Broadcasting from Watts Creative Studios in Bedford, Virginia. You're listening to Life Liberty Happiness with your host Brian Schwie st Hi, everybody, welcome to another episode of Life Liberty Have this. I'm your host, Brian Sli live in the David Hallmaker State Farm Studios. I'd like to think her sponsors David Hallmaker and Charlene over at seeing that's business services in the studio with me today, just like every week, Trent Warner, Aunty and what are you pushing buttons? A little later on in the show, we will have Rodney Gray, who's the CEO of Zetel. We'll catch up with him in just about ten minutes or so, so stick around for that. But before we get to that this day in History, Trent, I noticed you didn't have your this day in history? Were you working hard today? Didn't get to it? Sometimes I surprise you. I see that. Well, on this day in history. In nineteen sixteen, the Easter Rising happened in Dublin, Ireland. It was an insurrection against British control. Later, the Irish Revolution was completed in nineteen twenty one and the United Kingdom relinquished its control except for just a little bit of the top northern Ireland. Ireland is still part of British control. Oh really, but yeah, I never understood that whole fight. Yeah when we were kids younger. Yeah, all right, it's the r I aral come, it doesn't happen anymore. They've the negotiations to try to It's a really weird I don't know why why they don't just give it back to them. Is Connor McGregor going to run for president? Too? Oh? Do you remember that? I mean it was seriously in the news. He was against the Prime Minister. Of course he probably beat him up. You didn't see that. He'd be great. You know what My surprise news story was, what in this day in history? If I told you that YouTube started and uploaded its first clip, what year would you have thought that was in? How long ago would you say? That was two thousand and four? Damn, I's right on the money, two thousand and five. No, my YouTube history. We've been suspended off of it enough. Yeah, I got to spend it this week, right, did we again? Yeah? And Spotify? Man, now we got kicked off Facebook. Yeah, Like, what the hell's going on? What are we doing? Wrong. Man. If you said, or I should say, what are we doing? Right? If you say these two words election and then later you say the word begins with an I, integrity, Well you just said it. We're off. We're off again. You cannot I mean, what's wrong with that? I don't get it either. We all should be striving for that, shouldn't we? Yeah? All right, anyway, on your drama, Yetta, that bumper is gonna have to be cut. We needn't do it. That's the old TikTok drama, the original. You know what I'm to say. You start off with Hell's bells. I was contemplating that might be worth the have at it Bumper. It's it's we might I think we need to cut, to make bits and pieces and make a have at it. I mean, it's the third most popular part of the show, so we need top. But what I'm saying is that bumper, I mean, it survives on its own. Maybe we maybe that could be the meme of the week, Bumper. Oh it's a good idea. Oh god, yeah that would be when that would work? You're you should be happy to know now was happy? Thirty thirty episodes are being released on Netflix. Now, oh cool, like the show thirty for thirty Yeah, which I like because I can't you can just scroll through. Yeah, now I can just pick here. Oh this, all this stuff has come full circle. Okay. My wife was in Richmond for a training thing for Clerk's Association. Okay, she said, Okay, I had to stay in a hotel and watch direct TV at night. I can now tell you it's much better to just go home and pick and what, pick what I want to watch then to have to just see what's on. So she's she's come listen. There was a long time because I got rid of direct TV, but I still get in trouble because I can't watch something on Netflix. I gotta watch the next trailer. No, I can't choose something. It's like I want to see what else the other thing, the next thing is exactly. Just watched trailers on I do. Literally I watched more longer a trailer longer than I do watch the show. All Right, I'm over two on movies lately. Okay. I mean I told you that I wasn't impressed with the I'm glad you told me to the Little Things. Yeah, I saw the trailer on it, and I was like, hey, Brian said, this was not good. I'm we didn't do it, and it's a didn't Washington. It has to be good, but it wasn't. This one not so fast one watch everybody knows the rules. The Gambler was not good. They had Mark Mark and John Goodman, right John, Yes, I'm telling you not good at all. No, my taste is probably different from those. But I'm telling you it's not worth it be production Like, no, it wasn't the production. The storyline makes no sense at all. Like it. It's one of those movies that it's probably for smart people. Maybe they get it, but it's like so, I'll let you know next week, Woody, all right, please watch it real, but you get one. You'll see smart people. I might have to what do wann't you watch it? Let me know if it's worth me watching. Yeah, first of all, hold on before we go any further. Here's breaking news. Oh Woody has never seen you ready for this? What ab I not do? Sopranos? I should be fired immediately. That's worse than me Game of Thrones. It's you owe us now. I watched Game of Thrones because of you partially. Yeah, yeah, you're we but I will say this, Prince of ours, I said the same thing, and they got into maybe the third episode and they just said it was boring. What they just the sopranos. They couldn't get into it. That's one of those when somebody asked me, I'm embarrassed to say I have it, though I say I consider dropping them as friends. I'm out. It's still number one for me on my list of do you have any recommendations from drama? Yeah, okay, so we finished Ripley. You know that was the brad the you know what, Ripley is probably worth watching if you want to be bored that I hate. I hate when they have eight episodes and they could have made it four. Yes, like yes, I mean it's like they tried to make something and cinematographer fragget cinemagraphic cinematography, well something like that, Like they were really trying hard to make it. So you know, I bet what he would love it, not because because of the cinematography, he would have loved it. Like we just got kicked off the app like they showed the guy, they show him like taking his knuckles and you know what I mean. And it's like with music and stuff. Correct, just get on with the death. Like those scenes were pretty good, so I'd say it's it's worth watching, but I wouldn't say it's a winner. But do not get fooled by what's been number one for a week. Do not do it. I could have told you that, how did you know the marketing for it? Like, and I started reading because the market is really good for it. Yes, that's how. And then after you actually read about it and two of the stories about you're like, nah, no, I'm good. No, that's how we got hooked. Like, I'm the guy packaging package packaging gets me right on the way out the store, I'm going to buy something one of those guys. And the trailer it's a big giant woman who is stalking this relatively good looking guy. So I think it's great. And then, dude, I'm telling you they do this on purpose. You mentioned thirty for thirty, Yes, Reggie White, Yeah, okay. When you watch the thirty for thirty with Reggie White, the first hour is fantastic. The second hour they've hooked you because it's so good. The second hour is nothing but transvestites. His religious thinking how bad it is. They just spent the next hour beating him up, and I was like, man, I did not sign up for this. But they do the same thing with baby Reindeer or whatever I want. Don't do it all right? The second episode will make you hurl. Okay, you're listening Life Live to happen. It's on to sports. It's time for sports. Uh Talladega? What's this past weekend? Do you so now that you've done it like we did Talladega a couple of years ago, now do you watch it differently? I too? Yeah, Like I'm like, oh, I know what goes on in that on that area over there? Yeah? Like it? Yeah, I mean it's a totally different watching experience. So we didn't mention at have at it. Today. We've got Taylor Panell, yes, coming up from TikTok. Yeah. Right, and that's in your top ten too, right, yes? Yeah, our top ten today is TikTok stars like celebrities. And so Tyler Panell does the NASCAR one correct each week and he did going Out today, yep. And we talk about Talladega with him today. But what do you think of the race? H couldn't stand parts of it this, I mean, I don't subscribe to watch NASCAR, if you're going to go half the rottle. It was horrible. That's I mean, we're at the fastest speedway. Why are we going It looked like they were filming a movie. Yeah, it was. You know, you know how they had the cars situated in a movie and you go around and they show it. But you know, obviously in the movie it makes them look like they're racing, but really they're just staying in the same position all the way around the track. Yeah, that's the way almost half the race was. Yeah. Could you imagine if Zetel and all the other companies got together just throttled down their internet and kept it all one speed for a while. That's what this was. They literally just laid one of them decided to go slower. So they all decided to go slower. And I'm like, this is horrible. So if we have time today, I've got the tyler who's on the show later today. He posted the interview with Kyle Busch. Have you seen it about how about after Talladega? It's worth listening? All right? Yeah, all right? So the big deal was what he coming to the end near the end, there was a pack of four or five cars and one of them. It was an accident, and it was Eric Jones, whom I like a lot man. When he hit the wall, he hit it with such force that I'm like, Trent, I was actually kind of worried that Fox wasn't covering it the way you would normally cover a wreck. Right. My first impression was his net isn't coming down? Correct, that's the thing I thought exactly what I thought, how long is it gonna take? But then the next time they showed him, the net was coming off, and I was like, okay, well he must be okay, all right. So what's great about the Internet is they have better coverage than Fox. Like literally, there's a clip and Trent had told me about it. Listen to this is cut one, play cut one. This now this is his audio live when he got it wrecked. Yeah, go ahead, cut one. I don't on the right. Get the ambulance Therelly, let him know that's here. Yeah. What's wild is in the race. When you watch it, he interviews he's standing up outside the hospital, the in care center, and they interview him and he's like normal, And I was like, I cannot believe he's not even been over and he just answers everything like normal. Yeah, everything's good. We shouldn't have wrecked, you know, you know, just the same old answer you always get. But then yes, he ended up back in the hospital that night. He has a fractured spine. Yeah, they didn't catch that before, and he's and he got up and it just seems like it'd be something they would catch before you go out and do an interview. Tough as nails. Yeah, that is tough. But what's crazy is how does how does Fox not show the end car camera for that? Or they had all kinds of auto you know, they're doing the clips now kind of like Formula one yep, where they're showing the clips like and at least they're transcribing it now because for years you can't tell what they're saying, so they're at least writing it out now after they someone's taken it and written it. But they didn't show anything on that. You ever thought that was just a normal spin? Yeah, No, it was nasty, But congratulations taler Redick. He went on to win and it was kind of cool. Michael Jordan was in victory lane. The car was freaking awesome. Yes, car looked awesome. Whenever they do that Michael Jordan logo on the side of it was really cool. Yes, so that was cool. In the interview that they did with Michael Jordan was amazing. Yeah, so good for good for them on that f one. The head is off this week, but they will return next week in Miami. Are we going? Did you get two? No? Hey, I bet I could get Zeidems private jet. Oh my gosh, that would be fantastic. Well, we'll see if we can't get that done in the next segment here I want I mean, we don't have to be on the start finished line now, just where the boats are. Just get get a boat. Yeah, we'll just hang out there. Yeah. Better, I'm fine with it. Uh. NASCAR's off to Dover this week. So that's the track I always want. I think it should be better than it, Yeah, because it kind of built it to like to be like a Bristol. Yeah, but it just doesn't have the same action the Bristol does. Well, hope hopefully's got They've got a cool logo. What he would like that if he just paid like a giant monster? Yeah, is this the Monster Mile? It's concrete and it's like a concrete monster and he's holding a race car and he stands about, you know, twenty five feet tall. It's got a car in his hands. NBA playoffs quickly, Lebron James. The Lakers are down two to didn't yep? Glad to see that? Look like a pretty good game. That's like, oh, it's a great game. And man, shoot, I forget the guy's name hit the winning shot Murray Murray. Yeah, what a shot. Like I'm so tired of people. Sometimes you just have to say what a great player. Yeah to hit that kind of shot in that moment, But no, we have to put all the focus on the officials were terrible. Yeah, it's like, yeah, okay, whatever. What do you think that series goes? I think Denver sweeps them? Oh you do? Yeah? You don't think LA is going to at least win? Why they made because this is their tenth win in a row against the Lakers. Did you know that? Oh no, they're ten and zero against the Lakers. Wow, Lakers are due. You think they get they'll get one? I hope, So I'll just keep it going. But man, I love watching Jo Kichen. He's so good. He is terrific. Yeah, all right, that is sports, and sports is brought to you by CNS Business Services. CNS Business Services is your local place get professional services, payroll, bookkeeping, taxes, notary and QuickBooks. 