This is Life Liberty Happiness with Brian Schly and Trent Warner, streaming live each week on Media Squatch Plus and available on demand in the app or wherever you get your podcasts. Real Talk, Real Freedom. All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of Life Liberty Happiness. I'm your host, Brian Schly. We are live in the David Hollmaker State Farm Studios in the studio with Trent Warner, and I sound a professional howdy polishing. Yeah, week in Vegas. Come back all ready to get professional Emma pushing buttons. Hello. And a little later on in the show, we will have our American hero story. We will welcome a veteran Gary Witt later on. I can't wait for that. About ten minutes away. Yep from that. Can't wait to get to that. But first we'll do backwards and four. Last week weekend, I had my daughter's fourteenth birthday. Fun. She had like ten fun. Yeah, it wasn't bad, it was eventful. Do you like having that many kids around your house that you don't know? Yeah? I know most of them from volleyball. You know how it is with Riley. I mean you pretty much know the volleyball friends, right. One of the best memis I saw was the one that says, the look on your dad's face when he gets the girl's name right, you know, I mean, they're all they're all, They're all Emily's and yeah, you know what I mean. That's like, oh Sarah. Yeah. That was two of them that had the same name, Rachel Pearl and Rachel something and yeah, I said Rachel and both of them around and I was actually trying to say Reagan gone. Yeah. So anyway, No that the low Country ball turn out, it was good. Yeah. We ordered four pounds of crawfish from Louisiana and it was scheduled to be there Friday, and I got a note from UPS on my notifications that it was going to be delayed till Monday. Nice Louisiana Company is the name of the company that chips fresh crawfish. I didn't even have to call. They sent me an email saying that happens. Sometimes they won't go to make your party, but don't be surprised that if it doesn't show up like this. Sometimes it's automated that if it's delayed, but they know it has to be delivered on this date or else, they don't get paid. Then shortly after that I got an email saying it was not going to show up, and they refunded all my money. And then they said if it comes Monday to throw it away, that it's it's got to be. They got to be live when they get there, which you just use shrimp. It never showed up so even today, so yeah, it's still I guess they ship it back. Yeah, uh so shrimp instead, Yeah, we did. We added shrimp to it. Yeah, all right, Yeah, we didn't go with Reagan's option. She's like, I just swap it out with lobster tails. I'm like, wow, get some tea, some grill, some ta bones too. All my friends. It's my fourteenth birthday day, fourteenth birthday. I'm gonna got ten friends over and we're gonna do lobster tails. Yes, sure, yeah, but no, it turned out good. We had a good time, and then on Sunday we had a family reunion. Yeah, it's the louder Milks. It's not a very common last name, but it's up near Natural Bridge, beautiful little stretch of creek. Yeah, but why would you be going You're a Slyie. She's a Richard's it's her mom's family. Dorcas. She's a dorcas laughter, molk. Nope, she's a fix. But somehow I don't do want to ask. I think that may be her. Y'all just showed up to some family reunion. No, it's listen, I enjoy it. So it's it's a I think it's called Bent Creek, but it's it's the size of a you know, when I think of a creek, I think of three feet wide. This was bigger than the Jackson Oh okay. So every year we go to this. They all take chairs and go sit in the river like that's a thing. And they just sit around and uh, that's their family, and then they eat. But be honest with you, it's fun like town, is it in? It's right there in Natural Bridge, like Oceanside or closer to Lexington. Oh okay, so literally off of Route eleven, like when you pass the Fancy Hill, when you pass the speedway, it's probably half a mile past Lane's Country Store on the left. Yep. And so we had a good time and fall fall. You know, he's gonna bring kayaks and so the kids took the kayak except the river and back and yeah, it sounds like fun. Yeah, there's always Kenny's Chicken. They get that from Lexington. Oh yeah, I went on that truck with you once. Yeah. Kenny's Chicken is hard to beat. Yeah. But anyway, that was her weekend. Cool. What'd you do for us? I just hung this weekend, you know, pool pool day with friends, did some grilling, had a lot of fun with the friends. Don't remember the grilling. Oh wait a minute. Grilling was the next day. So and then Riley, you know, she's going off to Uva, so we wanted to just hang together. So it was really cool that your daughter wants to hang with you for day. So we went to the pool and just hung it. Man. We probably talked for four hours, just none stop. It was good catch up time. So she's getting ready to go and tell me all about it. So won't be long. Another month goes by and she'll be gone. Yeah, speaking of that, Happy twenty fourth to Perry. Yep, yep. It's his birthday today. So that was this day in history, twenty four years ago. Oh okay, he was born. My man, how's Nashville. How's he doing in Nashville? Yeah? Shoot, if he's there. Every time I'm talking to him, he's traveling with Sarah somewhere. So they're young. They just hit the road. They're near airports, so they're ready to go here and there, and so they're just enjoying life. Good for it's fun keeping up. But I will see him this weekend. That's my weekend forward? Oh good, So you're going we're gonna go celebrate his birthday down at his all right, my oldest daughter's house down Charlotte. So we're gonna go see Audrey and Josh, and he's bringing Sarah and then Riley and I are going to ride down and. Catch up with them. So speak spend the weekend together celebrate his birthday at his sister's house. You had anything planned? Are you just gonna cook out at her place? Nothing planning? So we'll just figure out what to do. Where are you staying at at Audrey's? Oh? Okay, nice, pretty sure. I should check on that one. But she got a the house. We'll figure it out. If it's a couch, it's still good with us. All right. How about y'all? What a y'all doing this weekend? I was just corrected. It is the Fix family Union, my wife. It's the Fixes. Yeah, okay, sorry, sorry, Dorcas. Yeah, thanks to the fixes for sponsoring that. I listen, I am the older I get I'm I was glad. You get louder Milk in there. Because that's the people who host it are louder Milks. And so I just assumed we were going to have there's so many dag on family reunions with that family. Oh yeah, okay, so too many branches. I gotcha, But I like family re unions. Like when I was young, I hated them. Hey, do you know why I just heard this? Do you know why the lady dropped her name, hurt surname, or took the husband's name legally? Why it was done that way? Because legally, when it was first created, when she took his name, she gave up the right, not gave up the right, but she no longer had to take on debt. He was now the provider, and so she took his name, and she didn't have to take on debt. He took on debt whatever they bought, So it was like a giving. Of the name. She'd be able to do that. It's kind of interesting whether that's true or not, I don't know, but I heard of that. Well, I mean I guess previous society is the last name was the most important. I mean that that was your standing in society, right, yeah, yeah, so that was probably important. And the argument I heard about that was ladies trying to say that they're not taking on their husband's name out of I mean, they're really only doing that for one generation because they usually have the last name of their dad. Sure you know, yeah, right, all right. I might slip down the Caesars this weekend. I don't know. I've gotten really nothing planned. I'm trying. I want to do that with you, though. I've been efforting Caesar's to sponsor or segment. Noah, but I can't. The lady has not got back with me. Don't we have staff that does that. Emma, you would think, what did I do wrong? Now? Well not, you haven't done anything wrong. You just haven't done enough rights. Thanks. I appreciate that. I'm in communications with the Caesar's marketing director. I'm hoping we can get some sort of sponsorship out of Caesar's. Thank you. What is Caesar's? Oh my gosh, just well, we've got no chance now. Yeah. It's a dressing that you put on a salad. It's a salad. It's a Roman leader in Danville. Oh, I just don't know that was the name of it. Yeah, yeah, Caesar's Palace, I just. Yeah, I just don't know that was the name of it. Did Caesar really stay here? All right? Uh? Moving on this day in history. This day in history. Nineteen forty five, after delivering the atomic bomb. I did not know this, did. You know that? I did not know until you wrote this, and I had not. In nineteen forty five, after delivering the atomic bomb in the Pacific, the cruiser USS Indianapolis was torpedoed and sank by the Japanese. Yeah, killing eight hundred and eighty of the crew, many who were attacked by sharks. It inspired the movie Jaws. Yeah. I never knew that. That's really crazy because when you wrote that, I was like, sounded familiar. So I wanted to go look at that too. So it took the it was carrying the main components to finish the bomb before it was delivered into Japan, which that was, And I looked it up because I just wanted to say, man, you think these dates would be emblazoned in my memory and it's not. But today, you know, be in July thirtieth is when this, you know, when the Indianapolis was sunk. Right, that's on its way out after delivering the components to the bomb. The bomb was dropped August sixth, So if it gets sunk. On the way in, oh yeah, there is none. Till why then it's there's no bomb too. Yeah. We're paying high tariffs to Japan these days. Yeah, instead they are, yeah, exactly speaking Japanese. Yeah, that's just that's just a wild history thing. Wow. And mine real quick was in God we Trust became our national motto. Okay, so on your coin, yes, if that's in God we Trust became our national motto. What year would you think that would have been done? That had to been Eisenhower? And I'm gonna say forty eight is nineteen fifty six. I would have just thought it was something that as soon as we branded coins that we would have had in God we Trust back in like eighteen eighty or seventeen ninety or something like that. Was it? You know, it was nineteen fifty six. So I don't know. You're asking me trivia, So I'll look it up all right. Onto American hero stories. The American Dream is built on freedom and that freedom comes at a cost. American Heroes Stories presented by Life Liberty Happiness is a new series honoring the men and women who've sacrificed to protect that dream. We're proud to play a small part in preserving their stories for future generations. Life Liberty Happiness, a media squatch podcast, presents American heroes stories. All right, folks, welcome to the program. US Marine and Vietnam veteran Gary witt Well. Folks, thank you for taking time out to join us. We'll start off with where was Where were you born and raised? I was born right here in Lynchburg at the uh Well goog and Hammer House, Virginia Baptists, I guess back in that day, but yeah, it's Lynchburg has been my home my whole life and still is. And I grew up here, went to before high school. So did you play sports in high school? I did play some innermural sports, basketball and stuff like that, and ran track. But but yeah, I had, you know, general life. I mean, I was real skinny. I've probably be the weigh one hundred and thirty pounds. Wow. But but when I got out ended up ended up going into the marine Corps when I started putting on weight and muscle. You know, were you was there a motivation to join the armed forces or was this you know, the only option? Well, I h I was you know, in high school I had a girlfriend and ended up getting her pregnant and and ended up deciding to get married on my eighteenth birthday. Nice and. We had a son that was born and UH, now they're right out of right out of high school, he's I'm so young, I don't really know what you know, what I'm doing. I was playing in a band playing music and we had uh In fact, we had a pretty big band in Lynchburgh called the Epics, the Two Black Singers, and back in the day in the sixties, it was, you know, there was something that wasn't too much hurt around town. But we used to play that Sportsman Club on Fifth Street. So it was interesting and a lot of a lot of wild things that went on in my life. And uh, I thought I knew what I was doing, but h after being out playing music and uh I ended up we broke up and ended up. It's kind of like, because I had a son, it it kind of put pressure on me to uh to get involved in the military because back then, if you were married, you didn't have to you didn't have to worry about getting drafted. But because I had broke up with my wife, and next thing, you know, I started worried about getting drafted, and sure enough I got a draft notice. And so I just h David Harker, who was one of my schoolmates. He had been joined the army and was captured. And in another schoolmate that I used to drive to work to school, and Russell Blatz is one of my uh one of the school mates. He he went over there and joined the army, and next thing you know, he get killed. And uh so it was kind of like I was I was looking for I thought I was gonna go over there and look for David Harker like I was, you know, gonna be uh be a hero myself finding him. But no, I just I volunteered basically to what I actually when I when I went to get to boot camp or went up to went up to rot to get my uh physical Yeah, that's when he walked to Marine recruiter and he said, I need to two uh two of you guys to volunteer for Marines. Well, one of the guys who was also in the band with me, the black guy. Uh. He and I looked at each other and said, well