting at a table this way facing forward, and the head table up there has got command sergeant major I can't remember his last name, Petraeus. It's got my SF Regional Commander Sam Fields my captain at that time, and there's my name up there. I said, what is this all about? I hope I'm not in any trouble. But he actually took me aside and he asked me. He said, why don't you come down to Bagdad and train and teach people to do. What you do? Because you don't like that pretty much, Dow and I didn't want to do that. I don't do get around the flag pole and I said, well, I said, you know, I thought it was command sergeant major was gonna kill me. I said no, I said, I don't want to do that. I said, but understand and astrasa. I thought it was funny. He kind of truckle. I said, I can't teach people from a podium. I can't observe them. I can't certify them. When I've got to have him go through a door with me with the bad guys and watch me do it enough times. Then I'll turn my team over to them. I'll have oversight and then they learned to do what I do, then I'll certify and sent them to You thought that was. A great idea. Oh yeah, but no. To answer your question, very few people there were a few people I never expected to live with them. I was with them all the time training and they love my guys. It was really funny how much they liked my guys. Are you are they speaking Persia or a Persian? What do they'd speak? And how Parsi? How are you? How are you able to get over that? I have this awesome, awesome interpreter who was an Egyptian. His name is Amir Banub. He's been an American citizen for twelve years. Emir couldn't hit that wall with a rifle. He was quite possibly the worst shot. But you haven't met Briant in season. Well, as it turns out, I got him a big, old, beautiful cold steel knife, which would come back to bite me in the tale later. But Emir translated for me, and because of his age, like my age, he was my age air of respect age and most of my guys would call me grandfather or something that didn't bother me, and my favorite one would call me daddy. You know. But that interaction between the SF guys, they come over to my I had a compound built just for the team, four towers up there with bel Fizz, four fighting positions to get to it because everybody hated my guys. Yea, their bad voice. My guys from Special Forces. We drive over and play volleyball with them, we'd eat with them. Well, I'll tell you something that's really struck several people. I didn't strike me too much. But before we go out, we take turns, you know, just thanking the Lord for deliverance, please bring us back, and on one piece, nobody gets harmless, do our job, do the mission, bring everybody home safe. And we come back in and somebody would say, thank you Lord for deliverance, and everybody, oh, run off we go. Well, the herbs were so impressed by that. They came to me said, Pops, can we pray with you? Oh? Wow? Man. So we let them get into the circle of our SF guys and they would pray first, and then we would pray to totally different religions. You know, that's beautiful. And it was. And Big o'sama not no relation, but been a loaded was a great big guy. He had sixteen five e feet. He had never worn shoes, he had sandals. So one day I convinced him I wanted to outline his foot and I told him I'm going to make a set of wooden shoes for you. And then I went on ahead and I took my took to his space with my team nogging, and I sent it to dinner. Boots. It made two pair of boots free of charge. Oh my goodness, you have to sing those things. They were boots. He was just a great big guy. He literally sit there and cried, put those boots on somebody. I got a bunch of thoroughlol socks for him too, and he's, I have boots, I have boots. And boy he was when I would stay with my guys, which is not really smart, uh, and not sleep with my SF team once in a while, once a while, I he's on over there. They psd me over there. And I had a room up there, and my room had a bed and a table, my computer and everything, and I was in constant contact with s IF. Ever, fifteen minutes away, Big Osama would lay with his back against my door. My hinges are inbound on his mattress. Was rifle to get to me. They had to get through him. People talk about the lack of camaraderie between. The herbs and the soldier. You just don't know the herbs, and when you actually sit down and talk to him. You literally become part of their family when you're feeding their wife and children when they get married. They gave money. They don't want ribbons, they don't want metals. They want money. Barricot, Hammish, Sard and Saudi all three got shot. We got ambushed. Hamish is laying there. We're blowing the windows out of this little compound. Barricott grows out and grabs Hammish. He's dragging him backwards. He brings his rifle up to shoot at this guy in this far left corner, and the guy shoots him. Thro's the receiver. His rifle familiar with an a K. There's a release block. It's pressured in there. You left that and your receiver comes out shot him right through it. I got that at home, by the way. Wow. Bearcott drops to one knee, takes Hammish's rifle, shoots the guy in the window, and then drags Hammish back down to me. And I had some frags and he kept trying to tell me. Mir says, give him the fags, giving the friend. So he shot not badly. He's got pieces. He goes up and throws the frags through the windows. Wow, you know when you do stuff, he's a curd yeah, and a curgy when you do stuff for those guys. When you show him you care about him, you can sit down as a Christian and you can talk to him. But you don't want to do that unless you're really close to him because it offends them. But we would go through things like, Pops, what do you know? What do you know about about my people? I said, what do you want to know? Yeah? I said, Abraham had a wife. Her name was Sarah. She couldn't conceive, gave her hand maybe Hagar Hagar, yeah, Ismael, Yeah, yeah. They're going crazy. And I said, and then they went from fussing back and forth like they're going to do to the wives and the child. And God promised her that their children be like the sands of the earth and the seas, and off they go. I said, why do you hate the Jews? I said, you have the same father Abraham. He's buried and he's buried in i Raq And they think about that, but they've been told her there's no Holocaust. Well, they've been lied to by everybody. So I'm curious just for my own curiosity. Uh, I'm a fan or listen to John McPhee. Did you ever come cross paths with the guy? I guess it was named the Sheriff of Baghdad for his special forces stuff over there. I was just curious if he'll cross. Path No, we stayed up in Mosul. None of us want to go down to Baghdad. Yeah, two men the stars down there. Ah, you know that makes sense? Do you do you see Moses ever? I mean when I look at these cities, when I look at Gayza, and I look at what Lebanon, When I look at these these cities are rubble, I wonder is there hope? Are those people that are there foundations good enough that it could be built back? Could can it ever be built back? It can be built back. The actual mechanics are building, the building can be It can be built back, and they can have a structured government. But you're always going to have the tribal difficulties between issues of the Kurds, you know as Soon's, and you're. Going to have that. That's that's in their lineage, and they're always going to try to work together to the point where they can come out on top. Yeah, it's just they've been that way. Their entire life. Yeah, it can rebuild, but you'll always have that issue going on. I wonder a city of two points a million, I whan they built it at one time they had those things up, you know, and it just doesn't I just want to when did it all start looking like that? Well? Can you? I guess what's what you got to worry about is who's in charge of the who's in charge? And Saddam was unbelievably brutal. His uh he had a castle. Uh. We took his castle and we used it for our headquarters. Beautiful, unbelievable, gorgeous mosaics and marbles, just extraordinary. And the people are out there going through plastic looking for some kind of little food in it, you know. And Udankuse they just did whatever they wanted. They raped, they murdered, they did anything they wanted, and the people despised. And when we killed them, they actually made a dump sight where their house was. And but then again it's it's based upon was Saddam good to you or was he not good? Huh? Yeah? Wow. You before we came on air, you mentioned rescuing or saving a rich a wealthy person's daughter. Can you talk about that a little bit. Well, we were We didn't do a lot of things at the daytime. A few things. We did all our target packages at night, but occasionally we had to go out for different things. And I can't remember which team this was. I think it was my second team seventy one. We were traveling parallel to the Tiger's River and we called it Root Lexus. It was a code name for it. We had roots named for vehicles and stuff. And a white ASV crossed over from two lanes and hit our ASV and blew up and it was a suicide. Well it spun its sideways, but it didn't hurt any of our guys. But we dismounted and we could see people were injured. Two adult mothers were dead, child