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We went to we we we drove down to Florida, I mean to Atlanta to spend the weekend with my uncle and then drove over to Talladega to watch the race. And just like you guys said, the first two stages were boring as could be. Where where Where'd you say? We set right at the dog leg exit, right just before the start finish line. Yeah, and we were about halfway up, so we got a good view. We could just not see the backstretch, which was just where those two wrecks were at, but the and wreck because my guy ended up going from twenty ninth to tenth right there in the right in front of me for the last lap, So I was who was that Harrison Burton, But not really the driver, it's the team, the Wood Brothers. My dad is still classic too. Yeah, my dad and my uncle worked for the Wood Brothers. Oh wow, in the pit crew back in the seventies and eighties. And this was my first trip to Talladega, although my mom tells me, I've you've been to all the tracks, and like, well, I was four or three and I don't really remember. That was that Stewart Virginia Stuart were down to Patrick County. Yeah, we've been to the museum and there's tons and tons of pictures. My dad back in the old David Pearson Neil Bonnet day. So my brothers and I grew up racy. Do you think anybody in those days just drafted with each other and went fifttle, no run right over if you put fifty throttle in twenty miles an hour slower, just going around and around a different Yeah, we got those tickets thinking, oh we're right outside the dog leg here to start finish line. We're going to see some action. Yeah, it was just the first two stages were just now. My last lap was the last lap was pretty crazy. Corela Joy? Did you get to see did you know what he was up on his side? Could you ask that? Yes? I didn't see it because I was trying to focus on Harrison to see, oh my god, did he make it through? Is he going to get there? And I'm focusing on him because it's all you know, being live at any rate, and even on the super speedways. It just happened, So yes, yes, you can't see anything. So I did see the part where Coryla Joy spun out in the water coming out of the pits. It was right in front of us. He hit the puddle of water and the next caution they have the jet drivers down there, and I'm sure Corlod Joy's going, why couldn't you do that twenty laps ago? So we had a great time. It's a easy drive in and out of that track and it is a town, nothing there, highway and nothing around you. This is a guy name that shoot, I forgot his name now, the one that was leading at the end of Now, no, at the very beginning, well, Mike Wadala said on the pole he led the race and then this was midway. This was just before the end of the first segment there. Oh, you're the guy that you put money on. Yeah, yeah, seventy eight the black car on it. I don't know why I'm missing his name now, but it's not Brendan Gone, is it. Anyway? Anyway, he's leading the race. He's not supposed to be up there, and of course he didn't get the memo that everybody else was half throttle, which is why he ran out of gas. But I had just put five dollars on him on FanDuel and literally two laps later he ends up hitting the outside wall and because he runs out of gas, and I'm telling him now it was five dollars. If he had won somehow, which anybody can win talladata. Yeah, it was a eleven payoff, so it was worth a bet. But if he ever finds out that I'm the one that jinks J J. McLeod, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what that's my brother says, he says, every driver that he roots for that's not here, Well, Henny roots for Harrison with the wood Brothers, they wreck, and then any other driver he says, Well, you know what, I'm gonna go for Daniel Sorez today. He'll wreck, you know, So whoever he picks, And that's that's exactly the way it is. All right. Well, let's dive into zi tail here a little bit before Before you get to zi Tel, where where you raised? Where are you born? So I'm born and raised right here in Bedford County. My parents still live in Jordantown, right on Jordantown Road there in Steorgesville, went to Steorge Elementary, I went to graduate from Stanton River, moving back here where I lived in Roanooke over on the Cape spring Side for twenty years. And my wife and I are building a house in Goodview, Oh and where living with my parents right now, which is you know, we were in an apartment and the apartment prices and rent are just sky and we were ready to renew the lease and they wanted it. I was like, you know, Mom, the basement looks very appealing right now, So we're staying with her living right over on Jordantown Road, right in the middle of the zy tail footprint. Perfect. So all right, So tell me how how did zytel come about the company? So Zeitel started in twenty seventeen and our president CEO of Brandon Camden, who I worked with him running a company called Strategic Global Networking Group. We were an IT consulting company that filled that niche of companies that are too big to have a relative come in and do their IT work on a Saturday, but still too small to hire that one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars year IT person. So we were doing that. We're all IT computer nerds. That's what we did by trade, is what I've done for twenty some years. He built the house in Menita and one of the bigger cable providers wanted some astronomical dollar figure to put co X you know, cable TV t on his driveway. And he was like for that amount of money, we may as well just put fiber in the whole neighborhood. So we did, and he started Zytel. We went after some tobacco grants back with the whole tobacco grant thing. R Jr. Back in the day didn't win those. And then we were building slowly, you know, and making moves and trying to develop what Zytel would become. And then COVID hit and that hit us hard from the IT consulting side. But one of the nice things was a picture came out in the Bedford Bulletin where they had closed the schools down, and it showed all the kids sitting around a folding table with a you know, tailgating canopy over them and you know, snotting those little kids and then you know, cold weathers sitting shoulder to shoulder and college aged kids lined up against the brick wall, all just to get on the WiFi outside of one of the local libraries. Yea. And that picture kind of it made people think, and I think the rest of the country thought like that, and they're like, you know, internet should be that essential utility, just like water, electric and gas, and sure it's one of the few things that I think that the governments, the federal government the local governments did. They were like, we can they could have you know, socialized it or regulated it to the hilt like they do the power companies and stuff, or or even brought in you know, but they didn't. They wanted to invest in local companies and in the big national companies and set up grants and subsidies that we can use to build in the rural areas. So we got a grant through Bedford County and then another one through the state of Virginia to put where we ended up putting five hundred At the end of the project in March twenty twenty five, we'll have over five hundred and fifty miles of in Bedford County. Wow, that's awesome for a local company. So it's amazing roughly how many employees now, So right now we're employing I think the last count twenty eight twenty nine organic employees into our building. So most of those are construction outside plant construction or splicing of fiber and putting the fiber into One of the things we do a little differently than the bigger companies. We put our own fiber in the ground. We run the construction side of the business. We don't subcontract. We do subcontract some out, but we don't do as much as some of our competitors who that's all they do is subcontract out the construction and the engineering. We do a lot of that in house. So what are your future plans? Obviously we've seen some of it in the news about possibly body camp. What is your what is your future plans for expansion? So right now, where our expansion is on as much fiber as we can get in the ground as fast as we get it in were we're applying for grants and subsidies in both Franklin County not knock on wood, we'll get those. In Carroll County are a big one. We're expanding some southward towards North Carolina. But one of the things we've noticed is that our growth over the next five years is going to extremely outpace the space that we're in. Our headquarters is in downtown Menita right there off of one twenty two, and we're definitely going to bust at the seams on that. And so the opportunity came up. Bedford County put out an RFP, I think it was back November of last year for Body Camp Elementary that have been sitting empty for ten years and falling apart. And if any of you have been down four to sixty and seeing the old Montvale Elementary School, the gymnasing floor's falling in, the roof's falling in. It's just it's a drain on county resources and nobody can get and do anything with it. So we had the opportunity to put a bid in on Body Camp Elementary and we won the bid, and so we entered into what we call a due diligence period where it's not really the county. It's not like they're immediately going to sell the building. We wanted to go into the building and have access to it, bring inspectors in, make sure it's not going to cost ten million dollars to that we get in there and that floor is not going to fall out. Yeah, So we've had over the past three months, we've had people inspecting the roof, the boiler system, the walls, the septic make sure there's nobody's bestus in the building. This building was built in the fifties and sixties. Checking out the gymnasium. All of our employees are super excited about the fact that we may have a gymnasium in our corporate head quarters. So working to get some conceptual designs and conceptual art done of what we can see the building morphing into. So that we've closed that due diligence period and put the ball back in the county's core, and now what they need to do is up to them. I think there's some I can't really you know, really know what the county, what their process is. That there's some public hearings that have to happen before and get input from the general public, and really we want to get out there and tell everybody what we're doing and what our plans are for the building. No, it's perfect a similar situation here. That's how the studio came about. In the other buildings, this used to be the Town of Bedford's utility public works and it had been vacant for thirty years, and we had to go through the same process to purchase the buildings. And like you said, you go through a due diligence process, you go through public hearings, and there was some pushback from certain people in the community, which I think comes with the territory. But the point of it is you've taken a vacant property and you're investing funds in it, and you're making it a vibrant, you know, part of the community. Now not to mention that revenue for the county, and that's definitely one of the things we want to make everybody aware of. We're not going to turn this into some you know, private company that's off limits to the public, and we really want to become part of the