we can go with a buddy plan. You know, it's gonna sound like an easy way out. So we both raised our hand and uh, and we got uh. Had to go for another physical. Well, when I went went in for the second physical, I passed, but he didn't. He flucked this he had flat feet or something like that, and so he didn't make the physical. So ended up I had to go to Paris Island by myself. Did he end up serving anywhere or was he kicked out? You know, he got out completely after found out he had flat feet. So anyway, I went on into Paris Island and I decided then that I was gonna volunteer for whatever. You know, I figured I was. Gonna get killed, and so many people get getting killed back then, so I uh, I just all the training I went through, I tried to do the best I could, especially rifle. I was a top shooter in my in my patoon for the rifle, I had uh, I mean almost a perfect score. But the UH, I wanted to get you, I really wanted to get into like be a riflement of some where I go out rather than just a carre a rifle around. I wanted to go out and be a sniper. I was gonna be something special. But I tried to get into jump school and they said, well, you've got to be able to fly, and because you've got so many cavities in your teeth, you'd probably get a headache or I'm fine, So they didn't want me to go to jump school. So anyway, I still volunteered for everything I can think of. When I got over there, believe it or not, I carried a guitar with me to Vietnam. I mean, how many people you see show up with a sea bagg and a guitar. You know they let you get on the plane with a guitar. Well, yeah, I actually had heads of guitar and I didn't really think about it. But the when I got in line out of in the Nang airport, that's where I was at. I came in there and I got in line to be checked in, and I had the guitar there on my seat bag, and this guy come up and he said, you play that guitar? And I said, well, yeah, a little bit. He said, well, what kind of music player? I said, well, just you know, hoot and any I played in the band. So I played a little bit of every kind of music. And so he said, well, how about you coming up to that. He showed me a little house up on the hill there and he said, can you come up in that house tonight? And he said, we play some music for us. I said okay, So he went up and told the guy I was checking us in. He said, just you know, for me to fall out, And so I did and wait until that night about eight o'clock and showed up over there and playing hooting Annie music and stuff, singing stuff with some of the people that was in the area. And it was the Officer's club. They were buying me beer and all this stuff. Yeah, treat me nice. And then but I don't know. At twelve o'clock, one o'clock in the morning, I got to cleaning up the bartenders over I wiping the borrow, and he said, well, got to get out of here. And I said, well where am I going? And he said, I don't know where you're going, but you's staying here. So here. I was in Vietnam on my first night, and I had no clue where it wasn't checked into anything. So I went back down to the airport, which was nothing but a little room as big as this, and it had a bench there, and so I laid them a seabag on top of the bench, and I and get to on top of that and I crawled up under the bench. And that's where I've spent my first night in Vietnam, no kidding, Holy cow. And got up the next morning and I got back in that same line as in the day before, and he checked me in and I ended up going to the golf company Second Tay fourth Marines, which were called the Magnificent Bastards. That's where it was a group of. Hell's Angels that had joined the Marines and they went in as a group, and this was a company that they served in Wow. So when I got to the company, they said, well, what do you want to do? You want to what job you I said, well, I'd like to be on recon or something. He said, well, we got some reconn we're gonna be going up and he's in North phandam Many in what they called I Corps. And so they they asked me if if I want to be point man I said, well that, yeah, I can do that. So I like walking the point because I never walked on the trail. Normally everybody walks on a trail, I end up with a booby trail or something. So I just. I would cut a trail trail from once one spot to the other. Tell me where you want me to go, and I'd pick out that that bountain or whatever hell we're going to and I would cut a new trail over there. And now you're you're from Lynchburg. Yeah, you go to Paris Island, and now you find yourself. I mean, what's the terrain like for you? I mean is this I mean this is jungle work. I mean you're in the middle of I mean, how hot is it? Just what? Oh, it's kind of completely different. Yeah, it's it's all hot weather and uh some sometimes it would get monsoon season when it would be so much rain and everything's wet and just going going through these rivers and stuff. Yeah, it's it's a different environment altogether. And I'm well, let me tell you a little story about uh why why I think that I was pretty good with a rifle Because when I was in high school, we had a I was in the f f A Future Farmers of America, and they had a contest to see who could sell the most magazines. Now this is high school, and I saw I was one of the ones that sold the most magazines. And I ended up getting My prize was a rifle, and they brought it to me in high school and presented it to me. Right yeah, And I used to take that rifle and go out and there's a twenty two magnum lever actions set out in the field there, and and I could I could have dove. You know, people dove hunt. They take a shotgun. I take my rifle and I shoot. The heads of the. Doves on on the wired. But anyway, that was how I was. I got pretty good at what I was doing. But you know, he got over there and I I wasn't fred of anything. Like I said, I made it through boot camp. And uh, there was some dudes in boot camp. They liked to whip up on people and and I stood my ground because the pogo sticks I had that was the born when what was going through that part of boot camp. I I beat off my the person I was against, and then I beat a second part. They put two people on me and I was beat both of them. So then the drug instructor come around and he uh said, Okay, I'm gonna put another So he put three people that he said, I want you to fight these three. So he took my helmet and turned it around sideways. I couldn't even see what I was doing. I was just fighting these three guys and they finally beat me. But uh, but yeah, I was. I was trying to be real tough. I was a real tough guy. But uh uh, you know, I was scared to death when I got over there. I took my guitar and all that, but I left the guitar in the rear area, and uh and the supply in the rear and I went one out there in the bush. And but it was they'd send me out on things like LPs, where you go out at nighttime and and going about a couple of hundred yards from the rest of the company and listen for people who might be moving through the jungle. And it'd be about four or five. I was do that LP watch, and I did that quite a bit. And then they sent us up on a reconmission up into North Vietnam to check out the where the trails were people were coming down from the north and right there on I cole which right off of the Ben High River. And I didn't we wasn't but ten miles I guess from the Ben High River. And so they sent us in up there one time and we we went actually went into North Vietnam. We came back over the river and we thought the mission was over for that day. We kind of laid back and just taking it easy. And there was a sandbar there on the side of the river. So I'm sitting there and everybody's kind of unzipping the flak jackets and laid back and everything's cool, and uh, but we got radio silence and the uh this Marine Bronco was flying around over top of us. And you know, in North Vietnam, you think, well you protect it because you hear this this plain that's got to be America plane. So uh. Anyway, we got kind of easy, easy out town in the sandbar, and this Marine Bronco just came down and he came down so low that we just we were saying giving his thumbs up, you know, and he he saw us and gave us thumbs up back. And well, right there beside us was a bunch of gooks that were getting ready to to hit us, and they thought, well, we could shoot this plane down. Oh wow, So they go cat cat cat in the bottom of the plane. And he thought that we were part of the group was shooting at him. So what does he do? He flows flies around, he comes back in and this time I'm looking back, I'm shooting at the gooks down. They're they were shooting at us and pin us down. And I'm looking back over my shoulder and I saw this. This bronco released these rocks and these rockets on the fingers coming through the air right right off the top of us, and I said, oh crap, put in the world. And he had white phosphorus, those white, white, white phosphorus rockets, and and uh, actually they landed right on top of us, right up position. And one of the rockets hit right beside me and strapped and went in my left right leg. And then the white fosters went up in the air and landed on my left leg. And also was people were laying right beside me that the white foster was landed. One guy had it on his head. Of course, Now I was right there on the sandbar, so I took the sand and knocked his knocked the fire out. But the guy that had landed on his head, he jumped in the river and water didn't put it out. Oh. So he was struggling trying to get to get that out. And we got to grab him, pulled him back up on the sandbar, and she shoved his head in the sand and finally got it all put out. And this is while you're also being shot at still. Oh yeah, we were pinned down from that. And then not only that, he went around again, and this time he came in many guns. He's got these these these many guns, just dug a burt just a rapid fire, mini guns. Just they came in. He was I had I saw bullets actually tear my pants. Oh good. Anyway, now there was four men, the top four UH officials in the in the group. There was that there. They they got wounded. One of them had a rocket land right between his legs and he had just got a letter in the mail that he had he had had a baby back home. And so we had to we had to call a shop that the one of the the radio man actually had his hand blown off. And so this friend of mine named Billy Steiner. He picked the radio up and got the cussing and he and he got the channel that this uh, this this marine Bronco was on and he got got on and he cussed so so well that he convinced the gather he was an American you know marine, and so he he actually called in the chopper for us. And and anyway, the chopper was that came in was uh, it had three wheels instead. It wasn't a big chopper. It was just just big enough to get the the four guys on. So they brought brought chopper and set it down on a on the river edge the river bank, and we we put those four guys that were wounded, and I just talked. Believe it or not, I just talked to one of those four guys. I talked to him last Saturday night. He's still alive. And he was telling me. The reason I'm telling you this because the same I was telling this guy that I'm in the military, purple heart, I'm in in the uh that organization with this guy and this guy that's in this region was in my company, had golf to four in his shirt. And I met him and we got the talking and and he told me. He said, well, I I had another fellow tell me the same story, and come to find out he was one of the guys that was with us and in Vietnam. And so he went home and told him, gave him my card, and he called me last Saturday night. Wow, and we talked about it, and then he he was thanking me for saving him, puttinghim on the chopper, getting him. Out of there. Unbelievable these years later. Yeah, I couldn't believe it's still alive. So that was on January thirtieth. And then, uh so I was. I was in good shape. So they they sewed me up. I put by seven stitches in my right leg and gave me a whole backpack full of bandages from a left leg where the white fosters should burn a hole. And so they sent me right on back after the bush. Oh my goodness, because they needed the people in the bush. So I'm out there and things progressed, you know, it's more and more things were going through each each week. And how about how long had you been there when that occurrence that the river happens? Uh? It was, well, it was after because I want to I remember Christmas that even that year sixty sixty eight, I remember going on search and kill patrol and we found these little laflets that they'd thrown out, thrown at all over the jungle. That was you know that day. That was a very disheartening day because it was Christmas and Christmas Day and we go out on this patrol and we're picking up his little leaf and said, yankee go home, and this that and the other I got. I got one of them by Bible. Now that I kind of keep as uh rememberance of what all happened. But but you know, the. Uh it was, it was right. I've been there probably in about August and September. I got there in Vietnam, so this was after Christmas, and this January thirtieth, this was after we went on then control. So here I am, and this is one of these when it's socked in weather comes in. You know, we were just uh you couldn't get resupplied because it's so much cloudy weather. You couldn't get anything into you know, fly in or drip. So we had set in on this hill and uh, well, I guess it. I had also been on a another mission they sent us into, uh to this hill. They call it Fox Ridge Hill. And what happened was Fox Company was on top of this hill and they they sent golf company, my company and hotel company to go in Reneve renieve them and get the bodies off the hill because they got wiped out. So we go in late one evening and and Uh, I go out there and cup of bodies and I had to go up on this trail and uh come back with bodies and and we we put several bodies and