was dead, one child was wounded in her torso. And I got to a little girl and she had a yellow sun dress on and she was missing pretty much everything above her knee and big junks with the calf out of her right leg. And I'm just a simple combat lifesaver. I'm not a medic, but I know enough skin and DearS how the femeral artery works. And we had talked many times about this. The medics and stuff trying to update us and give us a hand. So first time I put a fernque on, she's still believing. So I just to go farther up, and again she's still believing. Next time it comes up and starts dribbling. Well, I can see something, and I realized when I clean it off, it's her femeral. So I take a Hema stat and I pull it. When it comes out in pieces, go a little bit farther. The same thing happened the third time out. It comes as whole, So I put another Hema stat on it, clamping down and put bloodstoppers on it, wrap it real good and deal with her calf. And I told the medic and he agreed she won't make it because if she goes to the Algebray Hospital in mosll AT's a slaughter house. And I felt such pretty little girl, cute as a button. She was about nine, maybe ten. So we fast forward a few months and when we get a call through the brigade, brigade wants to talk to me and the captain and we go down and we talked. Shak Abdullah, who controls all the points of entry into a rack, is the uncle to this little girl. And. He was able to find out which team you know, and then also ineverbally who it was that passed up. So we end up going out in the desert four our trip on the most miserable trip of my life. Two of my guys in the back seat, two of my operators heat exhaustion, passed out and so hot. It was so hot that I took my Nomax gloves off and touched my rifle and it burnt my hands. So I hold around out of the chamber, drop the bag and everything. Same thing with my handgun, and got the inner guys and the inner vehicles do the same thing. And then we had to take these guys out and deal with them. But that's definitely a story for off the air and make sure that they were hydrated. And then we went to this guy's I mean, all I can say it was just an oasis palace. It was this huge, thick walled, heavily machine gun torrents on top with this great big thick gate, big gears and stuff. And the closer you get to it, you see these pipes coming out of the ground. That's his irrigation pipes going to his I don't know what's other than the oasis guys. And they opened the. Gate and we come through and we get out and we take our body arm or out and we throw it in the trunk or battle helmets out. Block our weapons in the trunk. Just take our side arms with us. And this guy comes out and he just introduces himself. He has an American interpreter there of course, the mirrors with me, and then his brother comes out and his brother wants to find me and if and he starts crying, and you know, she was sent to Austria. Keeps saying Switzerland, but she was sent to Austria. Flew right out of the country and saved her life, you know. So we spent several days there. I got to watch him fly falcons and he had beautiful Rabian horses. He had butlers and waiters and the most beautiful gardens you've ever seen. Katy was gorgeous. And then of course we had to go back to the crap. That's a great story. Yeah, wow, that's pretty cool. Well, before we get you out of here, because we do appreciate you coming in. We always finish off our interviews with a question if you could pick anybody in history. Who would you pick to spend twenty four hours with and where would you spend with him? Well, that's absolutely no problem mans that Jesus up in heaven. That's where I want to be. Absolutely, that's fantastic. Well, you're listening to Life Liberty how wefness in their American hero stories, Marine Corps, Vietnam veteran Gregory, meet him? Thank you. Eat Insurance in Bedford. I'm David Honeker, local State Farm agent. Whether it's home, auto or life insurance, You've got you covered with personalized service and great rates. Let us help you protect what matters most with the reliability and trust of State Farm. 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She had tattoos from head to toe and they were solving crimes based on her tattoos. Right, But then now it's turned into anti government, anti and it's a liberal but then they save the world from this liberal. Like I don't know, it's hard to explain, and it's like one of those things where you're like, come on, like, just do a good story. I give up on it after once it gets into that. If it gets too much into that, then yeah. It was. It was a Pakistan Pakistani lady who was now working for the NSSA, and she's in an interview and she goes, do you know how hard it was to be could be a woman in the ns You know, it's like, come on, just do the show. I don't need to. Yes, I can imagine it was hard for a Pakistani to become, you know, part of the NSA. But give up on it, right, did you have to say it, like, we can watch the show. I don't need to know. That's why whenever I think that they're sucking me in and then they want to spend some woke stuff on me, Yeah, I quit. I just I'm not gonna keep doing it. But I'm still watching. By the way, we got a text message from a listener that said, where did you guys find this badass? I'm scared of him and I'm just listening. He was phenomenal. Oh man, that was so cool. I mean that interview was all of them. Honestly, I love all of these all of their stories. It didn't hit me to you asked the question, Wait a minute, how old were you? Were you in Iraq? Yeah, you retired before you went. Right, fifty six years old. And the dudes over there were special Forces busting indoors depict made me cackle. Yeah, it's crazy, Like, listen, we this is kind of drama. I guess if you talk about it. But I don't think people around here understand how lucky we have that Bedford is the same way. They do a lot of training in the city of Lynchburg. I happen to know a few police officers there now the chief. I knew him when he was a captain Zudema. Like, they're they're pretty good, you know what I mean, They're nationally accredited. They get a lot of retired military like, we should be fortunate that we have that kind of talent. Which brings me into my drama. So the Netflix thing, Mozel is an excellent movie. It's a little different in the fact and man as Crazy is I subtitle everything, Like I just I watched clothes captioning for everything me too, So I find myself reading And I was honestly watching that movie and I realized I was probably maybe ten minutes into it realizing, oh, they're speaking Farsi the entire time. So the movie is only in Farsie. It is a Mosill movie of Moses people. It is like that. And what is really cool is watching that and then listening to his story because it talks about the training and going in the doors. Those guys were doing that and and they got to training from them. They look like our police force, and they were called Swat and that's what he's got tattooed on his arm. Yeah, dude, now that you watch it and you see Swat, you're like that was the baddest dudes. The our Raqis were afraid of swat they Yeah, oh it was really good. So Moses was definitely something to watch, especially after listening to this. I tell you what. It's also interesting because you get I watched the news, you do this thing, and you get kind of caught up in should we have left Hussein Saddam Hussein in power? Yeah? Right? I even wondered that one. Political Yeah, but then you hear stuff like that. Somebody who's there it sees the gruesomeness and not that we're we should you know, we don't need to be regime changing, right. But at the same time, you know, you just you hear of stories like that and they go, well, are they any better off today? Well, I don't think they have a leader that's doing the stuff that he was doing. Yeah, but I don't you know, I know, I just wonder that stuff too. I don't know that there's a right answer, you know, because some people make it seem so simple. Oh, we just need to forget everybody else and just take care of America. I'm an American first guy, but they will come here. What I love about our stories is that story he told about saving that little girl. Yeah. Yeah, the suicide bomber is one of them. Yes, he kills his own people, doesn't care that it's women and little girls, has no regard to that. And a man that doesn't even live there saves a nine year old little girl. That is what we do. That's our country. Yeah. Do you think he asked her before he started working on her? You know? Yeah? Are you this? Are you that? No, he just went to town and said, I kind of love those things. So my other drama, Man, I know you love a documentary like I love the documentary but that new one that Netflix just released on the ocean Gate. Okay, so I'm also an engineer, so okay, you know what ocean Gate was, right. Ocean Gate was that some submarine, the submersial where the guy that white submersible and we spent a week trying to rescue them, to find it because remember at the time, we weren't sure if they just went down to the bottom and had no air and we had to try to find them because they had forty eight hours of air. It will infuriate you to know about this guy. He was crazy, right, He was intelligently smart, thought he was elon musk of the