community. This is right where we want to be. This is right where we're all from. These are our friends or neighbors or relatives. We all live here in Bedford County. It's not like, you know, the building won't be open to the general public. We have plans that are you know, you know, plans are fluid. They have to be fluid with a project like this, But we want to partner with the community. I notice they have a sign up that they do a Trump retreat there every year. We'll still gladly host the body Camp Trunk Retreat and we'll have a table set up, provide free Wi Fi for internet, and pass out a ton of candy. By the way, there are your customers. And I would imagine body Camp is the heart of the county, right it's central location, right in the center, and you want to go and you you're trying to spread your tentacles. M that's a that's a great spot for you to run to customers. And we have we have great plans. We're gonna we're gonna keep the gymnasium open. We've got quotes and bids out there to refinish the gymnasium floor, keep it a gymnasium. Some of our employees have started talked about starting an AAU league. We'll let parks and recks still come in there and use it. We're gonna convert one of the classrooms that attach the gymnasium into a fitness center, and the two bathrooms that are attached to the gymnasium tournament to actual men's and women's locker rooms. H you know, have that available to the community if they want to use it or sign up to use it. And we're we're talking about some of the four classrooms down on the end towards the gymnasium side, we'll we'll have that space day classroom type space and lease that space out to some adult education type training facilities. Example, we'd put some telephone poles up in the back and sponsor certification courses to come in to teach people and get them certified to climb poles, to gaff poles and work in the electric space. It's a great field helps us because that's what we do when we put fiber on the telephone poles. But they don't have to work for us. They can get that certification and go to work for AAP south Side Bedford Electric, Bedford Electric. You know. So we've got you know, and we want to get community input. We want to hear from the community about what they would like to see. You know, there are aspects of the building that we want that will be our corporate headquarters and research center, and you know, we've talked about putting a data center in there and hosting a microcosm of what AWS does, but right here in Bedford County, you know, and in five years we project we could have thirty forty to fifty high pain high tech jobs that you don't have to go to n Lynchburport. They're right there in Body Camp. And and we all the money that we'll invest in this building, it'll be invested locally, you know, local contractors that we get local people in Bedford County. So we're spending our money to renovate this building and get it, you know, back up to worth a lot of money and money that we'll be paying, you know, worth money that we'll be putting into tax coffers. That's awesome. So what are the I'm curious in the Internet side there, what are some of the biggest obstacles that you find. I would imagine technology is changing so rapidly. How does Zetel keep up with some of those challenges? So lots of research. But one of the nice things about fiber is that fiber that we put in the ground is literally the same fiber that was put in the ground back in the seventies and eighty when NASA invented fiber optic cable. Okay, it's there's not much difference in it. More strands, tighter spun, different things like that, but it's the same fiber. The speeds of fiber opticals able, the top end of that has yet to be achieved. They're still lab testing things in Switzerland or wherever they do those crazy tests. And what he does back there right now, pushing buttons right now, it's work faster you know, develop They can't develop electronics fast enough. And then the point is they keep the electronics cool. They can transmit as much data across that fiber as they can push it haven't found the top end yet, whereas all this copper that's in the ground from the nineteen fifties and earlier, that copper is it's met its max. They cannot get any more speeds out of it, you know. So that's the nice thing for us. The challenges is we'd have to do a lot of research and the electronics that are on the in either end of that fiber, we have to make sure we stay on top of the game where we're researching right now. To switch over what they call xgspawn. Xgspawn is the ten gig so residential Internet at ten gig speeds, which is you know, I look back at my computer world and think, oh my god, I had a full mag of Internet. Never need anything faster than that. Now we're talking about ten gig speeds up and down. It's similar to TV, right, Yeah, I see something that was produced in two thousand and I think, how did we even watch it? Like you could barely see the graphics, But even then it was great now. Like if you watch Terminator now, when I was a kid, I thought Terminator was like the coolest thing. Ever, how do they do that? Now? You watch it and like you watch it with one of your kids, and they're like, really, right, you thought this was cool exactly. So I would imagine in your world, speed is everything? Right? Is that? And that? You know, what's vital that people don't understand is the economic development side of it. Having Zetel, a local company that's providing this service allows municipalities like Bedford County, the Town of Bedford to attract business because the very first question that is asked is what is your Internet capability? Oh that's why they You know, some of the industri parks that are out there, they advertise them as what they call giga parks. Yes, it's advertises a giga park because that's the number one people What type of Internet can I get in this in this community and or in this industrial complex or in this business park or where you want to And so even for just residential home sales. I know me personally, I'm gonna you know, when we sold our house in Cave Spring and decided to move back to Bedford County, I was like, well, I'm not going to buy land out in the absolute middle of nowhere, so I've got to build fiber just to get myself Internet. I'm going to make sure I'm within my footprint or within somebody else's footprint where I buy to build my house, so that I because it's realtors will tell you. And when we tell that to customers that we talk to, you know, getting the fiber run to your house, you know it's going to increase the value of your home because now you have the capabilities that it's open to market, a much larger market for you to to potentially purchase your house. That business comes in and everything. You both might be able to answer this because I don't know, but when you do, when you're laying out of a development, Yeah, I mean, is is internet something that you How does that work? Rodney? I'm I'm an engineer. I designed subdivisions that type of thing. So no, actually, we well, I mean honestly, all we do is water and sewer if there is sewer available. But there's the only thing we do is a fifteen foot public utility isn't and we just know that power and cable and telephone would get put into that easeman. We'd never think about fiber optic and how we get that to what what's what's the difference in speed? And I'm I don't mean to sound ignorant, and if you laugh at me, I'm sorry, but what's the difference between a fiber optic line service for cable or for the Internet versus Exfinity or a Comcast or you know, like a traditional cable Internet. So the co X, the Coex systems they're gonna, you know, do use what they call DOCS is three point one modem for the Cape, for the for the Copper Cap and there's just limitations, there's limitations about the band with then produced. And right now you can get a gig circuit from one of those Cox cable providers, but it's a gig download and you're maxed out at twenty five minute upload. There's been advertisements and all the talks from all the cable viders. All we've got DOCS is four point zero. Come in DOCS is four. But it's it's in my opinion, it's just it's it's a pipe dream. This is never gonna work. Fiber is the only future to Internet that's gonna last, you know, fiber we put in the grounds got a lifespan of about fifty years, and we have to talk, you know, then we have to work towards replacing it just because of degradation. Yeah, but the copper, it just has. It's all about the limitations for the speed that you're gonna get. And so because of those limitations for speed, you see things because everybody's realizing it. Before it was like how fast can I download the latest video game? How fast can I download this? And all this? But now as we transition and everybody realized from the pandemic that people can work from home, they can tell a commute and they can be just as productive. Yeah, and that upload speed with your zoom meetings, you're passing data back and forth from work, all the kids that are taking online classes down work from home. That upload speed is just as important as your download speed. That matters. Yeah. And the only place you're going to get a synchronous circuit is with a fiber connection. All right. I got a big question because I've always often wondered this. You hear stories, you never know what's true and what's not true. So when it comes to internet and you've got internet and everything, seems to be working fine, and then all of a sudden it starts to get slow and you hear people say, well, they throttle it down. I mean, does that actually happen in the world. Yes, oh, I'm getting it. But it happens based on what your usage is. And it's one of the things that I tell it doesn't have. We don't have data caps. You get throttled down based on your data cap and it's all about the network size and how much bandwidth they can provide to your area. And that's why they put you on a data cap. So if you're downloading too much and you get that that you hit that data cap for the month, you get throttled down, especially in the cellular network. The cellular network is big in that that the Cox cable. I know. I was a Cox customer when I lived in Roanoke and they didn't really You just got like an ast little email and you always thought it seems slower, but they said, we don't throttle you, and we're if you keep continue this trend of downloading too much, we're going to charge you. I and and I never got charged, but I didn't, you know, download a ton of content off the Internet to download it and get it down on my computer. So, and streaming TV. When I was in Roe Oak, streaming was just still kind of taken off. We still had Cox Cable TV. Yeah. So, but that's one thing we have no data caps. Was I tell you can download, as I tell our customers we sign up, you can download the entire contents the Library of Congress and watch every Netflix show, including the Sopranos. I can't believe that. I know, Rodney, you mentioned earlier and I loved it. Was before we went on air you mentioned about and you just said it earlier too. And by Camp is in the middle part of the county. But you could pull talent unheard of from Lynchburg and Roanoke. It'd be Bedford pulling talent. Oh too, a place to go to work in the middle of Bedford County. Look at look at Redmond, Washington, for example. It was in nowhere Bristol, Connecticut for ESPN, esp and Bristol. Nobody thought Bristol was a big talent exactly. Microsoft came in and put their campus in Redmond. And now you look at the statistics. More people commute out of Seattle to Redmond or out of the bigger cities into Redmond than vice versa. Wow. So I'm not saying we're Microsoft and we're not gonna, you know, even if we're one tenth of one percent of what they could bring. But if you are, we are going to private jet till G six just so you know, we'd like to be in max for staffens. But yeah, I mean, even if we can get you know, having a base business like ours, having a core campus business that's going to bring in talent, in people, we've got to eat lunch, you know, we've gotta we've got to go, and we've got to run out, run out to the you know, most people pick a doctor or a dentist based on where they're working because they can run out there during their lunch hour, and that brings that economic development and the growth to an area that well, that that you're not going to get when you have a resource like this, it's just either going to sit empty or become something that's not profitable or beneficial to the entire community as a in general. I hate to sound ignorant, but we've talked about you coming on last week and you had said something about a controversy. This sounds like how could there be any