body bags and. Just you know, waiting for them. To to get everything organized so that we could probably take the hill. You know. So anyway, the that night they got us to back away from the hill and they came in and strafed the hill with everything, and the big, big bombers come in and they would drop just napalm and everything you could think of it on the hill, and it was it was pretty devastating. I mean, if you'd think, you know, you could stand back and you could feel the heat. Wow, it was so close. But anyway, the next morning they were gonna send us out to go up and take the hill. So they called me into the headquarters, which is just to set up braver tent, and they Uh. They said, look, you, you and you and your fire team are gonna be the first ones going up to a hill tomorrow. Uh, and so we don't want you to go back and write a letter home. Oh wow. So you know, we kind of by then. I mean, I'm kind of getting, you know, used to seeing things happen and people getting killed, and I mean I pulled enough bodies off at hill to uh, putting body bags and all that. It just makes you still just just feel that you've been through something already's traumatic, you know. And so I figured, well, I'm I'm probably gonna be one of the next ones. Anyway, we. The I went back to told my fire team that they need to write a letter home, and they they were all I was writing a letter, and I was trying to write letters. And I started writing a letter and said, if you're reading this letter, than you probably I'll probably be in heaven. Then I got to thinking about that, I said, well, what have I done to go to heaven? Oh wow? I mean I didn't really deserve that, that's for sure. So I figured, well, I I had this little bible in my backpack, and so I got that out and got the reading and read about the plan of salvation and how to get saved, and I shared it with my guys and and so we Yeah, I made a commitment to the Lord that night, you know, the the you know, I wanted to live for him. So next morning, we're we're getting ready to go up this hill. And I was already also told that I had to walk on the trail, which is against my religion. Altogether, I didn't even think. I'm thinking, well, I've got to walk on this trail. They wanted my fire team to be on each side of me, like we were three three ranks going to this hill. So I'm thinking about that, and I'm laying there just waiting for everybody to get, you know, in the lined up and everything, and the uh, I said a little prayer. I said, Lord, do you get me up this hill and I'll live my life for you. So anyway, I didn't think a lot about it, but I went on got on the trail. I'm going up there. Sure enough, I hadn't gone a couple hundred yards, and there saw a head sticking out and a rifle sticking out of a bunker. And I passed the word back that I spotted the enemy and I wanted permission to fire. Well, the word came back up to me. He said, don't fire till they fire first. So what am I to do? I got to I can't fire, So the only thing I could do is pray. I mean I was. I said, well, this is probably. Gonna be it. So I'm praying. And I got up, stood up, and I'm watching this guy in the bunker and they're going up there, and he's he's not even he's not even manning his rifle or anything. He just he's kind of he's he's scarier than I am. He's frightened. And then when I all got up there to him, I pulled him out and I sent him on back down the line, and I kept on going, and we actually captured three three gooks that they off the hill and and I don't know where they all others came from, but I know that they took them and interrogate them. But I got to the top of the hill. I was one of the first people up there, and I dropped down in this bunker. It's kind of looking around to see if any thing is any anything, you know, that might blow up or something. But I sat down in the bunker, and I said, thank you Lord, you know, for getting me up this hill. And I heard the old voice say, well, I've done my part. And so. Anyway, it turns out that there's a hospital and all kinds of ammunition. You wouldn't believe this stuff. It was up on that hill. It was unbelievable. And they the people that they interrogated, they found out that they had left the fifty and squad behind to slow us down. They knew it was gonna come over on a hill. So we took the hill and h and we were up there for the next couple of weeks. But like I said, it was still was that time when everything was socked in. You couldn't get resupplied. So we went on and finally we left that hill and we went over to another hill and then I had to go through I mean, we're going through rivers and in the leeches and stuff, and the rivers was unbelievable. They was attached to you. And so is there because. I'm not familiar with Vietnam, but is there wildlife? Is there? Like? Oh? Yeah? They Actually when I was going through a river, I'm looking at fish that have never seen man before. I mean, that's how wild the areas are. And the fish would come up and like be looking at you like you know, hey this is this might be something good to eat, you know. But uh, but you know there was a wildlife we ran into, you hear. Uh, Sometimes a deer or something like that would be in the woods. In fact, I heard I didn't kill anybody. I heard some guys talk better. They killed a deer of snakes and things, I mean big bulk. Of stricters, you know. That's what I'm just saying. Right there, I. Did see one of those that one of the guys run up on and killed it. Then we actually had a little meat off that. But uh, but uh, anytime you got into a battle, it was like, uh, you had a great time because we would usually the gooks would carry a rice sock. So when we had sea rations, they had this beef gravy and stuff in there. We get that rice out and cook it up and it's like having a delicacy. You know. That was a good meal we had whenever he had a battle. But but anyway, we were shocked in in these places and everything kind of was going very slow. Is you didn't know what was going to happen next. But a lot of us were, like you said, it was scared. We was scared, and we finally had to resort to digging into fire pits where on these hills that the Marines had been before, somebody had been their army who have been on the hill. We got digging into the fire pits and finding these little little canisters of permena cheese. Nobody liked pamenta cheese, so they'd always throw them away. That's how we that's what we was living on, were eating these damena cheese. So when you when you're taking these hills or at least is this a day process? Is this a week process or half a day? It sometimes would be just a day or so, and then you stay there and you're going to it, they have another mission for you to go on. It was like they got, are you staying in like sleeping in the jungle? Oh yeah, you stay. The only thing you had was you're like a poncho or maybe a poncho blanket something like that you wrap up in and keep you if it's cool. But most time you didn't have anything at all except going on with sea rash, yeah, sea rats and things like that. But was it hard to sleep? I mean, were you able to get. I didn't have sleep ap you back then, so so you were able to catch some z's when you did on these trips. I'm sure. Yeah. We we those off sometimes. And what are you nineteen twenty years old? Are you going on? I turned twenty in Vietnam? Yeah, wow. And we well were being socked in. It was we went without any resupply for so long. We were getting pretty desperate. So finally they decided to have a day where it was going to be restocked. It was going to bring in the sea one thirty and you could fly over and a I mean cloud you We still couldn't see anything but the clouds right above you. So we heard this plane and he came over and his crash and it was a big crash down the jungle, probably about two or three miles from us. And they made a correction from that and came back over and they dropped the next one almost right in the middle of our perimeter, so we had plenty of food. Then they dropped another one just outside of our perimeter, so we got three three uh pallets dropped to us, and it was ammo in those pallets too. So after after we got plenty to eat, they said, well, we need to send a group to go pick up that palette that crashed into jungle. We knew approximate war was, but we didn't know where it was. So they sent fifty of us, about two and fifty in a. Company. So they they sent fifty of us to go find that pallette. So we took a group and the machine guns was with us, and we went down down the ridge, most of us, it was downhill. We got down there and probably I don't know, probably two three hours we were owned a pallet. But the pallette was stripped and all we could do was just follow the trash through the jungle. And what it was they would opened up the seat rath and they were getting this stuff out and they're throwing the trash you and we just kind of followed that. We had a trail, the whole big trail of you know, that we could kip open. Finally we caught up with them and we killed seven that evening. Wow. And so. Where we had got to they it was kind of like d this ravine. It was real real low down, and so they said, well, we're gonna leave five of you guys down here to set up an ambush over the bodies, and forty five of the guys went back up about halfway up the hill towards the rest of the company. So they are, you know, forty five up there, and it was five inn us. I was one. I was leading the group. It was any ambush you keep getting put on the point. I volunteered, so you know, I can't really it couldn't complain because I didn't care at that time. I was just. How do you feel? Are you feeling invincible? Are you feeling that you're If it's your time, it's your time? And I mean, well, like like I said, I had had prayed this prayer, and I did feel a lot better off knowing that, you know, I had the Lord on my side. If I did I did die, I didn't have to worry about it, you know. Wow. But we set up over the ambushed that night and then it was so dark you I mean, you couldn't see your hand in front of your face. It's still still socked in. And uh, the machine guns on one side of me and the radio mans or the other and uh, we had to click the radio every hour. Let him know we were live. Oh my goodness. The the machine gunner. We were sitting there and all of a sudden you hear something like somebody moving or out in front of where the bodies are, and he wanted permission to fire, and said, no, we're not going to fire till we can. We can't see anything, so no use firing because if we if you do fire, you're going to give it up your positions. Yeah, so we'll probably be dead then. So I just kept on clicking the radio and we passed the radio between us and make sure somebody stayed awake. So Matt Dawn, we decided, you know, just try to get back up the rest of the forty five guys, because I mean, you couldn't see, you couldn't really tell anything of nothing to shoot at. So we started up the trail and caught up with the guys and they were probably a couple hundred yards. Up a trail. Now we sat down and had breakfast. I could just say whatever some of the sea rats and so we was telling him about we're hearing some noise, but we didn't shoot. They said, you guys should have shot. We could have give you some lunaries, you know, some flares with a luna. So we said, well, we didn't do it. So they said, well, y'all going back down the hill first. So I had a guy that I had been breaking in on Point. He had been there a couple of weeks. So I asked him, I said, you feel like walking point because the point man is the only one who could have around in his chamber. Because what happened was if you if everybody had around the chamber, somebody falls down, they discharge a weapon, they could kill somebody, or they shoot him in the back. And that happened more than once. Sometimes it wasn't It wasn't mistakes. I think somebody just did like somebody, so they would they would kind of fall down and yeah, anyway, we h uh. This guy had volunteered to be points, so I figured he was as brave as I was. So he's walking in front of me and he comes around a bend. Now keep in mind I had had the chevrons of corporal chevrons that and one of the one of the little pins that that puts goes to the cover was mission off the back of one on one side of it. So I only had a pin on one side of my chiverns. Anyway, he he walked around the same rack, the same trail. We just came up, and there was three cooks standing in the trail setting up a rocket too, and they figured we'd be coming back down the trail, so they're setting up this rocket, and so we When he saw him, it scared him so bad that he just because he had a riot and run in the chamber. He just pulled a trigger, started shooting up in the air. Well. He turned around and ran right straight into me. And when he did, he hit those ship runs and you know, knocked me down, and I set up in his blood running them my face and what in the world happened. I didn't even know why he ran, or why he shot or what anything. All I know is I'm laying on the ground. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And and all of a sudden, we're back engaged in fire again. We're back doing a fire team maneuvers and moving up, moving up, and and he had it just scared him so bad when he saw those three set up the rockets. He uh, he scared him. So we we kept on going and ended up getting back down the hill almost where the bodies were, and so we and by then they had got the bodies up and it was a whole battalion. That we didn't know it. Oh my gosh, we're right working that way, right into the middle of this battalion, and and all of a sudden, somebody passed the word cease fire because we're running the ammo, because we've been fighting the night before and we're getting low on AMMO. So they asked us to, you know, don't don't shoot unless you actually see somebody or something in the jungle. A lot of people just shoot at movement, you know. So we're laying on the ground and I'm looking out and I know that most of the company is to my right. I'm the only one who left, and I'm looking there, and I saw this guy get up and he's he's probably forty to fifty yards from me, and he stood up and he's looking down to the jungle the other way. Nobody, like I said, nobody that I knew was over there. So he's looking that way. But I've got my rifle trained on him prone position, and I watched him and he had two check ons which wouldn't handle grenades, and he had him in his hands like this with a you know, between his fingers, and they've got they are activated by pulling a string. And I watched him he pulls a string, and I now then I know that just just a certain length of time, they're gonna go off. And instead, all of a sudden, he turns and looked right straight at me and he calls off throws these two grenades. They're coming right at me, and I just all I know is I pulled a trigger, and I know he he went down, but I balled up in a ball right there where the grenades were and they went off, but I you know, I don't even think I got hit at all, just maybe some strap roe went through my ear or something, but it was not bad. So I jumped up from that point and went over and dumped over behind this tree that had a real long route coming down. I jumped over there, and there he's the same guy that was both be walking point to the first. He was hiding back out behinde the tree, and he's scared. He's just sitting there, his shaking, he's scared to death, and I'm trying to I'm trying to act brave to him. Said, look, look, marine, you got to get back in the fight. We got to keep you know, we're up against the enemy, so we got to I said, now you give me a cover. I'm gonna go to that spot right out there, which maybe fifteen twenty yards from where I was. I said, now you give me cover and then I'm gonna be out there. You then you better come up. So he said, okay, So he's giving me cover. You know, I go crawling out there, and like I said, I hit the ground and I had just been there just seconds, and all of a sudden, I heard these grenades are falling all around me. And sure enough he comes up. But when he. Did, he landed on the grenade. Oh my god, and he had his flag jacket unzipped, and the grenade would it went right on one side of his flat jacket. Well, the uh, the flat jacket was pushed in, but he kind of blew him up in the air and uh. And when it went off, and anyway, I felt his pulse. He was still still alive, and so the flat jacket kind of kept him from getting all the damage, but it did go in and hit his lung on one side. And so there I got my backpack and I got a rifle and all that stuff. So I laid everything down, I picked him up, put him on my shoulders, and carried him back to the coleman. And I had to go find a coleman because he's he's back in the you know. And so I finally got up to him and and the corman says, all right, where's your backpack? I said, I said, I left it up there where I picked him up. He said, well, I need your backpack, he said, we got everybody's wounded. I need. I need some bandages. I said, well, okay, I'll go back and get my vantage. So I got back up and uh dropped him off, and went on back up, and dang it, I got. When I got back up front, the line had pulled pulled back about twenty fifteen, twenty yards from where my backpack was. It's still laying at there. So I'll go up to the machine gunner and I said, can you give me some cover? I gotta go there and get my backpack. He's sure I got you. So anyway, I go crawling down there, and I reached out and got my hand on my backpack. And when I did, I turned just to come back up a hill and RPG round landed right where I was, and a piece of strap roll from that RPG round about about two and a half three inches, went all the way to my hip, all the way to my bone in the back and it and so it blew a hole back here in my rear area. So I go back up to. The machine gunner and we're laying there in the middle of the battle trying to figure out here's another marine there too, And we were trying to figure out, how can you put a bandage on you butt? And we were laughing. We I mean, it was it wasn't funny, but it was funny sure at that time. So we tried to do that, and then anyway, we had to get that the marine that fell on the grenade or the grenade blue in front. We put him on a cable and they took him on up over top of the jungle. He was the shape cable down through the jungle and he was going up. He got shot in the same wound going to the cable. And I saw him on the hospital ship later on and he said, I can't believe you guys got out of there. Wow, He said, you you were just completely surrounded looked like ants all around you. And anyway, I had to walk because they didn't. They had he couldn't get safely get a chopper in there where we was at. So they brought another chopper up on the hill and the rest of our company was coming to us and U and so we just kind of retreated. We didn't Marines never retreat, but we were back back peddling get up the hill. But we had to go click from where I was wounded up to where the chopper was. And I was using my rifle like a cane walking and got up there. And as I was going up the hill, the squads in front of me would they put claimo mines on trees and it handed me the uh the activated a little thing it cuts, you know, cuts makes it go off. They would hand me that and and go on hid on up the hill. Well I'm sitting there waiting. I'd see here's popping up and I would hit the act to click it up to make it go off. And some of them didn't go off because they'd take the sea four out of the claim overs and use it to cook the chow uh. And so it was kind of like you you just if you didn't go off. Is you had to run real fast? Oh wow. When I was just scrambling to get up a hill and finally got up there, and when I did, they put me on a basket and pulled me up and into the chopper. Right after that, a rocket hit right into one of the fox holes in front of my guys, especially the machine gunner he was he was in a foxhole and that killed four gas in it. Uh, right right after I got on the chopper. I mean, just I was fortunate to get out of there. But you're a You're a and I mean, these stories are just unbelievable. Your bravery is just incredible. And I know reading the bio, your two time recipient, the Purple Hearts, are those the stories that you've told there and. That was March than that that was the first one was January the thirtieth, and then March the nath was the next one. And so both of those stories want the river and the one in the middle of the jungle there in that down in that valley, those are the the efforts that you made that. That got you the Purple Hearts. Yeah, man, that those two stories are just chilling. Steve Boseman's talked about this, and we've had some and I've seen some other guys talk about So the Marine Corps is really set up where you are the baddest dudes. On the planet. I mean, the pointment. And everything the Marine Corps does is support of those guys that are in the field or that are in the jungle, and you're the point man. I mean, what an honor it is to talk to you. Well, it was. It was an honor just to be here a period, because I mean, I'm. Blessed to be back to the truth. I mean, to go through all that and to to get up in front of that you know, bunker with the machine guns sticking out and capture the guy. I don't know why he didn't shoot. I mean, it's more I know that there's a lot of other brave people out there that didn't make it back, and I feel like I've been given the opportunity to live for them. And that's one of the reasons I've become a veteran advocate to try to help anywhere I can help veterans at. Uh, you know that. And I've run into all kinds of different situations and and founded to help help people because when you when you get out of like I got at the Marine Corps. Well, I didn't tell you the whole story. My my uh my uh uh son was actually I was given custody to him before I left going to Vietnam. Now, when I went away to boot camp, I didn't have custody. But when I come back, Uh, some things worked out through the lawyers and everything, and I. Ended up getting custody him. So that was I had a reason to come back. Now the first first reason I was volunteer for everything because because I didn't, I didn't think I had a reason to come back. But now, so and I had met a lady before I went over to Vietnam. Uh, and we became she she rouged to write to me all the time and and I swore down I would never get married again. Well uh, as of last last Friday, Uh, we've been married fifty five years. Well so, and I don't. And I'm sorry I had to jump in and thank you for your service with those stories. When you got lifted out of the jungle, and are you then going to a navy ship or or a hospital and then they work on you in. The hospital ship. Uh, And then do you have light duty after that or is what? Well? I spent almost a month on the hospital ship Sanctuary, and then when I came back to my rear area, they uh, the top sergeant Day says, uh, I need somebody to be supply sergeant, and I need somebody to be n c O. I C of troops in the rear, noncommissioned obviously in charge of troops in the rear. And then the other one is, I want you to be a barber. So anybody comes out of the bush and heeds going R and R, you gotta trim their hair. Plus you gotta trim my hair. It's cut his and he All you had to do is just take everything off of the razor, just hit it, you know. But anyway, I agreed to do that, And I say, I thought I was gonna be able to get back there and play with my guitar, you know. But my guitar was gone, but somebody else had left another one there. So you never did find your guitar you took with it. No, somebody took that one. I guess it was a little better than this one. But anyway, but when I when I did stayed in the rear. I used. I knew what the guys needed in the bush, and so I would go trade, uh, camo and stuff like that. I trade some of the stuff for the things that they needed and uh and and I made trips out to the bush and got to see the guys and it uh, it was good, you know, get with them. You're listening to American hero stories and life, liberty, happiness. We're talking with Vietnam veteran Gary Witt. Gary, tell us a little bit about your stuff that you're doing now with veterans. Well, like I said, I have a group that meets every Thursday for PTSD and we've been meeting up, I guess for fifteen to twenty years. Because there's a lot of guys that get out of service. They don't really realize. You think it's going to go back and go back into society, but that doesn't happen. But if you've faced been on the battlefield like I had, and I realize what they've gone through. And some of the some. Of the veterans today are being deployed more than once, you know, come back two or three months or six months later. And and. That's why you see so much veteran suicide, you know, because it's discouraged into people to be deployed and see all this and then come back and h But we have a group. I've been in the military, Y of the Purple Heart in in Lynchburg had a chapter that we started. Uh I was I was commander in Lynchburg for several years, and then we got I went to Lynchburg to talk to them about becoming a Purple Art city and they said, well, we're going to challenge you to to make it a Purple Heart region, you know, to get a community it's community like the Lynchburg region with all the surrounding counties, said get all them to be part of this Purple Heart community. And uh so we did that. And so I went around to all the counties and and had them they do a decoration and and uh be and actually lynch Virginia itself is a Purple Art state. And uh so by being part of this what they call the Purple Heart Trail, we was able to get that to happen with Lynchburg and all the surrounding counties. And so sometimes you'll see a Purple Heart community sign. I think it's several here in Bedford over here at the grave sites that were a lot of the Bedford boys. You know, we've put a bench over there, and it's a lot of things that we've done to enhance the community and and work with the community make things better for veterans. And Lynchburg Grey Veterans Council, I'm I'm a board member of that and we we've got so many things going on, all the different organizations that participate in that and and I'm glad. Even today, I was supposed to go out on a group. My wife didn't want me to go because I've had a heart attack and stroke and all this stuff, so she's in you don't need to go out in that heat. Because they were doing a ramp bill for for the Purple Heart Homes. It's another Central Virginita chapters and they were doing a ramp build today and I wasn't able to go help them. But this is something that you know, any veteran that needs some assistance like that, all you got to do is go to the Purple Art Homes dot organ and UH and sign up for you can put in a request and we'll build a ramp for you to get into your house. You know, some veterans can't get up there the steps like you used to. And you've heard of the Desmond Doss House. So we got open Lynchburg. So we kind of taken care of that and keep veterans in that. So we're trying to cut down on a veterans homelessness. And but you know, it's just it's good to be able to even this meeting I have. Every every week, I'm meeting somebody all the time. It's always people that want to know more about how, you know, how they can get help. And I run into people and I can tell pretty quickly after very shortly after talking with them if they've got PTSD, and I recommend him to go get over to the Ronoke Veterans Group up in Rono. It's a VET center. And our fellow by name of John Whitlock, he been over thirty years here in Lyunchburg. He drive up from Ronoke every week and run this group. And that's what got me started in the groups. And and uh he's he's uh he retired now, but the group still goes and we if anybody is interested in getting in involved in that, they