ocean and he was going to do it his way no matter what people. And dude, Okay, I'm sort of afraid of the ocean, like when you go out in a ship. If I was in the Marines, I'd want to be on the land as quickly as I could get. And I'm not an idea of sinking to the bottom of the ocean. And when they're testing this thing and he's in it and you hear the thing popping and pinging, they have it on video and audio, it is scary as all get out. Speaking of that, you just reminded me, Emma, I have put in a purchase order for new chairs for here, yes you, yeah, while the show was going on, because I couldn't take one more popping of a chair, the squeaking. Yeah. So it did that the first time we had an internet, and it hasn't been done. I know what, I don't know if you. I literally put a purchase order in the middle of the show. Yeah. Did you see some of the comments on your new post that I posted earlier? Mmmm, You're gonna have to be more specific, because I did see some. Lol. These two never watched the NBA. Oh yeah, yeah, is the woke in the room with us right now. Yeah, I've watched I've watched more NBA than that guy has entire life. So anyway, on the sports. It's time for sports, alright. SVG wins in Chicago, not a maz not a surprize, but the way he did it was even more impressive. Saturday and Sunday he won both races. Yeah, he's just the only way to describe it is smooth like all the rest of them, like even when like I don't know if you watch Saturday's race, but he had to he had to move his teammate to win, Connor Zillich, which don't even start. That kid's eighteen. Yeah, like he's going to be And I loved his interview after it was raw. It was you know, I guess I need to learn how to get my elbow, you know, like he understood I wasn't expecting him to move me. But he also admitted that he made a mistake. He didn't get in front of him when he could have. But you know, it's one of those things where even when he does that, he's so smooth at it that it wasn't this blatant get out of the way. It was just enough to get him off of his axis and he ends up scraping the wall and that's how he ended up winning. So when they switched from Prime to now T and T, yeah, I'm always hoping that it's not Jeff Burton and not Latart. Correct. Okay, so now it's not Jeff Burton, ChRI. It's great. He's on a different channel, and I'm so glad and Larry Mack can do what they do. But Latart just annoys me so much. I can't stand listen to him. So they are simulcasting these races, yes, on Max, HBO, the Max, the Max channel, and I still can't get it. But go ahead, Okay, so I can't. I go on Max and I get the channels and they let you. I mean, of all ninety nine drivers or the number one to ninety nine, you pick whichever driver you want. You can go back and watch the race. You can watch it midway. You can if an accident happens, you can rewind and go back to see what happened. And you get to hear the n car voice. Yes, you don't hear any radio broadcast. Right. That was the best way for me to watch that race because I stayed with SVG almost the entire time, just watching him get so close to those corners and just you said, smooth. It was just smooth. Yeah, He's just smooth. It's all it is to it. And it's what's crazy is we grew up our whole life watching road course racing in NASCAR and it was sort of they have to do it twice a year, so yeah, it's interesting to see who is at the top. Yeah, like the others tried to get better, but they never really got good at it. Right, But you always had these ringers remember those? But can you name a ringer ever winning a race that you and I watched growing up? Like it was still always earn Hard. Or well the guy from Australia Okay, later on, Ambrose, Ambrose later on, but not oh wait, back in the. Day, not Ricky Rudd and those guys like those were the guys who won, and everybody else sucked at it. Yeah, and even when they had a ringer, Bor said, they never they never won. This guy comes. Here as a rookie, wins his first I mean, if you. Call him a ringer, yeah, like damn, he's that much better than everybody else. I saw Denny Hamlin talk about that he thought that his success is even better than the older days because the cars are so much equal now it's really driver talent. So I'm curious because on the last restart, you weren't listening to the broadcast Steve Letart. They literally played the in car radio of Gibbs. Oh. I didn't check him. I was in second. I did about eight or ten different drivers I watched. So his crew chief is giving him SVG's data of how he gets into the turn where he's different than him. He's given giving him all of that data. And dude, it didn't have to be said. You could hear Steve Lettart go into this whole spiel of you know, this is great information, blah blah blah. He never said a word, but I guarantee you if they had just asked what do you think of that? Dale, you know what he'd have said. I'd have told him to shut the f up let me drive, because that's what it's It was quiet. Yeah, he never said, okay, I'll do that. You know, you know you do that on Monday when you're trying to review how you could have done better, which is what Formula one does, right, they compare the two and then you train all the way before you go back to Chicago. He's not listening to that data. On two with two laps to go, He's trying to figure out how am I going to beat SVG and you're telling him, hey, you need to you know, let off about one hundred yards before you know, shut up. So a really cool feature of that. I didn't think about it to the next day. I just saw the accent because I wasn't really watching the race, and they threw out the caution flag. So that guy Cody Ware Did you see that? Did you see the video from the fans perspective where he went by? I mean he went from left to right on the screen like that, and he just crashes into the tires. So the next day I went back and I watched that his in car camera. They put the telemetry up so you get to see him. He's going one hundred and twenty one miles an hour when either a tire blows or something pops on the right side and he realizes he's going to go headfirst into the tires, so he starts scraping the wall, I think to slow himself. I went and rewounded in slow motion when he hit the tires, he was at ninety two miles an hour, wow to zero. I thought, this guy's dead. I thought the same thing. So what's crazy is did you hear the in car cam where you hear his spoder? First of all, this spiders goes or in the tires. Listen. I learned a little bit that I didn't know. They can't see the turn, I know, but they were going off Amazon or T and T and they hadn't shown yeah, the actual wreck. They just should showed him in the tires. Yeah, and so that's why he made that comment. But I know that he said it though. And then Cody Ware you can just hear him go I need help, yes, And I was like, oh my god, this dude. Yeah, and he got himself out of the car and walked behind the car. Razy that guy that had to hurt. Did they ever say if he's okay? I guess he's yeah. I mean I don't know any different. YEP. I just cannot believe. And I saw it was on the Dale Earnhart special that they did. You know, not one single driver has died since dal Warnhart. Yeah, it's crazy. Isn't that amazing that Hans device that came because of him? There's no way that wreck that this guy just did. Yeah, it reminded me of the one. Did you ever see the famous one that. Jimmie Johnson skipping across. That might have been Sonoma or why? I can't think so. And he just and just kept going into the thing, and he says, I think he says to this day, that's his hardest hit that he's ever had. But this was on the street. He never had grass or anything's on him down. Well, they'll be in Sonoma this weekend. We'll have our picks coming up a little later on. It's Kevin Colin. Uh, don't know, don't care. I mean, I don't say that, but he he said he didn't know. I don't mind Sonoma. We'll see. I still like it because it's the historic one. Yeah, So no man, Watkins Glenn, I keep those two. Yeah, but the other ones. I mean, they need to reduce the number of road courts. It's crazy, not increase. Yeah, I agree, one undred one. Thing I do want to check out that I haven't seen yet, Dale Junior download Uh. He has interviewed Carson Josovar in this past week. Oh wow, So I. Actually want to go see that because I think Carson is NASCAR's future. Yeah, if they don't ruin him the way they kind of have ruined. Yeah. Uh Chastine the n car of Austin Dillon after that wreck that host of ar started. Yeah, Austin Dillon is a punk. How about how about Junior this week suggesting. Austin needs to get out. Listen, you need to have an exit strategy if your plan is to take over our CR one day. Yeah, you can't keep doing what you're doing and then just flip a switch and become an owner. I never realized Austin Dillon's dad is the one that runs everything. Yeah, I didn't know that. Apple don't not a lot of winning going on over there, all right, yuh F one if you uh, you just got me. F one was in Silverstone this week. Silverston Silverstone, h. M. McLaren was the class of the field. Although I'm telling you, dude, if you ever watch qualifying, it's fascinating to see Max still beat them in qualifying. Yeah, he gets everything. Like they They interviewed Zach Brown and he's talking Ferrari and