controversy at all about the well And it's fantastic. Just like whenever you're doing things, you're again, the RFP was put out, they answered the rf P, and then you get a phase where you're working with in this case, I tell, and then there gets to be people that want to stir the pot. Yeah, will I look at it. And so there's a step group that doesn't want to see this and they would rather have it be a community center for the community. I know Rodney's not going to say anything, but I guarantee you there's twelve bumper stickers on the back of one of those superheros. I'm just saying. Fascinating, right, listen, and always you're right, but it's always people want something, you know. This was the same thing with this building. We had the same problem. They didn't want you know. Luckily the town did the RFP properly, which is you know, they said, it's not going to be based off price, it's going to be based off who's going to bring a tax base and renovate and make the space, you know, relevant, because they didn't want because somebody can come in and buy it and make it storage, right, Yeah, or just leave it vacant, and so it's not just a price thing. You want to know what are you going to do with it? And you've got phenomenal plans with it and having someone come in later on. You know, it sounds good to the post, but just understand you've got a lot of time and effort investment into this. We have. We've we've put you know, ninety days in and out with quotes and stuff, and almost all Bedford County vendors, Bedford County contractors, Bedford County personnel, our engineers right here in downtown Bedford are excavator contractor that we're going to use is right based out of Goodview. That's who we want to use. All the money we're going to spend to renovate this building are going to go back into Bedford County and Bedford County businesses and all of our friends and neighbors that live here. Whereas you let a nonprofit take possession of this building and they build a community center using federal grant dollars, those federal grant dollars come with a lot of strings. Sure, so the cost to renovate this building that we have developed, which could be anywhere from about a half a million to you know, half a million dollars. It could now be one point five one point six million dollars to cost to build. And you're going to have all the vendors that are federal government approved that have to come out of culpeper or fatbacks wherever to come here and work in Bedford County to get this done. And then it's the operational expense to keep it running. We have private dollars, we have revenue coming in from the community, and we will employ the community members and we'll keep this building running every year, and nonprofits are going to have to go back to the government coffers every year for those operational expenses. Here's an example. The boilers in this building which are still functional. The heat in this building has a ten thousand gallon diesel fuel tank attached to these boilers. They estimated that I would go through two tanks of diesel fuel for one winter to use the boilers to that's ten thousand, three dollars and fifty cents a gallon for all road diesel. Yeah, that's a lot of money to heat the building. So we you know, we were going down there, there's hot avenues that people don't talk about. So you know, as we can flag Brad next time it comes by on the train, and you know, and and and the contract, like you're talking earlier people. We may have shot ourselves in the foot with that, because we are in dire need of space for our equipment, our trucks and everybody. The rumor mills started, and we have a company policy we don't respond to internet comments, good or bad. We don't get into I don't let my employees do it. My wife keeps me from doing it. To jump in there and start answering comments on Facebook, and you just want to I'm not that guy, and she's My wife looks at me and says, don't put your phone down comment and I don't. But we needed a place to park equipment and trucks and the counties, and I went to the county and said, hey, can can we lease the parking lot and and and and use the parking lot and and park equipment over there while we're going through this due diligence period And if if it doesn't go through and you don't sell it to us, the least will expire and we'll leave and go down, you know, Avenue B and they're like sure, and then so all of a sudden, our trucks just immediately started showing up front. Our equipment was parked there. Indy's what's going on? What's going on? And nobody had said anything, and so everybody just started, let's make assumptions. Yeah, and I was in the marine, so we all know what they say about it assume. So no, Well, look, we appreciate you coming in and we love the work that you do in the community. For those who don't know's I Tel was a major sponsor that allowed growth stra at FM sports to start. Yeah, I mean we started from nothing and we were able to do sports out at Liberty High School and we want to keep expanding that footprint. So we thank you for what you do in the community and bringing economic development to the community as well. Before you go, we got to put you on the spot like we do all our guests. Oh no, what he didn't want me about that disclaimer. You get to choose one person. It can be somebody current or in history. But if you got one day with that one person, who's the person and where are you going and spending the day with them? Ronald Reagan it's one of our tops. There you go and cool. We're going to San Francisco, current day, San Francisco. I want him to see what it's become. Yeah, what his hometown's and home area of California. I want to see what he has. It's a great answer, man, that's perfect. Well, again, thank you for coming in the studio and hanging out with us. Good luck to you, and we'll keep keep everybody updated on this process. Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. Yeah, man, thanks for giving the service to people. Rodney Gray interview was brought to you by Steve Harm. When you reliable insurance, you should look at your local State Farm agent. That agent is David Homemaker. He has been a longtime supporter of Life, Liberty, Happiness and my agent Home Auto and even life insurance. He can take care of your needs. Nobody likes having to pay for something you may never use, but when you do need it, you want to make sure you have somebody who can deliver. That is David Homemaker and State Farm. Their friendly staff have over fifty plus years of combined experience. Call him today at five to four h five eight six, eight, one nine four or stopped by their office next to Arby's all four sixteen, like could be David David. All right, everybody, welcome back to the program. Uh, good to do. I found this interesting clip, Trent. I thought you would be interested in this awesome interview by a Oh yeah, no, that's awesome. That's fun. This is something I found. I think it goes back to Ronald Reagan. It is a montage, if you want to call it, that every president sends him what their worth is going into it and what they're the worth is after being president. Okay, this is a great clip. It's about a minute long. Can't wait to hear it. The real cut to the list of the last six presidents, comparing their networth before and after their time in office. At number six, you have Ronald Reagan, who was worth around ten million dollars before taking office, and then about fifteen million dollars after. Next, you have George hw Bush, who was worth around four million dollars before and then twenty three million dollars after. Then you have Bill Clinton, who came into office being worth around one point three million dollars, but he left the White House with a stunning two hundred and forty one point five million dollar networks. Next, you have George W. Bush, who came into office being worth around twenty four million dollars and then left office being worth around forty million dollars. Then you have Barack Obama, who was worth around one point three million dollars before and he left office with a networth of around seventy million dollars. And the lastly, you have Donald Trump, who came into office with a networth of around three point seven billion dollars but left with a networth of around two point five billion dollars. Now, let me ask you, out of all those presidents, why do you think President Trump was the only one to actually lose money while serving in the White House. That's wild interesting, isn't it. Yeah, look, out of all the ones we've known, we've always considered the Clintons to be the most corrupt, right disgusting. I mean, if anybody listens to that, you go, wait a minute, Yeah, he didn't have a job and she didn't have a job. People forget about this, woody. They are government employees, but at that particular time, the amount of money that they're making is what two hundred and fifty thousand, Right, how do you go yeah, how do you get I mean, nobody asked those questions. Dude. I saw a clip that said, we care about investigating and auditing a man who made his money as a private real estate guy. Yes, and we want to audit him and we put his taxes out, But we don't audit the guy that is getting money from China. No one even asks for his times. The best was the Democrats did an investigation and produced a report of foreign money that Trump got. Right. Well, one of the smart smart asses said to one of the Republican congressmen, read the report right like being a smartass. Well, the next time they have a hearing, he brings it up. He goes, hey, I took your advice and I read the report. And people need to know the foreign aid that you're talking about that he got from foreign leaders. You know this. I'm guessing, but I don't want to instand. This will drive you nuts. Oh god, they took a building that Donald Trump built beside the World Trade Center in New York City, right, yep? So where are you foreign leaders going to live in that building? Right when they come here? Yeah, So there's your foreign aid that he got from foreign leaders. It is purchase you know, a condominium, the lease space in it. They even included the revenue, like the profit and revenues from it and maintenance dues. Yeah. That and part of that that I recall was, you know, like the Trump hotels. Yeah, if it was a foreign dignitary, that state of the Trump hotel, they called that money from ford foreign Yeah for leaders. Yeah, but you're talking about stuff that has been going on since two thousand and four. Let me ask you this. It wasn't someone from a natural gas company. No, in Ukraine. That's what was great about this congressman. He gets into it with Raskins. Yeah, and he says, hey, at least you know where the money came from. And the dude had a business. He provided a service. What service did Hunter provide? Yeah, we would just like to know that answer. You know. One of the things I read and if you can get on the Epic Times, they have the best conservative writing news articles. They're really in depths. It's a really long it's like the old school kind of newspaper. It's called the Epic Times, and I get a lot of my news information from them. They wrote an article about uh, Donald Trump, the the moneies that he made and where he got it from versus not knowing a damn thing, or where Biden gets any of his money from. Right, you have no idea. There's just not a It's like it's like you can't even account you. Donald Trump was a businessman. He reported his taxes. Did he ever has has anybody ever taken him to jail for tax evasion? Like even all these these lawsuit cities in there, they're actually he paid back any of those things that he was, yes, get borrowing money for, it wasn't evading. I know what gets me is, I don't know if you noticed in the trial that he's going through, now what he The first person on the witness stand for the prosecution was a tabloid writer. That's supposedly Trump. Well, I mean I think it's true that they paid him to hide stories that were possibly bad, right, yeah. Yeah. Now the question that I have is, wait a minute, were these stories that you were going to run on tabloid and they paid you not to run it or were they paying you to find stories and hide them? Either way, that's what you're testifying too. That's what all campaigns do. By the way, there's nothing illegal about that. Yeah. The problem with this. That I wanted to know is, Hey, if you hit so many stories, what are the stories? Well, you're up there testifying. What are these stories that you're supposedly hiding? Yeah, because you and I both know if there was one ounce of cheating or law being broke, they would have founded on this dude years. I got two words for you, George Stephanopoulos, exactly. The dude was Clinton's uh