could do that. But just going going through the Ronoke Vet Center and sign up and you have to have you DD two fourteen and show that your service. But it's all kinds of things out there that can help veterans. And I kind of felt like I was slighted when I got out of service because when I when I got out finally, they gave me thirty percent disability. And I'm saying, well, okay, thirty percent. It's one hundred dollars a month. So I thought, I, you know, was doing real good. Well, this fellow that I worked with was had been in the Air Force and he was he'd never been in combat, but uh, some reason, he had a ward come up in his hand and he put in He went and claimed a shelf shock through the via. You never hear of that today, but that was back when World War two people talking to shelf shock. But he had a ward come up in his hand, and he he went and applied for disability for that ward and got thirty percent disability. And I'm working them side by side of the guy. You know, it's this is this isn't right. So he went back and appealed it and they gave him seventy percent. And I'm saying, well, you know how did he do this? So then I went to the VIA. Oh it's ot on leeds A Road now, uh, And I said, something is not right. Why you know, I only got thirty percent, so they would reviewed my case and gave me fifty percent right away. That's that was about twenty years ago, I guess. And so he went back again, and by then I think he was getting some help with some assistant, somebody that knew what they were doing, and he gave him some pills or something to make it kunt of shake a little bit. And he went back. And and he got one hundred percentsh And I felt like, you know, that's that's not right for people to, you know, be doing stuff like that. And so there's a lot of people that back then, you know that we're getting screwed when he got out the VA. So I feel like you need to help help any veteran that that you can to get what they deserve, you know, And so anyway that we can, through PTSD or whatever use there's all kinds of ways that you can find things that will help the veterans get what they deserve. But I've just been involved as a veteran in Africa for the last fifteen twenty years anyway, and I joined the Vietnam Veterans from America after well, Steve and some of the guys, David Stokes and they brought the moving Wall to Lynchburg back twenty years ago. So that's when I started getting involved, you know, when I saw that moving wall and I ended up going to the mall wall in d C. And when when I went to the wall and I saw the names on the wall of some of my buddies, I mean, it touched my heart and it just made me, you know, realize that I needed I'm here for a reason. You know, we all give it a second chance for some reason. So I'm trying to find that exactly what I can do to help help these people. You know. Well, thank you so much for spending time with us today. It was certainly an honor to interview you and hear these stories. Thank you so much for your service and everything that you do for the veterans as well. Do you want to ask the Yeah, you can't get out without the hardest question. We've got the hardest question. We got to ask you if you could pick anybody in history, dead or alive, any time in history, who would you pick and who would you hang out with for twenty four hours and where would you hang out? Well, I was going to say George Washington because he's the originator of the Purple Heart metal. But I mean that's probably a good answer because you're actually going up on August the eighth and ninth. We're going to Mount Vernon his home. Yeah, and they're going to have a celebration of National Purple Heart Day, which is August the seventh. Oh wow, And. So that'd be a good one to yeah, ask you know what all happened because he's when he came up with a badge of murd they called it. Wow. So well, thank you again, appreciate you being on the show. Yeah, thank you so much. Okay. At Boon Tractor, we're more than just a dealership. We are your neighbors, serving Virginia and West Virginia. We offered top quality equipment and personalized service to support your farming and construction needs. With locations in Bedford, Danville, Salem, Witheville, and Louisbourg, we're always nearby, ready to lend a hand. Trust Boon Tractor where community comes first and your success is built on quality and integrity since nineteen eighty four. Need insurance in Bedford. I'm David Honeker, local State Farm agent. Whether it's home, auto, or life insurance, We've got you covered with personalized service and great rates. 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With the enemy shooting in throwing grenades, and. I have nothing to complain about. You know, it's hot outside. What did you think, Emma? What's wrong? On one? She was eating its snaped. On she was over there. We're gonna start getting popcorn for these man. I mean, stories were just crazy. I mean it's like I was watching a movie listening to it. People really need to go back and watch the video on YouTube later, watch your reactions. If people haven't learned by now, they will that we are not professionals. When we're interviewing. The man literally is telling us a story where he starts with he got a girl pregnant. Yeah, And before I say anything, I said nice, dude. I almost laughed because because I couldn't look up at you. I know, because I was like, dude, you literally just said nice. I know you're listening to on everything, but I mean, I don't know why. That's why people need to go back and watch it on YouTube. Dude, I look at my phone because I knew what you meant. I mean, you were just following along, but. You were I could not look up at you because I knew he was went. I look at my phone and my wife had texted nice really yeah, And I'm sitting here going, oh my god, I. Did say nice. Yeah, I'm gonna go pressing nice good good work. If people probably listening to this going, what is wrong with him? What a story though? The lady that he wrote wrote to him why I was in Vietnam. He's incredible. For fifty five years, these are like I don't I've oftentimes I wonder Trent and I remember this, at least it's engraved in my memory. When when we stormed, it's not pack dad kuwait when that happened? And what was it called desert storm? I mean the images of them giving up before we even fire. They were throwing their weapons down and walking across the desert. Yeah, supposed to be the Iraqi National Army was supposed to be the baddest dude. Yeah, Like we were going to and they just quit. They just quit. And when I say quit, I mean they quit. They didn't even choot, They just And I think about what this dude went through. This is why we hit. We literally live in the greatest country ever invented, and we take it for granted. Because we have badasses like that. Man. So if you watch the movie We were Soldiers, it was when the army first stepped foot in mel Gibson's the first boot on the ground essentially. But the story is the French had been there ten years before and they couldn't do anything. So the French National Army couldn't get it done. Of course, so we go in there. But but really the thing is they've been fighting their entire lives, the North and South Vietnam. They were just used to fighting this. This was no big deal to them. We're just the next people they're. Going to kill. Incredible, all right, yep. Oh so he got to drama. Yeah, I was watching. I was just flipping through Netflix and I saw the Epstein Files. Yeah, I had seen that time. Well, I saw the the It's in the top ten again, girl ling Maxwell. I had seen that. That was a different, but I had never really seen this one. What a creep, Just a creep. I got away with. The initial arrest was beyond me. That's what I said to Ashley when I was watching it. I just looked at her because she works in the courts, and I went, how does that? How does that guy get away. Yeah, how does he? I mean, why is there an eight month investigation? Yeah? You knew it from day one? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it was a sad story, as I recall. Yeah, so anyway, that's I'm really looking and searching for something. Is there anything that is like going to be released coming soon. That yes, you'll like it. It's the behind the scenes like they do for Drive to Survive in NASCAR they're doing for twenty twenty four season of SEC. Oh so yeah, I saw it coming up. I'm sure they're doing it before the SEC start is sweet, but on Netflix they're doing it behind the scenes of the SEC. So I'm looking forward to that mine. I just did it. I knew I wasn't gonna like it because I'm not an anim Saidler fan. I know everybody thinks he is funny, but I just never have been. And I think there was one movie where he was a dad that was kind of cool, but the Happy Gilmore was okay. The fight with Bob Barker is funny. I kind of got that. Did you watch his newer movie. It's a basketball movie. It's called Hustle. There's no way I'm watching it. Why was it good? Amma, it's really good if I watch it, Well, you don't like anything, so that's not true. It's about this. He goes over accurate tug. To get a guy that I forget where he's plunting like he's just like a street player, and he brings him over and tries to get him drafted into the NBA. Okay, well, I'm gonna check it out to see if I finally like one. But this is a lot. But man, it is. I mean, and you know when you're going into it, it's going to be stick humor type thing that it was just so over the time. I couldn't enjoy it. I don't want to make it that other people can enjoy it. Because forty two million people watched it this weekend, it's the biggest Netflix Day opening weekend ever. Wow. Oh there's a lot of stars in this too. By the way, Edwards, isn't. It you know how Luca Dungeon isn't it? I don't know if you've Queen Latifa. Oh have you seen Luca's new body? Yes? In shape? I mean, didn't even recognize he's not a dit anymore. Wow, didn't even recognize him honestly, So I mean, I could give him a little props if he actually does play defense. Too, right, But if you're listen in retro, if you're Dallas, you tried and he didn't. I still don't think that it's a bad move. I don't either. I think they both may end up. Both of them never made it out of the first round last year, so who cares? But where else I going? That's it on the Sports No, go ahead, You've got Tucker interview. Oh. I looked up. We had talked about Superman whether that was a fly or not? Yes, And I got a lot of comments for my original discussion item about that, and I think the reason why, yes, you can still call it a fly. It made five hundred million at the box office, which is supposed to be a block buster if it gets over five. Hundred million cost But so did F one. F one. Both of them had made over five hundred million for summertime movies, which is pretty cool. However, F one only costs fifty to two hundred and fifty million to make. They need to make seven hundred million to break even. That seems then that seemed harder to believe that it's crazy. I mean, when that's superman, I would think, is all cgi. I can't imagine it costs that much. They don't. They don't really knock those buildings down, people like Woody. They gotta get paid. I guess so. And then the other thing I saw, man, if you can, and I know I tout this and not a lot of people will do it. But those Tucker interviews are so good. And he has Charlie Kirk on there. It's two hours of just riveting discussion back and forth about the country and Trump and I bet you Tucker says it three times, is anybody listening to you? And Charlie says, actually, Trump does listen to me, like he's engaged and he knows what I'm talking about about the young people. Yeah. And Congress doesn't get it. No. And it was really a fascinating interview. I watch a lot of Charlie's stuff when he's on campuses. Yes, And I don't think people understand how effective he is for. A guy that didn't go to college himself to go right in the heart of people that think they're smarter than everybody else and he kills them. No. And what's so great about it is they try, Yeah, they know he's coming. Yeah, and they but they try to bring academic stuff up. Yeah, like there's no way. And dude knows it. I know every time. Every time, and ANSWER's a question, I'm going, all they got him and. His answer is like, oh, he got him back. Like I think to myself, like literally, I saw a TikTok where the guy was quoting something out of a book, right, and he says that's not corrective on page sixty eight, And I'm like, Charlie, there's no way you read that book. Wow, Like how could you? Like, but he has like he knows it. And talking to Tucker, he rattles off a couple of quotes out of the Bible, just just runs with it. The guys is pretty on the verge of genius. I think. Yeah, Ben Shapiro does that too, by the way, really effectively. I agree. Yep. All right, Uh moving on to sports. It's time for sports. We're gonna cut have ad it out today, yep, Sinara, Uh, I don't know what we'll do. Let's just get through it. Let's go, let's roll. Indy, Hey, I can sacrifice theyard after listening to this guy, Yeah, it's a brickyard. Four hundred. Yeah, it was a good race. Dude. It's the end of that, you know what. My overwhelming thought was, never go back to the road course, right, I mean, even if it's only half full. So it was a good race. We were leaving the reunion, so I turned it on to a NASCAR channel on XM radio fixes reunion so I could hear the ending because it was it had just come out of caution to be the green white checker right, And dude, god radio is so much better. Ah, I haven't listened to an MRN or whatever, and. They are you know, Bubba powers down low and it just you can feel it, right, And my wife so they have a wreck and it's going to be another green right checker. Yeah, And my wife says, why do they scream when they're going? And I'm like, dude, I'm over here. You know. I could feel just how powerful that was. And of course Bubba while