Mercedes, and these are going to be the ones battling and if we hit our marks, we should be okay. Yeah, never mentioned Max because Max was like sixth yeah coming out of Q two, right, Yeah, they got that. He got that rivalry though he doesn't want to give him any. No, but he lays down the lap and it's like, oh, whoa where did that come from? And again he wins pole, but then he just doesn't have a car. And of course the shocking news that came this morning, huge was that shocking to you? Shocking dude? I woke up to it and I'm like, what, yep, So Christian Horner is out. Yeah, he is the only CEO that Red Bulls ever had. Yeah, he has had it from its inception. And when I sent you that stat today, I was blown away. Out of that many races that dude has won thirty percent of the races ever started. I did hear this weekend and made me go, oh, you don't really hear over stap and say though he was yelling about how slow they are, right, so he's been used to being in the front. Yeah, but he's saying how slow he is and that second car and not being able to get the right driver or whatever they're doing with their second car. Yeah. I guess whoever, the Red Bull powers that be were just tired of it. But surely he's had some down years in those twenty years. Yeah, and I guess just the whole thing. There's got to be more to it, even over Stappen's dad. It has to be a part of the mix. Oh yes, I thought that too. But I but then again, like Logan mentioned to me, he goes, watch watch it be Connor Zilich and Max for Stapping driving the Cadillac next year, I was like, oh god, that would be good. Yeah, but anyway. Do you think so in Cadillac is that Andretti's team? Yes, so it's not likely someone that's going to let Richard Warner come in that's starting a team, because that's saying something Andretti would have want to run. I don't know, you know, let's see him being a team manager. How about has turn it all around? Yeah? Oh, your guy Nico Polkenberg. Oh incredible, And him and Max are closed. That was awesome to see them high fiving and stuff. I didn't realize in. It wild that guy. How many years of racing did he do without ever being on a podium. Yeah, it's crazy. I thought he was a former champion. I don't know why I thought. And then the guy we hated so much of Ferrari goes to this team because they're so bad in the first this is his first race. Yeah, they end up third, and they make a strategy decision to win, Yeah, or to be in third. It's crazy. Yeah, that was wild. Did you also have to thought, I can't wait to watch Driven this year? Yes, for a Netflix. Yeah, I'd like to see what happened with Christian So I mentioned, and I didn't know this, to be honest with you. I said, he doesn't need to go anywhere and probably retire. And then somebody said, dude, he's fifty one. I had no idea he was that young. Wow. Yeah, he's gonna go somewhere. Yeah, of course that's me, although I don't think Cadillac. Somebody else said the there's another Honda wants to get back in or something, so Toyota was It's something I can't remember. Anyway, F one was good. They're off this week, so yeah. Anyway, Wimbledon we talked about a little earlier. So do you have anything else in sport. Mm hmmm, it's kind of a down time. Yep. NAT's fired their manager and general manager. Rizzo's gone. Yeah, as you know, at some point, I mean, he's very good at what he did, and is anyone, but at some point you gotta make it. You got to make a fresh on that's a good question. Is Rizzo original? And they've been around forever right here? So yeah, interesting, So we'll see what happens with that franchise now that Rizzo's gone. All right, moving on what's happening. It's time for news. Mm hmmm, all right, it's getting a little more play. Although this is what I don't understand. So the guy who ran in the Democrat primary who beat Cuomo, right. Which I need to give you props on that. When you first played that, I was like, oh, come on, what was gonna win dude? These polls, and then to find out he got the most votes of any Democrat candidate like in the history, which is even worse. Like, here's what I don't understand is this a was this purposely done by Adams and some of those to not talk about him, and then he ends up getting the nomination so that they can beat him in the general election because all this bad pub has come out after the fact, and dude, some of the stuff he's done is downright scary. The stuff he's suggesting. You go, who voted for this? There's no way the people that want free shit? I mean, that's really what it comes down to. But Manhattan has got to be filled with the wealthy. Well, first off, look at the structure of what they've been doing, and they're prime for this. They ran off the tax base. I mean, then you run it off and now they're down to they want free shit. So, Emma, this guy's talked about basically running the grocery industry if he's elected. So New York Manhattan, Oh yeah, I heard you, all right, So this is a Bedega owner, yeah, which now provides groceries to the communities. So this is his response to this on Elizabeth Varda Reports cut one. Why would one grocery store in each borough put Bedega's out of business? Kancer starts with a small cell in your body, and if you don't extract it, it spreads. You start with one idea like this, a foolish idea, it may spread and we don't want it to get to that if he decides that one store work, maybe two stores would or maybe one hundred. Stores will work. And if you let him spread his ignorance, because this is being ignorant, really, then we have a huge problem. Why is it ignorant. It's ignorant because most bodega owners are immigrants. They come from a very poor from very poor countries, and they come here to try to make a living and do the right thing by the city of Bodega's not just the way you sell food, so they're also community centers. So if you're able to infiltrate government into private into the private sector, you're basically ruining the dreams and the spirits of all these small business people who have risked everything, they have borrowed everything they could borrow to open their small business. It doesn't make sense because not only will it hurt the people he claims he's trying to help, he's going to drive a lot of these businesses out of business, or he's going to scare people. It's like scared of ice, Like people are scared of people like Mndami that will come in and start opening up businesses and giving food away and competing with those that I've invested their money into into their small business. Wow. So these guys come from countries and that's where they've done this, right, they see what happened, and you have a communist grocery store when you don't have any competition, they get to control the prices. And this guy's hatred for Jews, he doesn't hide it. He literally says if net and Yahoo was coming to New York, he would have him arrested. Yeah, I mean, this is the joke that you've got that you're probably gonna elect. And as New York goes, other cities are going to end up campaigning and trying to do the same thing. It's just awful to think we've gotten to that point. Man. The Blue cities are not recuperating. They're not recovering. They're going the wrong direction. Yes, and they used to be Yeah, yeah, they were the heartbeat of America. Like you know what I mean, it was cool. We're like, let's go to New York, Let's go to Chicago. Who no way. So in the most horrible interview I've seen in while Tucker is interviewing Ted Cruz, but Tucker made, I mean, is a horrible interview. It was just then yelling at each other. But Tucker makes a great, great point, stop bombing other countries. Yeah, and go to Moscow and see how clean that city is, and care about our cities. And we have let our cities go because we have said the Dems control those We're just going to let them them run it. And they're running them in the ground and they're now they're scary. Would you walk downtown Baltimore? No? Right, No, I mean, what have we done? No? But and so I guess I try to always go all right, so what's the answer, And then I think, well, damn it. Rudy Giuliani changed New York. It was nasty, it was awful, and he did change it for the better. So they're not doing it the way Rudy did. They're going the opposite direction. I know. So it's gonna it's gonna be sad. Yeah, it is all right. Moving on two, the big beautiful bill passed. I would love for us to start giving more credit to Mike Johnson. And I know I've said that twice, but you still have to legislate. And that dude literally I remember Democrats in hosts basically saying this dude has no chance of getting bills passed because of his slim majority. If he's this effective with this slim majority, how would he do if we actually added a seat or two coming I mean in his you know, second half of Trump's term. So anyway, the big beautiful bill did pass. And this was the response that I found from a uh TikTok of a gentleman. Because the Dems have told us what they've cut Medicare, They've cut Medicaid, social Security is ending the whole nine right. Yeah, And this was an older gentleman who made this TikTok clip cut too. I'm still getting my Social Security chase. Oh, I'm still getting my solid security check. Oh, I'm still getting my soci Security checked. My Medica ain't been castled, Jack, I'm