duck. I mean he actually went out and he you know, berated any woman that did anything and paid journalists not to report things exactly, and we didn't do anything to the Clintons. What about a fake dossier? Like what I mean, what what about that? Like? We're talking about stories here. I'm telling you, man, I'm crazy ahead of all the cheating that's going to go on. I just hope people are so sick of this that they go to the polls in droves. I hope so too, man, I hope. So now to the best part of the show, Second Life, Liberty, Happiness eighty. Come on, man, it's Brian sly T. Truth over facts. Could three imagine what we can do next four more years? What did he say? Four more years? Pause? Because that's what the tea. Pause. Imagine what we can do next four more years? God, what are we doing at this stage? Man, it's embarrassed. God, We've we've gotten where we've gotten it. He even paused and then said pause, like Okay, I'm doing it, but I gotta say it. Come on, Man, is horrible. God, please help us getting in trouble. It was like his first year in office. He did the same thing, right, he read at the end of it. It was something that he read he wasn't supposed to read. Man, I got a quick story, and it's a horrible story. It'll get us kicked off everything, But it's so funny. It reminded me of this. So at the campground that we go to all the time, would he there is a gentleman there that doesn't have arms. Okay, I'm just telling you, of course. So he drives his golf cart with his feet everything. It's so we're driving by his campground. Yeah, and I waved, oh my god, what are you doing? Try't I mean, come on, I didn't think about it, and you're driving down a campground. What do you do every at every camp I know I would have done the same thing. And do he flip his feet up and said what do you do? And I was like, I don't you know? I said, I don't even know his name or something like that. The reggae goes his name is Paul. I thought she was joking like Paul. Oh, like p Aw. I'm like, what are you doing? And man, She's like no, it says it on the sign and I'm looking at say Paul, Oh my god, but yes, that's I don't know. It made me think when he said pause, which because she was like, paw, anyway you think of that. There was one. It's an old office that I went to. I went into. Do you remember do you know the muse the coffee shop that's in win hers A Muse. Yes, they're great people. Man, I assume they're stilling it. But this was fifteen years ago. There was a license plate out front. I went out of my office to take a little break. It was going to go in and get a cup of coffee and it said twelve inches, thanks buddy, and that'd be one. I go in and I'm like, I wonder which guy would have that? Of course you stole my thunder that. The guy gets up and he walked. He has one leg that's one foot. That's what it was. Twelve inches one foot. He's the driver of that car. Oh, that's funny, though, it was great. That's really good. Witty, yeah, witty witty. It wasn't his woody we were talking about it. It was that right, not that I was looking for the guy that might have twelve inches. I find him where if he wants coffee like a grande on me, sir. Oh that's awesome. Oh my god, thank you for joining us for our number one. Stick around for our number two. Well, it would be more awesomeness. Uh enjoy a little inner saying, man, see your friends. If some one don't look at my son, do we flom everywhere? The window open them, keep your free rooms in until the same man you go sleep with lone man breathing your pillows, eyes said lights until night, say my rop the never never lay on something song something like maybe nothing to night and then hot of the wide the wall till the lives bring them back in the stile. And I think that was fall man sleep when ohne a man rimming a bell on nice said lie nice, rusten never never nice. Now don't save my soul, favorite, serve my die before before the rave, the word my soul to I still don't feel us And never mind that, don't you. It's just the beast and your bad in your closet, in your line Roston devil devil man that yeah, Yost. And now for all you paying subscribers, oh My Liberty Happiness presents our number two. Hey, we're getting overtime for this right all right, welcome back to the program. We are about to start our top ten and now your top ten for the week. Now, she's more like a five. All right. This week's top ten is top ten tick top ten TikTok celebrity. So these aren't the top ten, Okay, these are my like, these are the ones that I've stumbled upon their videos and I like these people. Why are you shaking your eards? It's funny because all your top tens are unique perspective. Top tens, Yeah they're not. They're like we should get we should have had. What do you give his top ten? Boy? Well, he can time in. It's a lot of talk. Yeah, he gave me a word limit per episode. All right, So number two, Actually, you're gonna have to tell me who these people are. Correct. Sometimes I don't know all right. So number ten, yeah, the rock star guy he is, it's he lip syncs uh animal videos. Dude. Now if it's the same ones that, it's like a black guy. Yeah, god, there, it's funny. He's one of my man. Have you seen the one where he's like cusses like I'm gonna come after you, the one that goes, I'm dead, I'm a lie, I'm dead. Oh my god. That dog is funny. He just cracks me up laugh every single time. So I'm curious to see how many we have in commons. Yeah. Uh. Number nine is the guy I couldn't tell you about last week that I couldn't remember, Patrick Bett David. How do you not know him? Would he? I don't know. We don't know handles. I don't read handles when I'm doing right. Well, his PbD is his podcast, and you said it was top five in the country. Oh yeah that guy. Oh yeah, I mean it's it's phenomenal. Like I promise you what he's messing with you or not? Oh no, he looked it up last week him right now, See I knew it. He was messing with you. It's like, oh yeah, no, I would say he's top five of Yeah. Oh, yes, I was not messing. Yes, you're al right. He's tops guy, wouldn't you say? Yeah? Because he's interviewed. God, he's interviewed a bunch of famous Oh he said, yes, and so Trent. I think if you look him up, I'm doing it right now as you're speaking. You recognize. Once you see well, you'll like him and you'll stop following me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that guy, all right, So bet David, though I don't either. I don't know that hyphen. I don't understand. I'm gonna say it's part Pakistani, always from Iran. Yeah, okay, I thought I was not far Yeah, okay, he's Persian. Terrific guy. Well, Jesus, will you pick one that that is person? I did all of them. It's the whole area. Sure, he's an emirate Mexican whatever. He's a Mexican. Oh God, that's hilarious. All right. Number eight, Yes, your guy, the forty year guy. He's in my list here. I can't get enough of that. I saw one to yesterday with trash cans, and I know the struggles. We have two trash cans, yeah, hauling them out to the road. One at a time, or trying to get both of them. Yeah, and he's got a hack for that. Yes, you can. You can hook them together and push one at one time. I mean they will both go. It's yeah, dude, I gotta see that. Yeah, you've got the hell we do Okay, we got to deal with Yeah, it's pretty neat. I have to check that out. Number seven, Yeah, is my pizza reviews with Dave Portnoy. All right, David's my favorite. Takes the one bite right, one bite all I need. Isn't that amazing? You could build a whole industry from just doing that, and it's made. He's also like made pizza shops because of his reviews. Yeah, like to mention the millions of dollars that he's given to those pizza places, yes, during COVID to keep them open. Like that's why the good the guy who got who came outside and was of that idiot what go back? Like he was an idiot and he told me to get off the property. It was get more exactly. Yeah, Dave said. The guy was trying to talk and he said take your Dave doesn't care. Yeah. Number six, Yeah, Luke McFadden don't know who that is. You probably wouldn't, but I think you would appreciate it. Luke McFadden is near the Baltimore area and he is a crab fisherman. Okay, but he's probably twenty two, twenty three, maybe even twenty one. But dude, he just he does videos and he just of him making it through life. Okay, but like working on his crab boat and just the stuff I have seen. I have seen that guy before. He has to he's great, yeah, and like he does this thing called kennet catch, and he just you can send him the suggestion and he'll put it in one of his cramp pots and it's gummy worms to whatever. He'll try it and he'll do his pot with with regular shrimp or whatever, and then whatever you suggest and he'll pull him up and compare them. I do like that guy that you meant, because I googled it. I remember seeing him always white. But he but he's not my algorithm. I haven't usually Usually you and I have the same pretty close algorithm. Within a day, we'll see each other. By the way, a friend of mine who loves the show sent me a clip for the show. No it was Biden in the pause. Did when did that hit the pause? You just yeah, I never heard it, and I just replied back, man, we just used that on the TIC on the show. I'm cutting it. That is wild. I've never even heard of it till you played it now twice in ten minutes because making Kelly funny enough. She just tweeted it after we did our clips. Did you say, tweeted it? Tweeted exit, tweeted it? All right, number five? This is my top five. Okay, what's up? Brother? Neither one of you that you know? What's up? Brother? Tuesday? Tuesday. I don't know any of this, no idea, and I don't even know. I want to. I don't want to know about Sketch. Oh, actually he's a really good guy. Dude. He did an interview with Theovaugh and you watched that. It's like, okay, exactly, No, No, he is a cool guy. But what's crazy is somebody has done a video of him. It's the real Vic Dibit. No, I can break that out and put in Sketch. Well I didn't. I mean, I'm texting the wrong thing. No, so, and I took the real out because I forgot that I left Sketch out people just heard before this show starts. You trying to tell Woody that you're going to clip number two is really clip three? Real? You got? The real one is too had the top ten. We don't know who the real number five is. So no, the real vic is funny. He's the one that is the northerner that does the His wife is uh storage in the attic. Yeah, no, the containers. She has all the containers and yeah, what did he goes? His wife was stored in the attic anyway? Yeah, but I inserted sketch over him. What a sketch sketches he's a gamer streamer, he's a but he have downs. I thought that, but I don't think so. I just googled it and I didn't want to click. He's got on the little spectrum. I don't know that would have him telling you it's a call on himself. He got he got brushed, miss me. No, it's all right. No is Richard Tyree and white people videos. If you haven't seen him, it is quite funny. He will show a video and then you won't see him, and then all of a sudden he'll come into camera and he'll go, come on, man and he'll do like just some sort of commentary over it, and he'll just send me one yeah with the lady that had the yellow tight Yes, yes, okay, I never saw that guy before, all right, so you'll like him. Number three is Ian Bick and he is a former prisoner. Okay, so he got arrested and went to prison when he was like eighteen nineteen years old for fraud. And he just he has prisoners that have gotten out on his show, and dude, the stories are so fascinating. But you'll like him. He's got and he just ate blue only ask questions that are great. Number two is bar seven Ranch. I that was probably the second or third person I ever started following on TikTok was the bar seven Ranch. It's just a dude that decided he wanted to be a farmer, and he takes you through his farming life and him and his wife and kids. And it's funny. Now show you watch like that? What's that show like? I think, secretly you want to be a farmer. I think so, I'd lot you like Yellowstone too. It's true. And my number one, mommy, are you there? You go? Besty? Yeah, she's so good. Yeah, we need to see if we can effort. I need to follow back up with her. Yeah all right, I'm telling you that's what I love about this TikTok community. I mean, if it's a real person, I mean, obviously, once you get to a certain level, I'm sure you get hounded and it's probably not even really your TikTok channel. Yeah all right. So I looked, and I guess you can look at your phone when you do this, but how many people do you follow on TikTok if you look at your profile? Do you know? I looked and I follow one hundred and thirty three. I was kind of shocked it with