swins it and he beats the sports Yeah, he beats the sports best driver at Andy, and so it was a big deal. It is a big deal. Like even I was like, wow, that's impressive. So my question to you is is he the most successful kid of Rusty Wallace? If Rusty doesn't know about it. No, I love the tiktoks and memes of him grabbing his child that it is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. That as a boy of Caucus, that's the biggest video meme, right. But kudos to Bubba. He's he's put in his dues. Honestly, he has paid his dues and he doesn't have the crutch. Yeah, and he seems to be doing less of that. Correct Now you you can't flip on ESPN because they they're going to give the crutch. It's awful. Yeah, But for the average fan, I think they're like, yeah, this is dude can drive like it's legit. He's getting better. So anyway, we're on the Iowa Speedway this Sunday. Wells they got corn in the infield. I don't. I think it's one of those flat tracks. I have not made my picks, but I will right now go ahead with yours. I've got Christopher Bell winning. He's my high point. The reason I am because he's kind of falling out. I mean, he's one of three races and then he's disappeared. So I'm kind of like it's time for some people to start showing up again. I got Ross chastained for the same reason nice and I took my long shot is Eric Jones, Damn you. I did it because I knew you'd want to do it, and then I might keep you from doing it. Now I'm kidding, all right. So this race is called the Iowa Corn three fifteen. Legacy has been showing up a little bit more, haven't they. The Yeah, they're starting starting to get up, so I think, and I'm literally making this up, but I'm I know that Jimmy Johnson has flirted with Dodge oh yeah, and they're supposed to be coming a couple of years, right, and so I mean, I'm not saying that they haven't given him the pieces to be successful, but it can't be a coincidence that he's flirting to go with a manufacturer and all of a sudden their cars seem to have some speed in them. Yeah, but it is good to see them in the right heading, in the right direction. So I'm gonna take Ryan Blaney. Yeah. I was thinking about that one too. I just I still feel like there's something missing with him, like he won it last time. Oh okay, well there you go. Uh and then I'm gonna take God he's been on a roll. I'm gonna take Chase Briscoe, Yeah, he's been good lately. And then my long shot. Yeah, I'm gonna go. Who. None of these guys are any good m at Legacy. By the way, John Hunter, Nimachek and Eric Jones are twentieth and twenty second. That's not too bad for two teammates that kind of a new newer team, right, gon. Go Alex Bowman. Yeah, I thought about that too. The Showman. He's one that's a long shot that gets long shot odds. That shouldn't get long shot odds. You can't. You shouldn't be able to drive for Rick Hendrick can get long shot odds, right, but he does just because he just hasn't. He's disappeared. I bet on him in a couple of times and he just doesn't show up. So yepright, so those are my picks, all right? Moving on, uh NFL college football is coming up. Will we have Aaron back this year? Definitely? Okay, yep. We gotta work out when, and usually it's the first week is September, right before the big football games, or the last week August. Okay, so we look, we can look forward to that, ye coming up. So let's see moving on to what's happened, it's time for news. This is always my favorite part of the show. It is what's your favorite part? Dim Mount Rushmore when they're good? Hey, this was his idea. Yeah, sorry, I'm not participating. Oh good, I got plenty for you. All right. So America has hit the one hundred and fifty billion dollars in trade revenue from the tariffs. Yeah, like that's incredible. Again positive news. At the same time, we had the highest GDP growth at the same time. So I'll let you know when to cut this video off. But this was the Megan Kelly's reaction to getting the tariff money coming in, and so she put a little collage together of what it was like when Trump literally first took office. This is what was going to happen due to the tariffs. Cut one. This is what the media said was going to happen on the Trump tariffs. You can't undo the damage the Trump slump is upon us. Now we're in a car driven by somebody who was blackout drunk, and it's. Like one of those bad Bugs Bunny tunes. This is not Liberation Day in America, it's recession day, the. Greatest man made economic crisis in modern presidential history, and paralyze American businesses large and small. What does anybody go to her. Forcing them to lay off people, to stop hiring or pause investment decisions. It feels like a there's an expression in tech called chaos monkey. Well, this particular chaos monkey is throwing feces. All over the planet essentially and saying it means nothing. All right, that's good. So no, here's the point is when I watch Sunday mornings when they these liberal hosts are having Republicans on and they're grilling them about the economy. That's good, By the way, how come you don't you don't have one of those people on and go, hey, but you just said we were in a recession. Yeah, you literally said it was the Trump slump. What's going on? Yeah? Nobody. They never asked one question. It is to these people horrendous that they get away with it is literally fiction versus fact. Like, And so here's the problem, Trent, and I saw this this weekend. I don't know if you paid attention to this. What's going on in DC with restaurants no, have you seen this. Okay, So restaurants are closing in an alarming rate in the in DC. Because the federal employees are fired and gone. No worse, way worse than that. Literally, they were saying, on average, three restaurants a week now are closing in the District of Columbia. That's how bad it is. You know why because they've voted to raise the minimum wage from tips to minimum wage. So you know you used to get a different rate when you've got tips. Well they said, no, you've got to be paid what everybody else is getting paid plus tips. Well, I mean, this is this is what I this is. A the restaurant owner can't afford to pay. Of course, of course they can't. So this is what's crazy about all of this. There's ramifications, right, All you have to do is go back. So one of the people on the news said, well, you know, the people voted on it. This was not a council vote, right, this was a memorandumus is what they call it. That it went out on a ballot and the people voted okay, referendum. That's because the news media only gave you one side of the story. You just suckered into it. You voted for it. Now guess what they're all scrambling on a way to try to get rid of it. Yeah, in the middle of a season without you know, before an election, because it's done such so much damage. I'm telling you, DC's so messed up that that discussion about Congress taking it back over it should be discussed more. I agree. All right, moving on. Did you hear the Cobert the what's it Cobert? Yeah, that they had protests outside. It was one of those. Remember I think you and I laughed one time because the Lynchford paper had said that there were numerous people protesting, right, and I think we counted five or something. But you couldn't write five, like it was that easy to count. You could have wrote five. And I think that's what happened here. Have you ever been to a late night show. No, let me tell you why. It's not a big deal. They literally line up to give tickets out daily because it's the daily inside. Yeah, right, they're begging. Look, there are people on the streets begging you to go. I went to Letterman, So it's it's not like it's a hard ticket to get. It's a free ticket. So they just want the crowd inside. Yeah, they had eleven o'clock at night. Yeah, well no, it's not they all of these shows have done during the day, em at six. Yeah, and so they're begging you to go to these late night shows. So you're saying people are so outraged they're gonna protest. It's so stupid, right, nobody cares about Cobert was. It was it packed in the streets, stopping cars. No, I don't think a handful of people. Like five people, same same bs I got. You know Disney when they do those Disney shows and name shows the live audience, they do the same thing. I remember being down there and they try to get you to come into the studio and it's air conditioned, so you just walk in and I went. I did enjoy Letterman. It was in the Ed Sullivan Show and we were on the front row. Madonna was on that day. It was a pretty cool show, very cool. I enjoyed it. So talking points. Yes, listen, I'm tired of people treating Bernie Sanders as if he's a good person. Right. Bernie Sanders is a useless idiot, just lied and lives in his mansions. Dude, I'm so tired of and the people who literally go, you know, he's bringing up good No, he's bringing up the same stuff he's always since he's been a senator, nothing has changed. So his big thing now is oligarchy. Right, Oh yeah, okay, well check this out cut. To country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligauky. The United States of America today is increased becoming. An oligocky, more and more moving toward in oligaky. We are moving in the direction of oligaky. We will move even more rapidly in the direction of an oligoty. This great country is evolving into an oligarchic society. It is called oligaky, and that is the system we are rapidly moving, Todd. This is a budget that moves our country rapidly into the direction of oligaky. A handful of billion a ss are moving this entire planet. That's good, Tod. So for those who can't see this, you know, it literally starts with what year nineteen ninety three two? That was just twenty eighteen, But. Even on the shows, I think that's what it says. Even on the shows in twenty twenty five, he still uses that word somebody actually said, that's the dumbest thing. Nobody even understands what you're saying. Correct me, Who gives a damn nobody knows what you're talking about. I guess what what's weird to me is he uses the same sentence. Yeah, like, dude, they haven't heard you for thirty years. What makes you think it's gonna click now? And I don't know how they And this is their leader, if you want to call it, because he should have been the president, say if they hadn't cheated. Yeah, Democrats cheated in election. They will never admit that, but they did. All right, win win win. We're gonna win, win, win, and we're gonna make America great again. You ought to be speaking. About Bill Clinton, who went to the island twenty eight times. I never went to the island, did not write a letter, said, I don't even know what they're talking about. Now, somebody could have written a letter and used my name, but that's happened a lot. All you have to do is take a look at the dossier, the fakedsier. Everything's faked with that administration, everything's faked. With the demo. Take a look at. What they just found. About about the dots. Everything is faked. There are a bunch of sick people. He's exactly right. Nails it. Yeah, he nails everything. I know. You're just and back to tariffs. I was listening to the Buck and Clay and Buck Sexton was saying, Hey, way back in February and March. When he was saying this, I really didn't know if I believed him either. He said, But the one thing that we did say on this show, which we also said here, is Trump seems to be right more than anybody else. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and see if this works. And if it doesn't work, you just reinstitute something back. That's the beauty of it. So the liberal host asked, what's the guy like so much? Besett? Oh the best guy? Yeah, gosh, she is so good. And so she asked she was trying to get him in the whole drome. Pal, right, is he going to fire him? And he said he should step down. Yeah, we shouldn't have to fire him. He should step down. But Trump appointed him. And I loved his answer. He's not always gonna get it right. So when he doesn't the difference between him and everybody else is you're fired. You're done. Yeah, exactly. And listen, there's nobody in today's society that can look at your own power and tell me that. Dude is non biased in making his decisions. You see him walking around within the FED building. He told him he was three billion down. He goes, well, I don't know if that's true, and he says, here, let me show you, and he pulls out the receipts. And that's when I said, you're a FED chair trying to tell a builder. Yeah, that's what he's done his whole life. Of course he knows what the costs are. Oh that was so funny. But here we are again, no interest rate change again today, and two people voted apparently to have an interest rate change, and apparently this is the first time since nineteen ninety three that the FED chair has not gone with recommend votions. So, I mean, I don't know all the details and the numbers quite like I should. However, when I hear that the economic indicators were worse in October last year, of course, but you reduced the rates then than what we have now, Well was it because there was an election coming up? So I heard a really good business guy say, typically, with an economy as good as theirs is, right now, you wouldn't low interest rates. But he said the reason you would in this aspect is the one thing that is lagging behind that desperately needs help is the housing Marke housing, and so you absolutely would lower them because the economy is doing so great. And he goes to simply deny that you're doing it on purpose at this point on the street. Really, what it is the housing market, and because that's what I'm in the middle of for a living, is It's simple. People had three percent interest rates forever. Yeah, they're not getting rid of three percent to go get seven percent or eight percent. So it's got to come down to get people to get rid of those older homes. Yeah, all right, moving on to Mount Rushmore. We don't have a bumper, no the train. Yeah, we