still getting my SOO Security check. In all honesty, our whole lives. Every election they have said Republicans are getting rid of Medicare, yeah, and cutting benefits and lives are being lost. Have you ever met one person that said, I used to get medicare man, and after they voted on that bill, I don't get it anymore. Well, so it's funny you say that. So I have this comment that I send to myself. And I know Emma thinks that I've sent all the videos I could. There's double what I can, and one of them I make is this is why they wanted to shut down. TikTok. That right there is why they wanted to shut down. Sure, that's a black man that had make America great again, had on and he's singing that he still has a Social Security check because he knows the news would never have said that. What do they say they? What do they always say? Elizabeth Warren? All right, the news would have found someone that didn't get their check and they would have made that the state, Sure, because they controlled the narrative. Now they don't. Well, it's like the Texas flood. You're exactly right. A horrible event happens. Oh my god, I can't even watch the news man. When I said, little girls, I can't say it and listen. They're at a Christian camp most of the you know, that's what. But a flood happened. Yeah, okay, a flood happened. Yeah. And here's what angers me more than anything. Camille happened here right, all right? You want who's blame? Why are you want to blame? Oh my god? The doze cuts. Yeah cause this, Yeah, because in terms, that's a lie. It's an absolute lie. Yeah. Why does every single time that there's a tragedy we have to blame something. You know how I know it was a lie because there was no one from the Weather Service that said, hey, I used to do that job and I'm not. They just say it. And that's why. You know, if they could find someone that said I would have been there at two am that morning, but I wasn't there. Yeah. What they don't tell you is they were doing warnings. But man, it was two in the morning. It was four in the morning that that river rose thirty feet in two hours. Yeah, I mean, and that's what happened at when Camille came through. That was a night time people were sleeping in the river and the mountains were just melting away. Right those nights, those nighttime ones are just. Stop looking at the government to fix everything you can't. Yeah, there's a thing called active god. Yeah, sometimes you know that just real. The only thing I want to say about that, which you just said, and I'm so glad you did, is I pray it was an active god. Because I saw that guy on Sean Ryan talk about the weather seating that we're doing. Yeah, and there's I've seen enough tiktoks here in the last week that there is somebody that said that they did weather seating. If they did that and that cause it, because that's one of the that's one of the Remember Saudi Arabia had that last year. It was a flood that just wiped out that whole city. They attributed it to weather seating. Okay, if if that happened, that would bother me so much. That's something I really hope we make illegal. It just you can't play with God. You can't try to change the weather. Did you see one hundred and sixty people are still missing? Oh my god, it's crazy. So that'll put it up around two hundred people, two fifty. It's m m, you're in nineteen people have died so far. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah. You get thirty feet of water, you know, coming that quickly, you know. Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate. It's a really good interview with the guy on Sean Ryan that talks about seating clouds and how it works, and it's really really interesting and how it can actually get out of control too. So there's a lot of factors before you can even try to do it, that you shouldn't do it without the right variables. But no, that's that's a really you should find that interview that Sean Ryan did. Did you see fascinating the officer that saved like two hundred girls at that camp, a young guy. Yeah, it's like his first rescue mission. Yes, yeah, all right, you got anything, m I'm gonna have at it at some point. Okay, onto win, win, win. Win, and we're gonna make America great again. You see that those words up there, that motto, It says in God we trust right above the speakers, roskam. You know a previous Congress put that there in the early. Sixties and the height of the Cold War. There's a little visitors guide that people get when you do tours late at night. You've probably seen your constituents and visitors and friends get the guide. If you turn. I think it's about to page twenty one. It explains why that's there, and. It says Congress voted to put that there as a rebuke to the Soviets worldview at the height of the Cold War. Why because communists socialism find their root in Marxism, and Marxism begins with the belief that there is no God. It's wrong, and this Congress made us stand those many years ago. We should do it again. We're different, we're distinct, we're exceptional because we acknowledge that. Right there, our motto it doesn't say in government we trust, It says in God we trust. And we better remember that. Wow, that's really good. Hey did you notice? So that was that was the speech that he gave when they won, right when they got the big beautiful bill done. Okay, I know, and they don't do stuff by mistake. Right behind his right shoulder was John McGuire. Okay, that was a signal. That was a signal to the people like Bob Good to Tom Massey, and John McGuire is sitting there. You're not you need to get on board. I mean, I swear that's why, of all people they put John McGuire behind him there. That's interesting. There was a lot of little things. First of all, if you're a Democrat, in all honesty, it's shameful that you literally you're you're in They're praising a guy that spoke for twelve hours or wherever. How long it was that's so dumb. It's so dumb. And please tell me you saw what Mike Johnson did when he got it. When he got up to give that speed. Brought the big binder out like he was going to talk for twelve hours. Did we lose a monitor? Hey, Emma, I think we lost the monitor here, but. She fell asleep in her screen. No, he doesn't break things. I haven't touched anything. It's fine over here, all right. Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore. Oh, by the way, that's been catching on even locally. We have people doing their own Mount Rushmore. Hey, invitation is imitation is flattery. Yes, so thank you, Emma. Today's Mount Rushmore is single season performances. These are athletes, yep. Single seasons and performances yep. So who you got? So I'm starting with Tiger Woods in year two thousand when he just just obliterated the p tour. Yeah. Cam Newton when he wielded Auburn into a title. That's a good one. Greg Maddox in nineteen ninety five when he just was phenomenal. He went nineteen and two with a one point sixty three e Ra wow. I was thinking about Pictures two, who was also Donerant. There was that time with Randy Johnson where he just mowed people down. You know. Yeah, he's another good one that you could have. You just made me looked up and I'll go back to it anyway. Uh. Kurt Warner, he had a hell of a season. That one year that he took the Rams, the greatest show on turf. Yeah, that was so much fun to watch. Yeah. And then Joe Burrow when he was at LSU and had that phenomenal season. I had not thought of him, but I wish I had put him on my list because that was a phenomenal season. Great team, but man, a phenomenal season. Yeah. I mean it's easy to go. Look he at Jamar Chase and what they are. I mean, you didn't know, correct, But how about didn't my guy with the Redskins, Daniels, didn't he break the records that Joe Burrow had in that season his senior year, yeah, or his last year? For mine, I did the same thing, so I do. I just closed my eyes and start thinking to people. And what I love is how we have listeners message us that who we missed on something, which is true. I mean it's not like I do much research here. But Tiger I can remember, just like you did. It was almost like watching SVG in racing Tiger on Sunday. Was just fun to watch him dominate, I mean, pulling away from people was just incredible. You won't remember this because you probably weren't old enough. But nineteen eighty four, Michael Jordan, he had a year where he won the national title, he won the gold medal, and he was the Rookie of the Year in the NBA. Oh man, what a heck of a year that that was. Man. I was trying to think of football players, and I remember Peyton Manning and I can't remember if it was with the Colts or with Denver or maybe both, that he had all those touchdowns and it was the Colt Yeah, oh man, Remember he couldn't really throw, That's true. He had gotten that had that neck problem. You're right, so it was Yeah, it was definitely with the Colts he was. Yeah, he was throwing touchdowns like crazy. So I was thinking in baseball, the two on my Mount Rushmore would be double headed, would be Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa. Yeah, that season that they had. Yeah, but then the next year Barry Bonds goes and breaks it. Yeah, I don't know. You almost have to reck them down there killing I don't know. Two thousand and fours is it twenty years