so many. Oh man, I was at one hundred and forty three. I think really, so I'm pretty close. I knew you would be I follow three. Hope, what did you say, I'm one thirty three. I'm one thirty five. You're such a dick. You are not one thirty five. You probably followed two while we were sitting here, just so you could see. I had to be one up. I have sixty one followers. Oh look, how many follow words do you have? I have to check on that. But because I'm I'm on my part of the show, so I have st two. I didn't go number one and number two. I just went through who I follow and like when I love my algorithm, when it like clicks on when someone's on, I've got to watch, and I probably I don't watch everything they produce, But dude, I keep mentioning this guy to y'all, and I hope he comes on the show. I haven't heard back from him. But the chubby beard bandit, that's the guy that follows what people cook. Yes, man, I'm telling you, he can come up with the best one liners. How nasty something is Chrissy Clark. Obviously I follow o hever for the show, but I mean she she was a good news person. Tyler Panell just believe I left him off. He's my one a who Tyler Tyler Panell? Yeah he was show. I mean he's kind of brand new to us. Yeah, and he's on the show. Ye all right, so we gotta were listening to him here in just a little bit. I love the forty year old guy. Yeah, are you kidding me? He just did something. Man. I was like you, I had no idea that that would work. Some of his stuff I don't think I would do because it seems like it takes longer to do it. Yeah, exactly, just the gimmick. Just do it the hard way out kicked sports is that I've got to get on that. That's a channel. That's great, man, you would love it. There's a guy that's on there that I absolutely hated as an announcer, but dude, I've gotten to what I really like him. I know what you're talking about too. I love the bald guy Gasic used to be used to play at Indiana then Dan Docket. Yeah, yeah, that guy's really good. And there's this guy that I keep wanting Woody to follow. I wish he would follow him. It's called Cancel this Clothing Company. Okay. The guy's name is Ian Carroll. He's on Twitter, but he's the one that has that hippie hair long mustache, and he tells you about fraud online now and the government fraud, like when the government is screwing people. And and he recently just said that he was going to quit doing TikTok, that he's going to X and so now I follow him as Ian Carroll on X and he's so good. I mean it's just news news type stuff. Uh do you follow the guy Ariel Hawane, the guy that does UFC fights. You would know who I'm talking about. He's that really skinny bald guy that does all the boxing matches. Now, he's kind of that internet report. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, a couple others. I like following this guy down to Morehead City. His name is griff Dog. He does all his you know what, he catches at Morehead City. He's a school teacher. And we rode on a boat and that's cool. That's it. Yeah, that's my list. All right. On the have that it. I just got three things to say. God, bless our troops, God bless America. Start God, all right for hav had it? Today we will have our interview that we did with Tyler Panell. For those of you don't know, Tyler is a TikTok celebrity that he does. He does a bunch of different videos, but I mean what I love about him is his weekly paint schemes that he does. He breaks down for NASCAR. Yeah, so all right, you're listening to Life, Liberty, Happiness, and now we're joined by Tyler Panell. He is, uh, in my view, a TikTok legend for me. I watch every week the paint scheme breakdown. So, Tyler, tell us a little bit about you. Where you're from and where you grew up. Well, I'm originally from upstate New York, little town by Syracuse, but when I graduated from high school, my family moved to Florida. So that's where i'm at now. Yeah. So have you always been a NASCAR fan or how did how did NASCAR kind of come about? It was since birth. My dad's a big fan. His dad was a big fan. Uh. I mean actually when I was in my mother's stomach, she actually they actually went to the uh the Daytona race, the first truck race at Daytona when Jeff Bodin went to the catch fence. Oh yeah, so so I guess that was my my first array in the race yet where I was even born. Tyler, this is Trent. I'll work with Brian here. The you mentioned upstate New York and your parents went down to Florida are the So were you guys Jeff Bodin fans? I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I mean, I don't know. My dad's always kind of been the type just like me where I want to say I really have like a favorite. I have a couple of guys that, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind if this guy wins. But it's more so like, you know, fuck this guy. I don't want him to win. Yeah, you know what's weird? Let me ask you this in that in that vein? Did you used to like? For me? I couldn't stand Kyle Busch. I hated him for twenty years, and now for some reason he switches cars and I kind of digging. Now, do you have anybody like that too? Well? Actually, yeah, same deal with that. I always wasn't much of a fan of Kyle Busch, but you know, he got screwed over by Joe Gibbs. That was a fucked up deal. Yeah, you know, you know, and he leaves Toyota, goes to a Chevy. All of a sudden, now everyone likes him. Yeah. So, so how did the how did the TikTok stuff come along? How did you get into all of that? Well, it really started as Yeah, I just kind of noticed that, like NASCAR kind of doesn't do a great job of really posting a lot of the stuff that goes on. You end up missing a lot of interviews, a lot of onboards and whatnot that you know, you scroll through Twitter all over the place, but a lot of the fan base is on Twitter, so it really started out as as just you know, oh, okay, this is a cool one. Like like, for example, the Corey la Joy on board. It took Fox. It took Fox, you know, ten minutes to even show replay Corey La Joy going sideways across the finish line. But Twitter has an on board cam of them in five minutes, you know, so it's like, you know, what are we doing. So it kind of started with that. And then I mean as far as like the paint scheme reviews go, I mean I had to give one credit to my girlfriend actually because she was never much of a race car fan, you know, but I mean, if you're with me, then you're gonna have to know a little something about it. And so I always kind of every week i'd say, hey, well, you know, let's look at the new paint schemes to see what you think. And she said, you know, you should really make this into a into a series. And I said, I don't know if people are gonna want to watch that, but I guess they do every window because like them to each other, like we still know we have the same algorithm, Like he might see it before I do, so we in boxing to each other just as soon as we see one of them. They're hilarious. Yeah, you know, I try. I'm just being me. Hey, when when when did you realize people started watching it? I mean, how did you know it started kind of taking off? Well, so I did a couple of them last year. I kind of did them on and off, and you know, I wasn't like as animated as I am now, so they didn't really do much. And then this season, my buddy was actually, you know, a couple of days before the five hundred, he said, hey, man, when are you gonna do your Paint Scheme review? I said, man, nobody watches that ship. I said, I'm not. I'm not even gonna bother dude. That takes so much time. What's the point. But then that's Saturday when the Infinity Race is supposed to go, and it got rained out. I was supposed to go that day and I wasn't doing nothing, so I said, you know what, whatever, I'll put one together. And it got like five hundred thousand views. So I said, well, I guess people want to see this. Oh man, I can't wait for it. Now. I must say that I have a favorite driver, and every week I'm always like, I hope he can get better scores. Now I have a driver that nobody likes. That's Joey Logana. Dude every day laugh when he does laugh. No, god, you know, I don't know. I don't even really mind Joey that much, but it's just I can't stand when he does those Infinity races. Yeah, oh god, he just spends the whole coverage just laughing the whole time. It really just turns me off to the guy. I literally chuckle every week because I've watched enough of them to know that's why you do it. But now you don't even say that's why you do it. You just do it. And I just can't wait for twenty two to show up and you go yeah six, yeah, five or six every week I know, And I'm just waiting for the chance that he gets a badass paint scheme where he can get over and he at least gets up to seven. Well maybe, well, I guess we'll see. How cool was it there when you've done some of this and you see like you do the mister busher thing and people on Twitter are making comments like that now, like you actually are having an influence on other people's tweets. Oh, I mean that's great. I mean I was freaking out when RFK they like my post, they commented, they followed, and then they're tweeting stuff out just like I don't even know what to say. I mean, that's just crazy. I'm just an asshole making some video. Hey, what do you do for a living? What are you doing in Florida. I'm actually a painter for the local school board here, so I just go around the school's paint walls, painting whatever needs to be painted, coming up with ideas for paint schemes. Yeah, no doubt that's awesome. Now, Brian probably doesn't know this, but I was going to ask you because one of the cool things I like about your tiktoks is you find clips like you you mentioned Lejoy and up on the side, and like that would have been I mean, it was almost the end of the race before Fox even noticed that he was up on the side, but you had the in car video of it. But on my way down here, I was listening to what you did with Eric Jones man, I crashed yesterday. Did you not have that eerie feeling? It was? I mean, and and and then they interview him and he acts like, no big deal, We'll just get dude. You got to listen to the end car. It was scary. Like Tyler posted that today and I was like, man, that is what you would have expected to hear. Where do you find it? Stuff? Uh, there's a guy on Twitter. I can't think of what his name is. I think it's Andrew Basso or Bosso or something. And he's I mean, all those in cars you can get right on the NASCAR app. You just have to be watching them, or you can go back through and you know he clips them or whatever. But he clips them and puts them up and I snag him and put him on TikTok. I don't have anybody. I just got to your hand was at NASCAR, Tyler. That's all I do. Now. I just wait for you to post. I'm glad. Well, I gotta know one thing, did you come up with the nickname fast Pasta? I did not come up with a common thing. I mean he actually has shirts and stuff to say fast Pasta on it. Yeah. I thought that was a like a known thing. But I guess not it is now what you said? Yeah, yeah, I guess so, I guess I made it a thing the man. Last week one of the things that made me laugh out loud was when I guess Denny Hamlin didn't have a paint scheme and he wasn't on NASCAR site, and you mentioned, so I'm just gonna comment on his face, and you gave him a four. Yes, that's awesome. Oh and then he said, then he talked about Chase Briscoe and he said, I really don't have anything to say about the car, but I heard his wife is pregnant, So congratulations on the sex. Well, well, Bubba's gonna get that treatment this week. His wife pregnant. Oh wow, to be ready for that. Yeah. Oh man, I get I get disappointed too because I guess which one you're going to make the car of the week, and I never get it right. But the one last week that I thought should have been the car of the week paint scheme was the one that won Tyler Reddick's car. It's Michael Jordan cars. Yeah. Those things look freaking awesome. Yeah that's pretty good looking. Yeah, look good winning. Yeah, man, that's true. All right, Well, we appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to talk with us today. One thing we always asked our guests is if you could pick anybody in history to hang out with for twenty four hours, who would it be and where would you hang out with them? Oh? Boy, loaded question, man, putting me on the spot on that one. Oh yeah, oh boy, huh. Let me say a funny one. I'd like to hang out with Brian France and at a bar so he used to throw down. He'd thrown down and then proceed to come up with some acidine idea to screw Nascar, I say, Brian France, Well, I appreciated, Tyler. Have a good week and we can't wait to hear your paint schemes this week around like a loose tubes? What are like the genters and