needed like a we need like a George Washington quote or something. What book are you reading? Nothing? I was texting Jamie, but. What book are you reading? I have no idea, so wouldn't know the name of the book. No, It's on my kendle, so I didn't look at it. I'm trying to rush through this so I can save half. At it saved the show, all right, Today's Mount Rushmore is wrestling great? Yes, that have passed that part I didn't catch up with. But I get you. Well, I haven't watched wrestling a lot in the last fifteen years, so it'd be hard for me to. Yeah, I try to watch like raw now and it's that Dustin Rhodes. Yeah, son, And what's the brothers that fight? One's a boxer and the other ones the wrestler. They were YouTubers. Oh jesus, the Paul brothers. Yeah, he's like one of them. So I think what they've tried to do nowadays is show the behind the scenes to make it more interesting. Because I watched a little clip the other day of Dustin Rhodes and another wrestler and something went wrong during the and like one of them almost broke his neck. But they're literally showing a real time behind the scenes, wow, behind the curtain. And while it's interesting to me, your product is suffering if you have to show that in order to get people to watch. Yeah, Like we don't have the characters we used to have. I mean, what's kind of weird is I think Netflix now carries the Raw and that's one of the top ten shows when I watch Monday nights. So somebody's watching, Yeah, all right, mine are. Yeah, Andre the Giant Odell Hulk Hogan. I can't believe I don't have Andrea. I just like I just forgot about him. Hulk Hogan, Yeah, who just passed away so quickly. On the Hulk Hogan deal. Literally, my daughter was playing sand Beach volleyball the other night, and so it was late when we left, and the waffle house was about the only choice we had, so we went into one. At Load's. Yes, the cook I almost laughed out loud. He literally turned around and goes, can't get over Hulk Hogan's dead. He's talking to himself and he punches the counter. Oh man, what a following he had. Like he's so upset, And I was like, wow, just that's crazy. Yeah, one of my favorites. Man was Ultimate Warrior, one of my favorites by far. Yeah, and one I figured people would forget about. But she was a massive deals China. Yeah, she should be on the women So, Emma, I don't know if it was when you weren't here or before here that she thinks we should do like the lady version of the Mount rushmorees. Okay, next week we'll do the hottest Women. Yeah, Sable. Then you say that we don't ever have a woman that and so I had to. Pick a No. I didn't say you had to you. I was just wondering why. You didn't have one. Well, so China made it. But do you remember Sable? Yes, number one? Yeah, no doubt She's on my mount Rushmore. I have her behind Gibbler. I don't even know who that is, and he the guy that does cookies. No, she was the best. I think it was Lisa Gibbler or something. I don't even know who it is. Uh. And then my last one. Was the Macho Man ran no Savage, so jumping on mine number one. So I started with just these are icons, and I know they're dying out, but they're still to me the top five. And I don't even know who I. Would take off my list. If I just did a Mount Rushmore of wrestlers. Rick Flair is number one, hul Cogan number two, Macho Man number three, and the other two. I love. That just made me watch wrestling again. Stone Cold in the Rock. Oh, yes, those are the guys that watch. But if you had to have somebody dead in there. I'm putting Andre the Giant would be in there for sure. But here's a couple of names that you didn't have in your list that if did you not think about them? Or what is Rowdy Roddy Piper? Do you remember that guy? Oh? God, yeah, the piper's pitted. Yeah, had the skirt and he just all of a sudden, he just get angry, just to just get. Go, go from zero to one thousand. Yeah. Man, this guy was my hero. He was like my Evander Holyfield, the guy that was underneath the You had all the stars, but Evander Holyfold you don't have Mike Tyson. And the big was that guy that just finally moved up and got mine In that category was Ricky Steamboat. Oh yeah. He was that guy that just was always and then all of a sudden he became really really good at the end of his career. And do you remember Jimmy Snooker. Yeah, Jimmy stuff was fly. Yes, he would go from one belt turnbuckle diagonally into the other turnbuckle or he would fly. Yeah, you know. He also I think he went to jail for Yeah. This was like some really bad women things. So I I liked raw, but when I was a wrestling fan, it was w c W and it was the not before all the nitro stuff. It was way back with Greg the Hitman, Valentine, Oh, Greg, the Hammer Hammer. Yeah, it was the Assassin one, the Assassin two, the Road Warriors, Ricky Steamboat, Wahoo McDaniel. I mean to me that was wrestling. There was a guy at the Junkyard Dog. Oh yes, oh man, they were so good w CW or when I was younger, it was like Atlanta. It was the Atlanta station that did it. And then the w e F. What are they now? W what is it? Wow? I can't think of it used to be w w F, w w F and. Then became w w E right, yes, yes, so the w w E it it took over him by far. Was it was a really good documentary on man. Yeah. Thanks. That is Stacy Keepler. You don't remember her. No, but I need to look her up. People need to go back and watch that's funny. All right, moving on to have had it. I just got three things to say. God, bless our troops, God bless America. Stock all right, so in honor, and I guess because we're doing the interview. I did have that right that Carolina. Kevin's not coming in today. I saw where you pushed him out so you could have more for have at it. But I did tell him, no, that's what we talked about in this in the show meetings. He hasn't responded, so he's mad at me. Now. I'm sorry. Well, I mean, I didn't make it up. It was Emma that made it happen. She said we need more women on. Here's what she said. Yes, I got the clip with the white hair guy. He's like, you really don't know who hul Cogan is. Sorry, just so you know, Emma, I did. I went back and looked at our most viewed interviews so far and it was a woman. Yes she is. Yeah, on the she's the most watched on the YouTube, the ones that we uploaded. So I don't know how TikTok. I need to look back at that one. Yeah, but no, it wouldn't be TikTok either. Would it. And don't forget, did I put this in my stuff today? I didn't do that. Yeah, that was a Danny Young that we did and her story was really good. I'm telling you, man, I'm so absorbed in these interviews. When we go to dom there are stories I'm just like transfixed in the jungle with him looking at the stuff that he's having to look at. What are you doing? I was looking for my notes. I know I put it somewhere and I must have deleted it somehow. But before you get into have at it real quick, people, well people need to know. Don't have at it. Go to YouTube, go to at l l H podcast Underscore podcast right and subscribe. Gotta subscribe, which. Means several people have told me, oh, I don't know what my password is on Gmail. Just make an account. Correct They act like, well, I don't remember. I was like, just nothing rocket science to it. Just create an account and subscribe. If you want to email the show, you can email Brian b r y a n at Grove Street FM dot com. This media is quatching it. Mine still Grove Street and so is yours. Nobody email me there can check it. Just just just text me anyway, all right. So, dude, for because of the subject of the Mount Rushmore and seeing this last year, I am not kidding you. I loved are you listening? You just staring at something in the last year, I loved the rn C like literally every night. I was transfixed because it was the best line up of speakers that they. Had, best RNC we've ever had. Okay, when when he came up here, I thought, okay, this is going to be gimmicky. All right, I'll just get through this one. I had chills at the end of this thing, and I was like clapping it by myself into basement watching this thing. This is a holkster. Last year at the rn C cutting down, I. See all the real Americans. I think about how Donald Trump, his family was compromised. When I look out there and I see Donald Trump, I think about how his business was compromised. But what happened last week when they took a shot. At my hero was taking the jacket off, and. They tried to kill the next president of the United States. Enough was enough and I said, let Trump omania, Ron wild Brother, Let. Trump a media rule again. Let Trump a media make America right again. I got chills down. He rips that shirt off and you expected to be his chest and it's a Trump shirt, not a Hulkster shirt. Who is that? Wow? Oh man, he was so good at that. Did you remember that convention and then the Democrats. Oh it's you went from that which is so uplifting. Yeah, every night pure like depression. Yeah, no American flags, no pride, no Patriots Act. Yeah, perfect segue. Let's get in the dumbasses this no doubt after you hear this, Like, you know, I talked to my mom all the time. She goes Trent. There's interviews that the president's son Hunter did. She said, I mean that was atrocious. She said, I hope y'all play that on your podcast. I said, actually, I have another one tonight. Listen to what he talks about here and tell me this is not the dude that was running the country for the last few years. CUP fifteen. Kamla Harris. I think that she would have made an incredible president. I know that she was an incredibly loyal vice president and she did everything that she could to support my dad everything and to support me and my family personally. I mean, I truly love her like family, and I think that she would have made an incredible president. And I think she ran an incredible campaign. You know who did not want Kamala Harris to be president and did not want her to be the nominee, Nancy Pelosi didn't want her to be. None of Nancy Pelosi's people wanted her to be. They wanted an open convention, they wanted a floor fight, they wanted a I don't know what the hell they wanted, but they wanted to be the ones to annoint whoever they were going to annoint to become the next president of the United States. Who do you think that would have been. I don't know. I really don't know. I don't have any idea. All I know is that they definitely did not want Kamala Harris and again, which undermined her, which undermined the campaign. You know, I mean I look at these people and talk about like, well, where were they? We had one hundred days, she got a hundred. She literally was handed one hundred million dollar check. She ran her ass off. She had an incredible organization, incredible grassroots organization. David Pluff took over the campaign. You know, what did they do? Where did they spend their money? Those camo hats they thought were going to make the kids go crazy, but most of the kids are pretty bad. It was Look, I'm telling you. One of the reason I think that whether you know, I'm not a conspiracy theories completely. But I don't know what happened in that election, dude. I mean, you can tell he just literally ran things. He knew enough that Pelosi didn't want to have Kamala. Is they skipped the part of he said Nancy Pelosi wanted to have an open convention. Yeah, you mean she wanted there to be an election. Somewhat of a vote. Now, would they have controlled the vote on the phone, sure, but it's still I mean, and he said they wanted to anoint someone, didn't you anoint, yes, Kamala by what picking the person that didn't runs in the primary at all? Right? And he what scares me about that is, listen, I don't know that they anointed. I think because Joe, if you remember, did not endorse her when he when it was first and now right, So there there's definitely something going on behind the scenes. Yes, they were really hoping he'd come out and then he'd kind of undermined Obama that was getting ready to do the whole floor thing. They were hoping that Obama would come in and tell all the people in the crowd who should be the one they choose. Dude, this guy you're getting ready to play. I just I can't. Okay, So the Dems have found their leader. Possibly every week there's a new guy. Last week it was Gavin. This is this week, because this is the guy that's getting to play, and they think with his roar that men are going to start following this guy. Cut twenty one here. Don't question my integrity, don't question my motives. I'm standing for Jersey, i am standing for my police officers. I'm standing for the Constitution, and I'm standing for what's right. And Dear God, if you want to come up to me that way, you're gonna have to take it up with me because there's too much. On the line right now in America. As people's due process rights and freedom of the speech rights, and secret police are running around this country picking people up off the streets who have a legal right to be here. There's too much going on. In this country. When are we going to stand together for principles that I just heard that we're agreed with. When are we going to stand together? Okay, does anyone of the Democrats vote differently? No? But do you want to know what the who that was directed to? Yeah, it is the other dem lady that said that they were odinga a week. Yeah, that they were giving in on things that Trump likes, because someone has to be smart enough in their party to say, we keep being putting ourselves on the twenty percent side. Yes, and I'm telling you the easiest thing to make a comeback would be this following statement. I say this all the time. He's taking our ideas. We believed in all of this. He is taking our ideas, and we agree with him, and that we're going to go in the this direction, but we're not doing this means stuff. We're gonna do it a nicer way. But they don't do that because they cannot agree with him. They will not let themselves agree with him. And what's sad is, Emma, you probably aren't old