ago? I have no idea who you're talking about. Oh my gosh, you really don't know. I was like two. So my fifth head would be Wayne Gretzky back when he was the dominant force. I just remember. I was really young at that time. But I remember being on the news every night how dominant he was. It was nineteen ninety eight, ninety eight. I missed it about five years negative four. Look, but that listen, your evening news would lead with them too. Yeah, who hit a home run? Because they were neck and neck going. For Roger Morris's record? Yeah, no one who did sixty one since sixty one? Yeah? And then if I had to have a woman because Emma says we have to have a woman, No, I do we have to have a woman on every mount Rushmore? Or you just say, well, I just said you didn't have any this week. That's what I said. That's all I said. I was trying to think of the best woman domination season and Serena I guess in tennis, I can't I can't think of another one. All right, so give us yours all your women. I got two women, okay. Brianna Stewart, she won four national championships. It was that she plays for Liberty WN. She went to Yukon. She won four national champions I. Mean that would be four seasons this one. You are correct her year. She if she walked in here, I wouldn't know who she is. Oh really, she's pretty pretty good? Uh pretty, I would say good. I said pretty good. She's also won like. She was the m v P. No. She's also one w NBA finals a couple of times. Yeah, okay, she just pulled her up on screen. She looks familiar, kind of horse facious. She's won it three times w n B A all right, next, follow the rule. Matthew Stafford his first year at the Rams. Oh Stafford is a good one. Good almost five thousand yards. Wow. I did Freddy Freeman last year at the World Series. Another good one is Baseman for the Dodgers. Oh yeah, yeah, when he came to the Dodgers this first year. Yeah, I did Nick Foles that with the Eagles when you won. The Super Bowl. Then I did Kaylyn Clark. But then why don't he the replacement? Wasn't he the replacement for. For Carson Wentz? Yes, for Carson was the replacement for Trent? Oh? Yeah, yeah, remember, Okay, whatever they can then, still a hell of a year, all right. My last one was Kaitlyn Clark her first w NBA season. Dude, it's so noticeable because I don't know if you've noticed, but she's been in and out of the lineup this year. She's come back tonight, which she's not back, nobody watches. But when she's back, did she win a Natty? No? She lost to L s U twice or she lost twice in the finals. Can I do an honorable mention? Sure? It's Trump said, Oh you'll know this one. Trent ben Joyce the picture for Tennessee that pitched like one five. Yeah, the blonde that entire season. What's he doing now? Do you know he plays for the Cardinal. Is he in the major leagues? Yes? It is? Yeah, he plays Yeah, Arizona or Angels. Sorry not Arizona. You literally picked three different teams. I can't believe at all. Sorry, he plays for the Angels. So before we move off of Mount Rushmore, I got a question on my list. Do you know? No, do you know what Bobby Bonia Day is? I don't know who that is, all right, Trent? Know, it's an awesome story. That Bobby Bonilla was a met and they gave him this ungodly contract, right amount of money, but they spaced it out over a twenty five year period. Oh yes, I know who you're talking about. And so every year he gets he gets. Every July first it gets a million. Right, Well, Trent, I watched a video the other night that blew my mind. There's more to that story that meets the eye. Okay, why did they give him that contract a defer payment? They It wasn't to defer payment. It was literally to take the money that they would have been given him upfront and to invest it so that they would be making money. And so they were gonna make money off of Bobby Bonia's car. Happy to pay my million? Do you know who they invested the money in? Bernie made off. And you're a kid. No? Wow? So not only yeah, they still paying, they lost everything that they invested. So the it blew my mind. When I was watching this, I was like, oh my god, so they screwed up so bad. They took the money that they would have been paying him upfront and invested it in somebody who stole from them, And yet they're still paying Bobby Bonilla today. That's wild. Sorry, I was looking up my Liberal tears, which you called it dumb things I read, but I thought we were calling it liberal tiers. Okay, anyway, moving on to dumb things. Oh, next week, Amma, to give you a head start seeking to your homework. But because we have Travis coming, we are going to do Alabama football players mount RuSHA. Mount rushmore gollead I'm missing, op whep uh. Dumb things I read this week? Yeah, literally, I read something that those cuts cost lives Texas flood, which we talked about a little earlier. Yeah, and that the big beautiful bill will cost thousands of lives due to Medicare and snap benefit costs. Yeah, thousands of lives. Yeah. I think they should just be lining up showing you the dead people. It's just it's unconscionable some of the stuff they say. Here, here's the one that I got. I can always go to this guy and look up on So that's what I was doing. You said, it is Tom Tiller is standing there and it says, what do I tell sick one hundred and sixty eight thousand people when President Trump breaks his promise by pushing them off of medicaid? Oh my god. Yeah, listen, I did see what promised did he make? The Supreme Court voted eight to one. Wow, we've finally got the two of the three. Yeah. And what's crazy is Jackson was the only one that voted against it. And it's it basically says that he can claw back the Doge money, which is a huge deal. Yeah, so the judge, this is what the judge said. Of course, they can't just rule. They have to say. I think it's you know, ridiculous that he's taking money away that could help live save lives. Yeah, but it's not for me to say he can't do it. It's not unconstitutional. So they can take the money back that's been wasted over these years. And here's what I understand. When a Supreme Court makes a decision that says, these judges can't just you know, willy nilly stopped. You know, why is it the next thing I read the next day, this judge stops them from you know, deporting people. I know, like, what changed that Kataji Brown, how dangerous she is and dumb she is. Yeah, I mean she's really getting a reputation now, worse and worse. But she just mentioned something the other day that her opinion is not required to be based in law. Her opinion is what her opinion of the country should be. And that's what people care about. Jesus, Like, how did you get where you got? Well? You know how well? And what we should put is all the Republicans that voted yea in her favor. I know, it's so ridiculous. Democrats don't vote for anything anymore. What was her vote? I wonder to get her approved? Oh uh, this aaron a mission. Dave Baxter told us that we forgot to mention Mama Genie and how it in my notes here, I forgot to mention it. The guy that's trying to make the grocery stores. Oh, he's also doing the same thing for housing now. So the government will take over buildings, condos, hotels, make room rentals and then make it all the same price. Yep. It's gonna get scary in the big cities. Yeah, you wonder what'll be bluffed of them? Yeah, all right, moving on. I just got three things to say. God bless our troops, God bless America. Stock God. Oh man, I just thought of this last night, Martin and I happened to catch half of Kevin James's What was the show King of Queen's. Yeah, it doesn't matter when if I watched it. I haven't watched it in years and years. But man, and that dude makes me actually laugh out loud. He had a doll baby in his hands. He was delivering packages to a new house and the guy kept making him come in the house. And he was a doll baby repair guy, that's what he did for a living. And he's looking at this doll baby and I can't remember what scared him, but I thought the head was going to fall off the doll baby. But he takes it and he chucks it across the entire room. And man, I'm telling you that guy, Man, that show just makes me laugh. Without author though, it would have never been quite as funny. Arthur is so funny. Man, He's the best. It's hard to believe that guy could be that good. It's on two different shows around the same time. He was on Seinfeld and King of Queen. He's great. He was great all right, so let's get into the dumbasses. This was just one year ago, cut fifteen, and we give. Thanks to our commander in chief, the President of the United States, the Extraordinary President of the United State, shop by in. It was July fourth, suburbs. Maybe that's why is doctor Pete at the fifth today? Good point. All right, man, you have got you will agree with four out of five of these. I'm quite sure. But this is speaking of Mount Rushmore. This is what I thought was great. This is Kamala's top five. So listen to this. Cut sixteenth. United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea, North Korea. And it is an alliance that is strong and enduring. We have any plans to visit the border at some point, you know, we are going to the border. We've been to the border. So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been to Europe. And today we. Got thirty two days. It's on the election. Okay, the teleprompter goes away. Remember this, the teleprompter stopped working, so she's trying to signal with them it needs to work. So thirty two days, she's trying to tell. Two days, okay, we got some business to do. We got some business to do, all right, thirty two days, and we know we will do it. Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong. And when we all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other merry Christmas, these children are not going to have a merry Christmas. How dare we speak merry Christmas? How dare we. Jesus, she almost became president. I know, Look, that's how so scary that our country is that stupid. I got another one her of another great holiday. Now, I'm telling you, man, how close were we? But you know, I saw somebody the other day talked about they tried to get the view to rework it, to get her back on because of the mistake that she made. And I'm sitting there that's not the one mistake that was her whole career. That's why we could pick up easy. We've been to the border. Okay, so I think this is going to change your mind on immigration. I apologize for a little bit of cussing, but it's TikTok cut twenty. Come on my. Page and say that people should be in this country. Don't fucking do it. This is ridiculous, it's inhumane. You are a human being. And don't you dare use Jesus's name or God's name in this and say that this is what he would want and pretend to be a Christian because you're not. This is pure evil. You are scum of the earth. These are people, These. Are mothers, these are fathers, These are human beings, and all you care about was where they are geographically. Shame on you do better, be better. Don't first. I changed my mind. Now listen, I don't I don't understand why logical people can't have the conversation of yeah. Listen and say that people should. How angry she is looks like Emma when we talk about the Mount Rushmore and you left off left off a woman. Let me ask you a question. You're a conservative, right, yes or no? Golf? I love that girl. Are you sitting there telling me that you don't want any immigrants anymore in our country. Of course I do. Okay, you just want them to be here legally. And participate in the country the way it should be. Correct. If you're coming here to work hard, Yeah, nobody's running you out like That's the thing that they just they always keep leaving out is dude. I had an employee that was one of my subordinates, if you will, that I was just department head and he was one of the guys. But he was a DACA guy, so he had to go and verify who he was, and he did it the right way. He's not a citizen yet, and he's lived here since he was in high school, right, got his degree, Yes, works as an engineer, and just hopes that he can become a citizen one day, which is beautiful. Yes, it's beautiful. Yeah, but we can have the conversation of how do we make the process better so that they're not spending thirty years before they finally become a citizen. Yeah, we can fix that process, but that takes two parties sitting down and actually legislating something. Yeah, and that's the part we can We can never happen. Dude, I think I saw what was it? Was it a five million dollar It was you can become a citizens if you're willing to pay five million dollars. Remember that's what Trump said. Oh yes, the seventy thousand people. Seventy thousand people have registered to be able to do that, correct, Dude, This dude's making money, hand over fists for us. Unbelievable. Here is the. Problem with the dims. You mentioned this earlier about the Democrats and where they're going and the socialism and all that. This is what's wrong with them, and this is why they can't be fixed. I don't know how they're going to fix themselves without leadership. Listen cut twenty six. Erica, my friend, Happy fourth of July, and today on our Independence Day. I'm looking into whether or not Americans feel proud to be an American. And as it turns out, Democrats, their percentage who say they're proud to be an American has fallen through the floor. What are we talking about. Take a look here, Democrats probably to be an American extremely or very proud. In twenty fifteen. Look at this four to five Democrats where extremely are very proud to be an American. That number has plummeted, plummeted to just thirty six percent now in twenty twenty five at oh this century has fallen by more than half since twenty fifteen, as Donald Trump has become of course president once again this year. Now, what is driving that decline? While a lot of it has to do with age, what are we talking about? Well, generation Z Democrats proud to be an American or not? Of course, generation Z born since nineteen hundred and ninety seven. Look at this, Only twenty four percent, twenty four percent of Generation Z Democrats are extremely or very proud to be an American. That is actually lower Aerica. That is lower than the percentage who say they have little or no pride to be an American at thirty two percent. I just never thought I'd see these numbers based upon where we were a decade ago, But that's exactly where we are now. If Democrats have extremely less pride to be an American, then they used to What about Republicans? Well, this is where the trend line gets interesting because Republicans there is no trend line. In fact, take a look here, Republicans pride to be an American extremely are very proud. In twenty fifteen, it was ninety percent back when Barack Obama was serving a second term. Now in Donald Trump's second term, it's basically the same percentage, ninety two percent. So Republicans still are extremely are very proud to be an American. Democrats, on the other hand, have seen their numbers fall through the floor, led of course, by the youngest generation Generation Z. We'll see how these numbers turn going forward. But the bottom line is whether or not the folks out there extremely are very proud to be an American. I'm extremely, very proud to be with you, Erika Hill, Happy July fourth. That's the problem, dude, That is the problem with them right there. So when you first read it, your mind is thinking, Okay, the poll is swayed because Trump is the president and people would not answer to be proud to be American. I'm glad he followed it up with Republicans in twenty fifteen, Barack is at his end. Yeah, right, And we didn't know that. We've thought Hillary was going to win, That's right. I mean literally everybody thought Hillary was going to be Trump and it was it ninety percent. Man, We don't I mean the president gets elected and it's another guy. We still think that's part of the process. They want to cheat or don't believe in the process, don't believe in the foundations of our country, aren't taught the foundations of our country, but. Are out there screaming every day that we're a threat to democracy. Yeah, yeah, it's so sad. Yeah, that just proves it right there. Oh, here's our lady. Here's our commander in chief. She almost won. This is her talking about July fourth. On July fourth, this, I know was last week, but let's listen to her talk about that holiday cut. Thirty States has recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed on the shores of the Americas. But that is not the whole story. That has never been the whole story. Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations, perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not shine away from this shameful past, and we must shed light on it and do everything. We Obviously that was a Columbus, but still it's that whole genre thinking our country is based on stealing, and that was their leader. You know, well, you got time for a winning MAGA minute from someone we really like. Uh yes, and then we'll get to our NASCAR picks. Okay, all right, cut forty seven. It was one of the hottest weeks in our nation's history, and I'm not talking temperature. Let's break it all down in this week's Maga Minute. The jobs numbers for the month of June are in and the United States added one hundred and forty seven thousand jobs, exceeding market expectations. For the fourth month in a row, our unemployment rate fell to four point one percent, again defying expectations. The price of eggs has rapidly declined under President Trump, inspiring waffle House to announce that it has removed its egg surcharge from the menu. In a huge win for women who play sports, the Department of Education secured an agreement with the University of Pennsylvania to remove men from women's sports, and it corrects the record in favor of sanity. President Trump continues to deliver trade deals. He announced a trade deal with Vietnam, which will give the US total access to their markets for the first time ever. The President also visited Alligator Alcatraz in Florida, reaffirming our commitment to law and order in our country. And he visited the great state of Iowa to kick off a series of celebrations across the country to celebrate next year's two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the United States. And finally, Congress worked hard to deliver the one big, Beautiful Bill to President Trump's desk. This bill means no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, and a big beautiful tax cut for everyone. It's on the way. And for those of you