the ice tray? Cairlline cavern. Man, we have had an action packed show, Kevin. You better bring in today, buddy, because man, has it been a busy show full of action? Hello? Oh man, it's like it's little cue. Hello. What are y'all doing? It sounds like you're spinning cotton. You mean, how many people would even know what that sounds like, what does a spinning cotton sound like? Like Trent's on the cotton gin and what you being in the cotton and you're peddling it and it's like all this commotion going on when I answered, and I'm like, what are they doing you? We were probably coming out of this is called professional by the way. We run a show here that you happen to be a part of, and we go in and out of breaks, and we were just on a telephone interview with a NASCAR paint scheme of guy who's on TikTok. So you're following up his interview. Well, my way ahead of all those people, just saying I'm not underneath. Kevin wasn't on our top ten list. He's Kevin doesn't even know what TikTok is, doesn't the sun. So, oh, congratulations to your boy. Oh by the way, yeah that's your Dylan. Was it Officer of the Year. Officer of the Year. How proud were you, Kevin of that? Oh, James Dylon, Yeah, it was a pretty good award to win Officer of the Year. That's congratulations, man, not bad at all. But let's go back to the what y'all were talking about earlier. Let's back to you. Yeah, he's act to Brian, he's the cotton Jenner. Yeah, tellingess he had more important other guests on before me than we're just now. And I guess the outhouse instead of the White House. When you listen to the show, like I'm sure you do every week, uh, you'll catch the interview we had with him. He's a pretty pretty funny dude. He breaks down paint schemes of all the NASCAR cars each week and it's, uh, it's pretty entertaining, unlike this interview. Well, I still got my stuff that I normally do for hav at it in cases doesn't work out, uh, Kevin. Oh, by the way, if I may complain, Okay, I texted Kevin this weekend and you I did not get a reply back from Kevin. I did get reply back from Brian on a separate text, but Kevin decided not to reply back to me. I'm trying to reach out to the man. And what was in your text. I was trying to brag on you. Josh Berry was leading the race and I was like, you predicted it. Hello, it's a different Kevin. No, I'm just I'm looking through and I don't see that text come through. It was to you and Brian. It was Sunday, Kevin. Oh, you mean a group text? Yes, not just myself. Correct. I don't answer group text if you can't. Okay, And you did that Sunday, Yes, okay, with let Brian and the rest of the thousands of people know on here what I text you happened? All right, so let's talk about it. Man, I was aware of this. Mom didn't tell me that you were involved in tornadic activities. So when Trence knows before he goes to saying, well, I texted you go on Sunday, but I got your message too that says you didn't have power starting on Friday at full thirty. So uh, let's think about that, your friend. Probably why because Kevin couldn't be watching the race watching. Oh calm Kevin, before you say any of that, if we should put all of our cards on the table, when would you have sent said text? Yes right before he gets on air? All right? When did you just comment on me not responding back? I could have prayed for you Sunday instead of asking you about Josh Barry. How was a tornado? What are were you at work? When this happened. Leaving work, I was on the tail end of the closer I got to York and my establishment here. I started saying, okay, now we just had something bad happened because number one, it went from eighty seven degrees to forty eight wowo. And so the hail that came and landed on the roads, it turned the ground area into an actual sauna. So the steam you couldn't see. It was like zero visibility falled, so you didn't know where you were traveling to. And the road that I live on the closer I got it was horrible, and so I had to stop and park my car at someone's house, walk a mile and a half home, and when I got here, the police would let you in because there was wires all over the yard. So I snuck around the back, come through the woods and got some clothes and I left, and then I went to a hotel stay. But it was pretty bad. It was over three hundred cars that was in a two mile stretch of High seventy seven that all the windshields got busted out of that didn't hurt this, so it'd be like driving down the road and you could see since you all are trying to educate me on social media as far as TikTok. Go on TikTok on your phones and you can punch in rock Hill storm and you'll see videos of people riding down seventy seven with three and a half to four inches of hail like it's snow on the roads and all the cars with the windshield busted out. So when did this take place? Sunday afternoon four forty eight? Saturday eight? Good lord? So you got to the hotel probably in time enough to see the end of the race, right, Well, he was that was Saturday. It was Saturday. They are homie slice, so you're trying to miss the wall. So what did you do all day Sunday? Just commiserate about the storm the day before? Well, the good Lord above, don't stop taking people home just because of storm hit. I gotta go to work. Ah. So that's so you didn't get to watch the race, is what you're telling us. Absolutely not? And I heard it was a great mm hm last last few last laps probably, But well, you and Brian were there last year, So why didn't you go back? Brown? I would never go. I'll go uh and I'll go too. But Kevin. What you wouldn't like about the race is they did this thing in the second stage, and the second stage was longer than the first days. First stage was okay, but the second stage was noticeable. And they kept showing the end car statistics and you would see the throttle was forty to sixty percent and they were just cruising along and it was like they let Nimachek j H Nimchek, they let him lead the race, and I'll bet you led thirty laps and they were the same mile per hour in the same positions, and they were four seconds slower than normal four seconds and it was like boring. And then it was like like I texted you guys, like there's no one passing from any lane, and they just rode around to try to save gas. Actually, Kyle Larson's crouchie if it was the first one that I heard say listen, man, we've saved enough gafs. Let's go. Yeah. And then McDowell kind of seemed to be the guy that broke that pattern. That's right, and got up front. But they were just a cruisinger. It was like literally fifteen to twenty miles an hour slower than normal, So Basically, you're referring to the race as if we went to a go cart track and that they're all the same and we just rode around just yel yeah, but not even racing each other. Just just saved gas half throng because the calculation shows you should say gas. I've got a clip of Kyle Busch talking about it and how he embarrassed. It was that crazy year that they had those cars the same and all it was was two car tandem running around the whole race. At least that was Yeah, they would go wide open at least there was, and you'd see somebody bump somebody and making up a little bit. Yeah, but this this wasn't even that. They really weren't even bumping each other. It was not good. They gotta do something different. They rode around. It was not But now if they raced like they did the last ten lamps, where you got a guy going from the front lane to the you know, that's the way Atlanta was, that would be exciting, but it was noticeable. Yeah. What about if they raced like fifteen years ago, that would be much better. Yeah. I don't know what the fix is. That's the problem. It's yeah, I know, I mean unless they do something with another stage like in between, because what they were doing was for fuel mileage, So if you could figure out how to make it a fact. Don't you remember they cut the tanks one year, Yeah, when they made them do more pit star. Yeah, it's gonna have to be something like that because whatever math, they all agreed and all the engineers agreed, so that meant all the teams agreed. That's something that Kevin Harvick told me that I didn't know about. Did you remember hearing him talk about the war room? No? All right, so they talk about the data that they see, right, Yeah, somebody's half throttle and things like that. So apparently there are engineers in a war room at Hendrick Motorsports that is taking all of this data and analyzing it and sending it to the pit crew. So we do have a bunch of engineers now running all of this stuff. That's why Kyle Larson asked, how is my fuel mileage compared to the people behind me? Like he really cared. You know, he seems to be that smart driver. Yeah, that he really cared. He wanted to know because he didn't want to keep riding like he was riding. So yes, it has turned into that you have people in a room running real data stuff. Man, like I texted you and Brad. Do you think Jimmy um sure would have listened to that ever, Hell no, he would have. He would have done what what's his name did? Went up front and right, Yeah, but it'd had taken out the field. Yeah. Uh. Anyway there at Dover this week, you got any uh, any hot picks that uh you're gonna give us? Well, I think Trent's man, Kyle Larson will probably be up there again. I don't know he is. So he pushes it so hard that that's one place that you can't I mean, one screw up and you're gonna hit the inside wall, not the outside wall. And he know, he reminds me of Tony Stewart mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I could see a little bit. Was the same way he would drive the car, and he pushed it until the limit that he ended up stepping over it. He ended up being his own I guess, yeah, take taking itself out of the race, but pushing the envelope. But patience is what wins races. And when I say that Jimmy Johnson had patience, you know it's gonna be exciting. When you do have patience, then you tend to not push the envelope or uh your methodically winning races being lethargic around the track versus if you were like this conversation rowdy rowdy, he just goes out and just drives, you know, which he sometimes that's the way that he wins races is being aggressive. But well, I'm very excited because I saw Kyle Larson was the second fastest Indy car driver at Indianapolis. I mean, how cool is that? I mean he's doing twenty three practice maybe to twenty eight for a guy that hasn't driven one of those things. All right, Well, when can we start talking about Jimmy Johnson? I mean, is that not gonna become a topic about what Trent? He was horrible in Indie and he comes back to NASCAR and he can't even complete a lap. Well, nobody's talking about. To be fair, they changed the car on him from the time he left. Okay, I'm not denying that, but yeah, you can't even It's not like he's driving Rick Hendrick. You're seven time champion, yeah, and you can't make line. No, but you can't make an eighty five year old man get on a computer and do what we do. He's eighty five. This is a comparison I'm saying when you have older people stuck in their ways. What I was saying was is like, you can't take an older person and put them on a computer and say, hey, start using it. Well, you can't take a driver like Jimmy Johnson that drove NASCAR and cars that were literally built from the chassis up and didn't have a lot of data that's coming from computers. When you change all that and go from that to what they're trying to do in the next five years to electric cars, you're not going to be that driver that's gonna be educated enough to understand the data and understand what the car can do. Dale Earnhardt Jr. I mean Dale Earnhardt Sung Senior could not right now, this day in time, step out of a car that he drove and stepped into one of the cars today and do what he did back when he was driving regular gasoline full borrow modified cars. Wait, they even shift differently, just just crazy. Okay, gosh sakes, It took him ten years to even put on the Hans device when they developed it. He didn't even want to wear it. We're talking about Jimmy Johnson, not earn hard. Listen, I don't You're not going to put Kyle Larson in that forty two or forty three car and win. He's not even making He didn't even make Las. Indeed, you just can't compare him freaking just riding around the track at the end. That's a huge difference. I give him the dude a huge compliment for trying to go do it. I mean that that wasn't even his forte He wasn't like Tony Stewart that grew up doing that. He wasn't like Kyl Lawson. Well, I mean, Kyle Larson drives open wheels every freaking weekend. I mean, what's the name. I guess he did. Dune bugis out in California. I just thought, I mean, I think he expected too much from Jimmy Johnson