enough to remember this, but Trent and I certainly are. Listen. Bill Clinton pivoted that's right absolutely. For election after he stood he was underneath the poles and nuke Gingrich essentially saved him, yes, because they gave him a balanced budget yep, and he started cracking down on crime. No one in the DEMS is smart enough to figure that out. Because the people that have leading are these ladies, sorry, Emma, that are aoc that they are. They're dumb. They just don't know how to win anymore, correct, which I think is great. Let us keep winning. Do you think they have screwed themselves with candidates like Mendannie and AOC where they've they've they've built a friend that's so powerful they can't unhinge from it. So it is awesome if you go back and the interview that I recommended was Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk says the Cuban dictator Castro, the guy Chavez in Venezuela. They don't come because of things are in order, because times are good and things are structured. They come when there's chaos. So when you look at someone like mom Donnie, you've got to be a little worried because the next thing that we should be worried about. And what he's trying to tell people is the young people are so poor they're working. Okay, I don't mean poor, and I don't mean this in a bad way, am I How many jobs are you working for? Okay? How much? Why are your eyes? Okay? Go ahead, I mean that's just kind of you were doing what Congress is doing to Charlie. Charlie is saying how many people like Emma, are having to work that much that houses housing is seven times more than what your income is, and our parents it was three times. It has progressively gotten worse over the last forty years. Today the average age of a first time home buyer is thirty eight years old. Twenty years ago it was thirty one years old. Twenty years before that, when our parents were buying their first house, it was twenty years old. He is saying, the biggest fear that we have to understand is the youth are at some point going to say that guy is keeping me from making money. And that is when you get your revolution. So that's what you've got to be worried about when the mom Donnis start getting elected, that you lose capitalism. And he's got it. Was so good, and he did it so much smarter. Not just said I'm not rolling my eyes at her working for jobs? Do you do it because you have to to pay your bills? No? And that's why half. I mean, I did same thing. I worked for jobs, but I didn't have to two of them, yes, and just nothing changed. So Emma, I think is pretty admirable. It is that you would work that much no matter what. Why. But the point being is people are and he gives this example. It's called buy now, pay later, and it's a process of and he said you can buy pizza and put and pay it in four installments, and that's happening right now. And he gave so many examples in cities that's going this is going on. So that's the fear. We're not understanding that the youth are struggling, all right, So I'm not discounting it. I'm just I'm asking when you have people that worked for Twitter, and we're not talking about one hundred, we're talking thousands, right, and they were making one hundred thousand dollars a year, most of them. I don't know. It's hard for I just I think we replace the factory jobs with these other fairy tale jobs that there aren't enough of them, no, and it created the poor, so that we have. Part of what his strategy is is stop with the social education. And you're hearing a bunch of that now is Trade School Association, trade schools schools and funding them for that type of thing, and that we have to kick out ten million illegals and build ten million homes. So it was a really good strategy and he's so smart, and I'm like, man, this has to catch on. I swear. And that's what Tucker was saying. Are people listening to you? And he said Trump does, so it's like he gets it, but Congress is not. They they say, and this is what is exactly what he says. They roll their eyes and they say, I pulled my bootstraps up. These kids had to pull their bootstraps up. And he's like, you're not getting there is an underswell of poor of the youth. And that's because he goes on all these campuses and people are these take it getting these paper degrees. Yeah, payper degree, we agree, hoping they can get a huge salary, and there isn't. It's not out there. No, I got one living it. No, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, that's we got to fix it. So anyway, back to the ladies. So do you remember the whole campaign that they ran against Trump about the women? Oh? Yes, you know that he's misogynistic. Listen to this little press clip. I'll get you to cut it off about halfway through. But what I love these are two people at a press conference talking about our country. Caitlyn than to questions for Director Gabbard. Just on this, Doctor Gobbard, you reference the past intelligence reports and assessments on this, including that twenty seventeen one that was signed off as ed noted by every Republican on the intelligence community, including the acting chair of the time now Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, who said a statement that they did not find any evidence of Russian collusion, but they did find, however, is very troubling, and they found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling. One, are you saying that he's wrong in that statement that he made then? And secondly, what would you say to people who believe that you're only releasing these documents now to improve your standing with the president after he said that your intelligence assessments were wrong. Well, first, I want to correct something that you stated, which was citing the Senate Intelligence Committee's report as being one and the same. I think you said the intelligence community, the Senate Intelligence Committee has a very different function than the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The evidence and the intelligence that has been declassified and released is irrefutable. I'm going to let Caroline speak to Secretary Rubio. I'll speak to both questions. First, on Secretary Rubio, he put out a statement in twe following that Senate Intelligence Committee report, and he said, what they found is troubling. We found irrefutable evidence of Russia meddling, which the Director of National Intelligence just confirmed for all of you that Russia was trying to sow distrust in chaos. But what's the outrage in this that Secretary Rubio did not say at the time the Democrats were saying at the time, is the fact that the intelligence community was concocting this narrative that the president colluded with the Russians, that the president's son was holding secret meetings with. The Russian and finishes here. That's what I just love is that's two ladies that listened to this. That's the woman. The woman that asked the question, was that mean what do you call her? You're just a mean one, aren't you? The white pants interviewer lady from CNN? So she's trying to do a gotcha question or gotcha question is TULSI, aren't you just doing this stuff because you want to get back in the graces of the president since he said that you didn't your intelligence wasn't right, your intelligence report. Who's that a Ran. I'm still baffled that I don't know in my lifetime, and maybe I just don't remember it, but I don't know that I've ever seen a president that puts cabinet level members because both of them were confirmed, right, that were former candidates for Democrat nominees. And I'm not talking about like we joked about Ran Paul being on the other stage, right, Yeah, No, I'm talking about front runners like RFK that's what I means lover. Yeah, And they're in his cabinet at a high level, and nobody's Everybody seems to go, oh, well, she's a trader. Like in all honesty, could you imagine Governor DeSantis being on Biden's cabinet never, right, and they discount it like, well, you're an idiot. What. I just think it's great that he's got powerful women up there that answer questions that shoot the other lady down. That's trying to spread divisiveness, which I heard something really good about and I was so glad to hear this just recently. So when we shot down Iran, or when we dropped the bombs, the bunker busters in Iran, it was the controversy was that Toulci had been in there in March saying that they had not enriched any uranium. Sure, okay, how cool was it? That is a massad? What's the name of the CIA that's part of Israel? Isn't it Massad? Is that? Am I wrong on that? Whatever? The CIA is of Israel? Oh yeah, okay, remember that. Remember when they first started, they had free rain of the air because they pulled in twenty generals in one room and blew them all away. They all came from across the country through one room and blew them all the way. Remember all the pagers that went off in people's pockets and went all the way. Okay, that's the Israeli intelligence. So what Trump is saying is he trusted Israeli's intelligence about you're enriching uranium that our intelligence doesn't know the region enough about. Correct, because we're still corrupt or intelligence? Oh yeah, you got that, Peter Schrock's of the world still working it, that's right. Yeah, So I know we have bad foreign agents internally. But that explains a lot of why she could have said what the d n I, what the intelligence groups said, and still be wrong. Yeah. Trump again made a good decision. And what I what I think about Tulsi more than anything is that I think people forget that it was Hillary Clinton that turned on her, that's called her a what a Russian agent? A Russian a Russian agent. And don't forget what made her popular in the Democrat Party was she found corruption in the DNC and outed it Debbie Washington Schultz. Yeah, and she got disbarred for it. That's right. They kicked her off the stage, correct. So she has a little action grind too, And I'm glad she's grinding it, which we all need to start grinding that they can't. They can't do what they did to Trump and raid mar A Lago and do all those things and then we have real things that they've done wrong and just let it go. Can't do that anymore. That's what made her interesting to me was her behind the scenes when she said, look, when I got there, I was put into a separate room and I was told I wasn't allowed to speak to a Republican without getting permission from Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, and she said, this isn't right, and that's when they started to throw her out of the party. Well, I'm glad, I'm hoping the twenty percenters remained twenty percenters until they started recognizing to do what's right for the country. So and then to end the show, did you have anything else coming? You want to jump into that? No, I'll glet you get to that. I saw one today that I wanted your opinion on. Did you see where Trump had appointed one of his former attorneys to a federal judge? Oh? Yeah, And the Dems are just livid. Yeah. I think to myself, every judge that was appointed by Biden or Obama was a favor. Why is this all of a sudden wrong. I don't understand the whole logic behind it. I'm more pissed that we don't have more judges confirmed exactly. Why aren't they confirming them? By the way, what takes it? What makes it so hard to confirm them? I don't get it either. Is it filibustering? No, I don't. I don't know. I mean I heard Funds say something about your we're done with your games or something. It was something to the effect whatever recess appointment is like if they are in recess, and then so the controversy is that the House or the Senate is going to have somebody hit the gavel, so they're not in recess, but nobody's there. I mean, what games are we playing? I don't know. I hope that's not what it is. I don't know enough about it, so this to end the show, dude, And I know, oh my god. Okay. So I know you're like, I know you're not wanting to see it, and I don't either, but I came across it and it was so beautiful. Man, I was like, I have to do this. I knew Emma would like this to How brave this little twelve year old girl was. She was part of the Camp Mystic group that survived. She wrote her own song to Hallelujah. And she's twelve years old and she's on Fox News. Or did you hear what? When Amesley asked her what she wanted to do for a living, No, I don't know. I don't know anything about her. I just heard her singing. It was gave me chills. Amesley asked her after she's saying, what do you want to do for a living, and she said, I just want to be a Christian singer when I grow up. And I'm just like, dude, we have a group that wants to do that now. Yeah, like that's how awesome? Yeah, it's yeah. So this is a girl that survived that horrible thing done in Texas, right, flooding. We'll see you next week. I heard there was a giant flood, but we were washed in Jesus' blood. And you don't really care for my news, do ya? On July the. Four, twenty twenty fifth, the water rose and we win and drift the baffle king composing Hallujah, halleluyah, halllluyah, halleluyah, hallllu. Yah. Our faith was strong. You showed us love like only God from up abub. Your prayers, your hugs, and your love overwhelmed us. We cried, we prayed, We did our share. You clothed us, fed us, brushed our hair, and from our lips we drew the hallelujah, hallelujah, hallllujah, halleluyah, hall hellu. Ooh yeah, they say the water overcame, but I will never forget their names, no blame, no fault, So really. It too ya. We are a part of mystic Herd. We spread his light, his love, his word. The Holy Na broke it. Holleluyah, hallelu yah, holllluyah, halleluyah, hall hellu Yeah, we did our best. We left the mark a light that shines within the dark. I told his shoot that didn't come to Folia. And even though it was and long, we stand before the Lord of Songs with nothing on time with hellujah. Halleluah, holluah, halleluah, hallelu
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