celebrating our nation's birthday, the cost of a Fourth of July cookout for ten people skyrocketed by more than twenty percent under Joe Biden, but that cost has dropped under President Trump. This fourth of July, we are celebrating not only the birth of our great nation, but the birth of a golden age of economic prosperity for you and your family. And the best is yet to come. We'll see you for next week's Maga minute. Happy Independence Day. Dude. How smart are they? What platform is that on? It's TikTok, Yeah. You know, I mean, just they get the news out. To do They're very smart. And really, by the way, truthful. Yeah, like remember we used to get we're using everything in our toolbox. Yeah, to bring prices down. Yeah. Meanwhile they actually show you. Hey, egg prices were eight oh three now they're two twenty or what ever was Yeah, well that's massive. Yeah, they could never understand the supply side. They sort of did when they needed to come back down right before elections. They took it from our patroleum reserves. Remember, Yes, I am curious to see because the markets really are still waiting on the interest rates to drop. Which yeah, Jerome Pal's just being Jerome Poal. It's just wild, I know. So we'll see, all right, So moving on to air NASCAR picks. Okay, it is the Toyota save marked three point fifty. Okay, that's the that's the lowest odds I've ever seen in a race. Yeah, I won fifteen friggin dollars by choosing ven Ginsbergen. Right, but you bet five Yeah, you did the same thing I did, but you bet on three drivers, right. Yeah, But I don't understand, like in their life time, I don't know that I've ever seen odds that much in his favor or any any driver's face. It's even worse now, I know, and this week is even worse. Well, I'm not picking him, I. Know, because you feel bad, But honestly, you're just throwing away from me. I'm throwing away thirty bucks knowing that he could win anyway. I'm gonna take Michael McDowell. Man. I cannot believe he was doing so good last. Week and he just yeah, pitt strategy. No, it was his throttle. Oh, what's right? He couldn't stop the car from gold, which Cody ware. I'd wondered if that happened to him too. It's interesting. Okay, so let's go theres Sorry. Chris Buscher, and who is gonna be my dark horse here? You know, God, Alex Bowman has gotten so much better on road courses. He really has. Uh, you know what, I'm gonna go, Zane Smith. Holy cow, if that dude was to pull this off, that is twelve hundred and fifty dollars. Oh, and I'll be in Vegas when this happens. I will take my winnings and spend it all in Vegas. By the way, I'm really excited. Move this chair over to her guest. I'm kind of I'm really excited by the way that last week Catherine Leggy raced and. I stop, I can't say, Katherine Leggy. What is she? It's Catherine leg You can't put the eel spelled l. You can't, man, that's hilarious. Catherine Leggy, all right. Catherine hot legs. Mimi. She raced in that race, and she finished twentieth on that road course. And what's cool is uh, the people that I asked did not know she was even in the race, You know what I mean? In that advancement, I agree one hundred per What's even better is she actually knocked a driver out like she had to qualify. She just wasn't put in. Okay, So Corey Heim did not make the race. She did, huh, which is impressive. Yeah. I'm trying to find who my long shot would be that might just make it. Did you pick Katherine Legg? No? Oh, come on, I don't think she's coming far enough for me to know what her name is. So you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go Christopher Bell Belly, I'm gonna go Almen Dinger. What this is not? Can I give you a little advice? Yeah? I watched Junior and they talked about Almondinger. This is his worst road course at all of them. He doesn't finish well. And I'm taking them. Thought, if you listen those shows, Brian, I. Know he's apparently a rhythm driver and this is not a rhythm course. Yeah, and now I'm going to go, dude, how is his odds so low? I'm going Brad Kazlowski. Yeah, yeah, those cars have gotten so much better for RFK, Inspire Motorsports is bringing a fast. Car every week. You know he's not Spire No no. I said, RFK has gotten better. Yeah, and Spire Motorsports brings a fast car every week. It's pretty impressive. All right, So let me make my bets because I get mad when I forget who I picked. Okay, so I know how you I know how you are because I mean, I know what you're thinking. If ten dollars is only going to get me fourteen dollars, then I'm not betting on it, you know what I mean? Even though he's that good of a uh, I mean, that's I will still enjoy if he wins. Yeah, but let's you know, we've had other road courses this year that he has not won. So let's not. It's not an automatic. Well, imagine win the poll, win all of it. I see Keselowski. He gets ten dollars gets me. Wait a minute, where do you go? Maybe I must read that? Oh my god, No, I didn't. Ten dollars gives me a thousand for crazy Keselowski. Wow, although am I dude? Have you ever done this? And you're betting on the season you FanDuel and the Toyota. Make sure it says Toyota save mark, save mark three fifty Toyota. Yeah, I got it, So I got it right? All right, that's cool? Uh? Into show today? Are you ready for that? Or you got other stuff? No? I think I'm good. I'm I always like asking Emma what she thought of the interviews when we have these guys. Yeah, what'd you think of? What do you think of mister meechum? Yeah, fascinating story. So we will not have American stories next week? Yeah, we won't have American stories. We won't have you. Those are reserved for me. Yeah. Who is there next in a couple of weeks? Do you have that off the top of your head? I want to say, I want to say it was a wit Gary Witt. I want to. I think that's who it was. I've got before you say that or before you mentioned that. Yeah. Uh, there's a local kid that went to Liberty High School. His name is Bryce Whitlow. He started a TikTok page and it's called the Wall of It's I forget what it's called now that gone it, But he basically does the people who aren't in the Hall of Fame but you know, are not quite but didn't make long term careers and whatever. Well, I mean he started just to YouTube page, right, and that's what he does. And so they have these inductions or whatever or where they inducted these people in the not so Hall of Fame. I think it might be what it's called. Yeah, anyway, there was an Oriole the other day that was got inducted. Is it day? You're an Orioles fan? He was a big time remember. Anyway, I just thought it was neat that he was on a nationwide show where they were highlighting him and then they piped that guy in as a surprise and he had no idea. I mean, he's a local kid here just doing in. His page is growing like crazy, and it's anyway, it's neat because I got to see him. He played on Logan's baseball team, and he's just got an organic page that he started in Major League Baseball. Players are now tagging you know that they made it in this kid's Hall of Fame or not whatever, like it means something to them, which I just think is neat. They do that thing now where lifetime Hall of famers like the ones that didn't make the original vote, Yeah they can. They can still make the Hall of Fame. So Gary Witt is who we're going to have on in two weeks if schedules work out, and he is a two time Purple Heart recipient from Vietnam, two times, two time. All right, nice. So to end the show today, it's a quick clip so you'll be happy, Emma. This is Charlie Kirk now talking about life, liberty, happiness. M hmm. It's pretty cool. It takes a little bit to get there, but you'll hear it. It's really cool. Anyway, have a good week anyway, yep, have a good week, Emma. I'll bring you some sand back. Is this sandy in Vegas? Have you been to Vegas? Never? I don't want sand What. Do you want? Show girl? A thong. And Genesis twenty six one twenty seven, which is universal human equality, that I'm not better than Luke, and Luke is not better than me, that we are all the same in God's economy. From that, then you get natural rights and you get what birth. Western civilization understand that if you visit a lot of the rest of the world, go and visit India right now, Go and visit the tribes of Africa. They have cast systems and intergenerational ruling structures where not all people are created equal. They believe that there's some sort of hierarchy to existence. Well, I have more money than you, than I'm better than you. Only in America do we pause it in our birth certificate? Nope, Yep, you might have more money, but that does mean you have more rights. Yep, you might. You might have a nicer car, but I have this, I'm same in God's economy, and both of us are going to have to go in front of God the judge one day and both of us are equally made. Do you understand the significance of that? And it was at no small cost. So then the king is reading this, he is getting angry and angrier, and this is where it gets so profound that among these life, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You cannot have liberty, and you cannot. Happiness, have happiness if you do. Not protect life. Let us be a state in a country again that values life at every possible stage, from the unborn to the born to the elderly.