in an Indy car. If you thought he was going to be up there at the front. No, I thought he would have a good Indie career. But I guess what I'm saying for me, it shocked me when he came back and he's had so much trouble. Not he I mean, he didn't even make the time. He had to use a provisional Daytona just to get in the race and may pretty much take everybody. Yeah, but he's not driving for Rick Hendrick anymore. It's his own car, right, and he the Legacy motor, he's the forty two and forty three. Yeah, they're not doing they're not hitting on much. I know that, and that's I'm just saying. I can't believe nobody's but I guess maybe I'm the only person that thinks it's odd that Jimmy Johnson can't turn a lap the hesin Carl Edwards lately. It looks like he did when he was driving the car. It's crazy. Well, I'm on the side of the fence because if you're gonna compare him about as bad he's doing, what about Joey Lagano wins the last time he want to race? Oh, for God's sakes, asking a question, you're I mean, that's an asinine question to compare Jimmy Johnson to Joey Logano. Doesn't he have like the longest Strea or Keselowski? Which one has the longest non winning streak right now? Do we just won a championship two years ago. Of the winners, I'm saying that, like the anyway, I think he's one of them. He's got like a long two year streak or something not winning. Am I wrong on that? Yes, you're wrong on that. No, you're not sure. Maybe it's Super Speedways, you idiots. He won races last year. Okay, that's negative, ghost Rider. The pattern is you're both idiots. Maybe he was Super Speedilies. I thought I saw that he had like the longest, one of the longest streaks of not winning. Bryan saying that Jimmy Johnson can't complete the lap up. Joel Logano came neither, Lord grant it. Woody back over there in the corner to look it up. I'm looking as we speak. Dude, Am I right on this stat? Jesus? He won that. Martin Truex has never won a Super Speedway race. I think that's right. Isn't that wild? He's a points champion? Well, I'll tell you what's wild is again Kevin Harvick pulling back the curtain. How about him talking about we have sim drivers? Now, what do you mean? So the companies now hire sim drivers like will like William Byron was yeah, so no, Like, instead of these drivers having to spend so much time in a simulator, they've now hired a simulate drive that does all the research for them, and then they only do they do less time in the simulator because they have a specific driver that runs the simulator for them. Wow. Is that like rooming somebody to be a driver in the future. I think so wow, because he said, oh yeah, that's the Hendrick sim driver and I'm like, what, And that's who's taking Eric Jones's place this week? Is their sim driver? Oh wow, that's crazy, Kevin. Did you not a card driver but a sim driver? Did you plant your garden? Was it beaten by Hale? Oh? Yeah, good question. I did play my garden, and yes it was beaten by Hale. That's why I said, wait till May tenth. But it doesn't. It didn't happen because of a frost Well we almost had a wait. Did have a frost advisory here this morning? Or was that yesterday? Joey Logan Atlanta? Mm hmm, yep, Trent, I live in South Carolina. You live in Virginia, true, Atlanta winter. I swear I thought I saw him with a long streak of not winning. Yeh, rand Oh, well, but you were correct about Keselowski he had one and since coming to RFK. Yeah, mister Busher has who uh who wins this week? Kevin? Did you say Larson? Yeah? Oh, come on, I think it's Josh Berry, although I mean, is there is host just just trying to be bad or I mean, what's going on there? I haven't done Jack, They're back. There was Jimmy Johnson. They are, No, they are. I'm wondering if it's just the manufacturers now just it's pretty much Hendrick and for Ford it's Penske and then j g R for for Toy. Well if you don't, if you don't think it's not the driver, then you're perspecting that it's reagged. No, I'm perspecting we're right back to where we were before. The teams with the most money are the ones that are finding the shortcuts to win. You know what I thought? What I thought this weekend? We had track House two years ago that came out of nowhere. Ye put flut fighting against the big boys. Dude. I give a lot of credit to Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin. Yeah, those guys are moving on up. I mean I've been a little bit shocked. I mean, Bubba Wallace, to his credit, has been up there now he wrecks, but I mean he's definitely up there where he was before. Yeah, he got caught up in somebody else's mess this week. Yeah, I still don't know what he meant by that. I think I think he thinks that he got bumped into Eric Jones, that somehow he was just along for the ride. But to me, it looked like he's the one that wrecked that rap. Uh. He was just upset and jealous because he ain't want to raise shit in his co driver partner won and he was he wanted to be the first one to win for Michael Jordan and that didn't happen. So that's gotta throw your ego off just a little bit. I did notice in the Winter Circle that Bush was there. They don't really talk about him much anymore, Kurt Kurt, Yeah, he was in the background. He is a consultant. Yeah, people don't people talk about I mean he hears them talk about him. Yeah, all right, Well, what's the word of the day. Oh, it's fitting potato, Potatoto potatoes. Yeah, potato, all right, I tell Brian trent woodye when to play a god? Who to bet on races? Football, baseball? But they Potato know what they I'm talking about? They just say it. Whatever, Kevin, we got a quick to the lo today, But what do you mean, Potato? But like they don't pay attention, but they don't. Yeah, whatever I got you do you want to hear something I didn't do today? That's pretty funny though I can't believe it was not on our show. What we had a listener send me a Mimi and I was like, well, you know that's going to be on the show. And he's like, damn right. We totally skipped the whole news about the cannibal discussion. Yes, all right, so let what do do you have? Cut thirty? Can you find cut thirty? All right, so we're gonna do cut thirty and then thirty one. So let's do cut thirty. And my uncle they called him Ambrose Brosie, they called him my uncle Bosey. It's a hell an athlete, they tell me. When he was a kid and he became an Army Air Corps before the Air Force came home. He flew those single engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones. He got shot down in New Guinea and they never found the body because there used to be there are a lot of cannibals for real in that part of New Guinea. And then okay, okay, he was shot down for real. Know he wasn't shot down. No, he just crashed the plane in the Pacific. Yes, and he wasn't found correct, But it wasn't cannibals, Nope, none nowhere ran. This is what drives me nuts. Peter Doocey called it out. That's next, That's the next clip here. At least Peter Doocey is the one person that I see that asks the question which you can't because listen to our answerer is Corbett to thirty one, Lieutenant Ambrose Jay Finnigan was a war hero. But the Pentagon says, for unknown reasons, uh, the plane was forced to ditching the ocean. Both engines failed at low altitude. Why is President Biden saying he was shot down? There's no evidence of that, And why is he saying that his uncle was eaten by cannibals. That's a bad way to go. He lost his life. It's not Look, I'm not we should not make jokes about it. I mean, your your last line. It's for a laugh, it's for a funny, a funny statement. And he takes this very seriously. His uncle, who served and protected this country lost his life, and that should matter. You have a president that lifts up our US troops are American veterans every day, who thinks about them, who actually thinks they're all heroes and they are. And you have a former president who disrespects that, who doesn't honor that as president suckers or losers. God, I hate that they're allowed to God, speaking of that, Yeah, I forgot this one. Wuddy. Yeah, let's see if I can play this just cut for the real this is the real one. Are you ready to choose freedom over democracy? Because that's America over He literally says, we choose freedom over democracy. You're gonna have to cut that in. We choose truth over facts. We choose freedom over democracy. Not an idiot, not the whole pause that. I cannot wait to go home. Oh, on my way home, I'm going to replay that clip just to hear that again. Speaking of that, you know when you leave out of here, yeah, and you get to the four way stop. Yeah, if you go straight and cares it's along with them thee huh. If you just go straight, you take a left to go up to the light and then go Yeah, if you just keep straight, Oh, it's pass. I like going buy bills and send oh ladies. But you still go to bills because you come to the full way stop. Oh, you don't mean the four way stop right here at the railroad station. You mean go left it towards bills. You're going to bills. I'm going to cross the railroad if you pass, be okay, there's a stop there, full way stop, actually three way, three way t okay, straight, okay. It carries you to Longwood Avenue. I didn't know that you cut out? Is that the cemetery? No, I didn't do that, but it's but it just comes out right along. Okay, I'll try that. Do you know what? How we're in the show? Oh, did you want to do your weight loss? Oh I'm stuck. I'm stuck on sixty. Well better than yeah, not, I'm gonna up my dosage, gotcha, I'm gonna do it. So how are we in the show today? The whole clip to eighty? How about that? Would he thought you had to get to one hundred before June something. I do want to get to that. Okay, I think I will. I still think I will. No, I was talking about dosage. I'm up at fifty units. I might go to eighty. Just jump it, just walk around, puke and that's a good way to lose weight. Blieve it. I'll do it is a blaem it er intrixic. Believe it. If you make yourself throw up, we'll go believe it. If you want to throw up, go back and watch it, Ring baby ring Dear. So, y'all, I watched all right, y'all would think I'm a nerd though, real quick. First of all that stuff on Amazon, the New Fallout You need y'all need to watch that. That's a great show. It's it's based off video game, but it's really good. Yeah, it's really good. Though. I know what you're thinking, but give it. Go watch the first episode and tell me what you think. You like. The movie Mortal Kombat. It's so god, it's so it's so good. It's so good. It's so good. It's it's yeah, it's like Star trek neat Star Wars. It's like a life god Man, that's like poorn man. That's like good, you know, it's like there's there's a you just gotta watch. I don't want to watch it. Watch give it one episode. It's him what you think? So how we in the show today? Is just one of those clips that I got off TikTok spock was an affair with Princess later. Oh if you blow them eye over here. Sorry. It's one of the historical things about what I cannot stand is how the media took a narrative of something and we took Aunt Jemima off of our syrup. This is the story about the real Aunt Jemima and why she was a hero. Oh great, so see you next week. A great woman erased from history by idiots. The branding of the syrup was a tribute to this woman's gifts and talents. Now future generations will not even know this beautiful woman existed. What a shame. The world knew her as Aunt Jemima, but her given name was Nancy Green, and she was a true American success story. She was born a slave in eighteen thirty four in Montgomery County, k Y. And became a wealthy superstar in the advertising world as its first living trademark. Green was fifty six years old when she was selected as the spokesperson for a new, ready mixed, self rising pancake flower and made her debut in eighteen ninety three at a fair and exposition in Chicago. She demonstrated the pancake mix and served thousands of pancakes and became an immediate star. She was a good storyteller, her personality was warm and appealing, and her showmanship was exceptional. Her exhibition booth drew so many people that special security personnel were assigned to keep the crowds moving. Nancy Green was signed to a lifetime contract, traveled on promotional tours all over the country, and was extremely well paid. Her financial freedom and stature as a national spokesperson enabled her to become a leading advocate against poverty and in favor of equal rights for all Americans. She maintained her job until her death in nineteen twenty three at age eighty nine. This was a remarkable woman, and sadly she has been erased by politics. I wanted you to know and remind you in this cancel culture time period,
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